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This is a discussion on Sherlock Holmes and Dr. John Watson within the Guess the type forums, part of the What's my personality type? category; Well to be honest, when I watched the most recent I for sure felt as if they based his character ...

  1. #31
    INTP - The Thinkers

    Well to be honest, when I watched the most recent I for sure felt as if they based his character on a standard MBTI INTP description. Like just straight up--not even anything else. Which was honestly almost dishonest to the type, but whatevz.

    It was still fun for me to watch a text book INTP parade around the screen dodging giant scary men from 300.

  2. #32
    Unknown Personality

    For an example of ISTP versus INTP detectives, look no further than Sherlock's older brother Mycroft Holmes, a very probable INTP. Mycroft is described even by Sherlock as having even greater deductive powers than himself, but he never bothers to explain why he's right. He doesn't do any of the legwork to uncover new facts about a case, but instead prefers to have people bring him the evidence. With even the barest facts he can come to a conclusion where Sherlock cannot but is dismissed because his conclusions aren't practical. Listen to Sherlock's description of him:

    ...he has no ambition and no energy. He will not even go out of his way to verify his own solutions, and would rather be considered wrong than take the trouble to prove himself right. Again and again I have taken a problem to him, and have received an explanation which has afterwards proved to be the correct one. And yet he was absolutely incapable of working out the practical points...
    This is clear example of a Sensor being annoyed by an iNtuitor's methods and impracticality. At the start of a case, Sherlock will present Mycroft with the facts he has at the time, Mycroft will then solve it. Sherlock will be skeptical without any practical reasoning from Mycroft, but after he does his thing and figures things out like an ISTP would he is surprised to find that Mycroft was right all along.

    Further:

    While he does occasionally exert himself in these stories on the behalf of his brother, he on the whole remains a sedentary problem-solver, providing solutions based on seemingly no evidence and trusting Sherlock to handle any of the practical details. In fact, Mycroft's own lack of practicality is a severe handicap despite his deductive talents: in "The Greek Interpreter", his blundering approach to the case nearly costs the client his life.
    The conclusions of every department are passed to him, and he is the central exchange, the clearinghouse, which makes out the balance. All other men are specialists, but his specialism is omniscience.
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  3. #33
    INTP - The Thinkers

    yes, always keep in mind that he is fictional and as such will have traits that can be all over the place. for instance an intp would not be as observant as he is, noticing clues and ticks instantly and accurately, that is the least typical trait for intps. movie sherlock holmes is definitely Se in that regard (if i understand that function correctly).
    but there's not denying that he has some mannerisms that can be attributed to an intp, especially in relation to watson, where he is seen as quite silly and quirky.

  4. #34
    INTP - The Thinkers

    He was based on a real person....

    Break it down for each scale. There is no way the Sherlock Holmes is an E anything. He has no social skills, and more importantly, no desire to have social skills. He eschews all company except for Watson and generally prefers to be alone.

    The S/J is debatable, and while he attention to detail suggests S, his ability to work through complex theories speaks of an N. It's probable that he's only a slight S, and not very strong into that area.

    Definitely a T, hands down, no questions asked.

    I also think that with the lack of organization and general disregard for order, he's a P.

  5. #35
    Unknown Personality

    He couldn't be further from an N if he looked up N's coordinates on Google Earth and found its exact antipode and then lived there long enough to create a rocket ship and spent the rest of his life blazing across space at warp nine. Theories aren't inherently N. It's all in how you formulate and use them. I explained this upthread. His theories aren't even complex. It's pretty ordinary, linear concrete thinking. Hell, his Se kicks most ESTPs' asses. His Si is fairly strong as well. Consider this quote from Holmes from one of the stories and which was also used in the film:

    I never guess. It is a capital mistake to theorize before one has data. Insensibly one begins to twist facts to suit theories, instead of theories to suit facts.
    While this is sage advice and it undoubtedly comes in handy in his field, no N would be this hostile to theories. Any N will have at least one theory at all stages of the case and would probably revolve the investigation around them. He wouldn't be able to help it. I'm not saying an N would want to twist facts to suit theories, but it's almost as if he makes it a point to attack Ns specifically.
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  6. #36
    INTP - The Thinkers

    Calm yourself down. It's a purely theoretical discussion.

  7. #37
    Unknown Personality

    I don't know why you'd think I'm not calm, but I am enjoying the discussion. In fact, I'd love to continue the discussion rather than have orders viciously barked at me.
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  8. #38
    INTP - The Thinkers

    Your definition of vicious is not my definition, clearly. I found your analogy to be extreme, and in my experience (which is not absolute) people using extreme examples have forsaken logical argument and are relying on emotional reason.

  9. #39
    Unknown Personality

    It's not fun having someone on the internet accuse you of emotions you're not expressing, is it? I fail to see how my examples are in any way extreme or emotional pleas, when they are pretty clear and reasoned-out. Maybe you could provide evidence to support your supposition for a change and I can see what a perfectly logical argument looks like to you?

    Edit: See my post up at #8 for more of my reasoning. I'm not sure if you only saw my #11. The earlier post explains why I believe his deduction and theories more fit with Ti than Ne or Ni, and why I say his Se is so strong. My #14 is really an addendum to that post, as well as an explanation of his overall Sensor-like attitude.
    Last edited by Antagonist; 04-05-2010 at 05:31 PM.
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  10. #40
    INFP - The Idealists


    Quote Originally Posted by messy1 View Post
    I was wondering after thinking about Sherlock Holmes and the way he does things, he could be an INTP. Could he be?
    Of course he could... prolly was.... or intj.


 

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