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This is a discussion on Perception vs Judgment Function within the Cognitive Functions forums, part of the Personality Type Forums category; Originally Posted by simulatedworld Jung observed two types of general cognition: Perception (taking in information) and Judgment (making decisions/evaluating it.) ...

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    ESTJ - The Guardians

    Perception vs Judgment Function

    Quote Originally Posted by simulatedworld View Post
    Jung observed two types of general cognition: Perception (taking in information) and Judgment (making decisions/evaluating it.)

    He said that there are two styles of Perception: Sensing (which deals with immediate, concrete, tangible sensory impressions) and iNtuition (which deals with abstract patterns and relationships between things or ideas, and other non-tangible information.)

    There are also two styles of Judgment: Thinking (which deals with impersonal logic and structure) and Feeling (which deals with personal/interpersonal ethics and morality.)
    So in every person, he or she has one dominant function, Perception function or Judgment function.

    My question is:
    What is the significant difference between a person with dominant Perception function (ExxP or IxxJ) with a person with dominant Judgment function (ExxJ or IxxP)?
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    INFP - The Idealists

    (Currently dating an INFP with unknown Enneagram)
    I hope for you this will work, according to some theory its the best combination xD


    For your question, I dont understand really what you want to know, perhaps you should reformulate ?
    In addition Im not on the same line than you cause I think perception dom are more P personality, even if introvert.



    Perhaps this can help you on imagining how it work :


    Generally,
    Introverted function is associated with reflecting "whats the meaning" of one particular external object for the function user : for you for example, with Si second, you should be attuned to taste, color, music, you are aware of how taste , smell things. You take a particular taste and sense the stuff bodily.


    extroverted function : hate to reflect personnaly on external object, but always need to amass some external information.
    For example, Se will always try to remove personnal interpretation of external object in order to get always more external information. Contrast with Si and you will see a bit !


    With J function, its the same things that previous, but concentrated on the judgment on info.


    In a nutshell introvert interpret 1 particular external info ("reflect on this"), extrovert remove interpretation and want to get more.
    hope this help you to figure how can be a introverted first and extroverted first , and to figure their difference.

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    ESTJ - The Guardians

    Quote Originally Posted by no_id View Post
    For your question, I dont understand really what you want to know, perhaps you should reformulate ?
    In addition Im not on the same line than you cause I think perception dom are more P personality, even if introvert.
    With J function, its the same things that previous, but concentrated on the judgment on info.
    *sigh*
    I have quoted post by simulatedworld. Have you read it?

    Sensing (S) and iNtuition (N) are both Perception functions. These functions are dominant function for ExxP (Ne and Se) and also for IxxJ (Ni and Si).

    Thinking (T) and Feeling (F) are both Judgment functions. These functions are dominant function for ExxJ (Te and Fe) and also IxxP (Ti and Fi).

    What I'm asking about is the difference between
    dominant Perception function (ExxP or IxxJ) with dominant Judgment function (ExxJ or IxxP).
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    INTJ - The Scientists

    I think I understand what you're asking. How does a Pe/Pi-dom perceive or interact with the world differently than an Je/Ji-dom? Honestly, I can't tell you. Obviously everyone takes in information and reacts to situations. But how does the way a person do that relate to their functions?

    Pe-Ji (ExxP)
    Pi-Je (IxxJ)
    Je-Pi (ExxJ)
    Ji-Pe (IxxP)
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    INFP - The Idealists

    Dominant perception are more go with the flow , more labil , while dominant judgement are more scheduled , more rigid...
    Dominant perception do things according to their mood, dominant judgement do things following their judgement...
    Dominant perception : enneagram 7 (Se,Ne) 9 (Si) 4 (Ni) most likely , dominant judgement : 1 (?) , 6 (Fi) , 3 (Fe) most likely...

    Its only general trait...
    Comparing with other personnality trait, this have nothing to do with openness to experience for ex. JiNe tend to be more curious that SiJe for ex. Win on openness to experience is symbolized by Ne and Se dom, while Ni and Si appear sometime stubborn about the new (on the contrary to a Ji dom, its not that they fear the new : its just that they dont need it).
    Try to understand the P function inside you and you will have an image of how can work P dom ;)

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    INTJ - The Scientists

    Quote Originally Posted by WickedQueen View Post
    What I'm asking about is the difference between dominant Perception function (ExxP or IxxJ) with dominant Judgment function (ExxJ or IxxP).
    My understanding of functions is, the dominant one determines our goal, while the auxiliary is the tool we use to reach this goal. A P-function dominant will want to experience/understand the world, while a J-function dominant will be driven to make an impact on the world.

    So if we take INTJ and ENTJ as an example, with the metaphor of Ni as a map (imo it's the most accurate analogy for this function) and Te as a vehicle :

    An INTJ's driving force in life will be to expand and fill his Ni-map, and he will use Te as a tool to navigate the map and go to new places so he can cartography them.
    An ENTJ, on the other hand, will be primarily interested in going to places, and his Ni-map will merely be a tool to determine where is it that he needs to go and how to get there.
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    INFP - The Idealists

    My understanding of functions is, the dominant one determines our goal, while the auxiliary is the tool we use to reach this goal. A P-function dominant will want to experience/understand the world, while a J-function dominant will be driven to make an impact on the world.
    this

    for the rest IDK

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    ESTJ - The Guardians

    Quote Originally Posted by Paradigm View Post
    I think I understand what you're asking. How does a Pe/Pi-dom perceive or interact with the world differently than an Je/Ji-dom?

    Pe-Ji (ExxP)
    Pi-Je (IxxJ)
    Je-Pi (ExxJ)
    Ji-Pe (IxxP)
    Yes, that's what I mean. Thank you.

    Quote Originally Posted by Blast22 View Post
    My understanding of functions is, the dominant one determines our goal, while the auxiliary is the tool we use to reach this goal. A P-function dominant will want to experience/understand the world, while a J-function dominant will be driven to make an impact on the world.
    How did you came up with this conclusion? Is there any source that explain about it?

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    INTJ - The Scientists

    Quote Originally Posted by WickedQueen View Post
    How did you came up with this conclusion? Is there any source that explain about it?
    It's not an "official" theory (or if it is I haven't heard of it), it's just the way I understand this difference based on my introspection and observation of/comparison with other types.
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    INFP - The Idealists

    I wouldn't group people by P-dom or J-dom because IPs will often seem to be "milder" versions of their EP counterparts & same for IJs & EJs. This is why Pi-dom are called Js in MBTI & Ji-dom Ps, because of how the deal with the external world.

    I think @Blast22 explained the subtle difference in how a Je-dom & Je-aux would think. A Je-dom & Ji-dom are going to be quite different though.


 
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