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This is a discussion on ISFJ and mental disorders within the ISFJ Forum - The Nurturers forums, part of the SJ's Temperament Forum- The Overseers category; Is it possible to have Attention Deficit Disorder and Asperger's if you're an ISFJ? I've read that it's really, really ...

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    ISFJ - The Nurturers

    ISFJ and mental disorders

    Is it possible to have Attention Deficit Disorder and Asperger's if you're an ISFJ?

    I've read that it's really, really uncommon to have ADD if you're an SJ of any kind, since that flightiness of attention runs counter to the nature of that set of characteristics. And I've also read that because ISFJs (and similar types) use Extraverted Feeling, they can't have Asperger's (plus the grand majority of self-declared cases online are Ns).

    But like...I've been diagnosed with both of these. And I highly doubt that I'm not ISFJ, since the description fits me better than any other.

    I don't really know where I'm going with this. Anyone else go against the stereotype? Any other ISFJs been diagnosed with these seemingly-contradictory things? Or other mental disorders?



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    ISFJ - The Nurturers

    I'm pretty sure an ISFJ could have both of these. Hopefully your Fe-ness might help you to compensate for some of the symptoms of Asperger's better than other types would, though. It is true that some of the descriptions seem to imply that Fe helps you to be able to read people well. I really am not sure that that is true, because I am not great at reading people and understanding some of their motivations. But other descriptions focus more on wanting to maintain harmony, caring about other's feelings, and making decisions based on how other people would feel.

    I don't think ADD/ADHD actually implies you are flighty (or unreliable), just that you have trouble paying attention. If you still do a lot of things that the Si-user does (like looking to past experiences to help you solve problems, or using familiar methods to approach situations), then you can still be an Si user.
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    ISFJ - The Nurturers

    I have grown up with AD/HD ever since I was in pre-school. Based on my own research and feedback from other people who know jungian cognitive functions well, I am fairly confident I have typed myself properly. It is my understanding that AD/HD does not immediately make you a perceiver.

    I have some Asperger tendencies myself as well. In fact, doctors thought I once had Aspergers, but I didn't fit enough criteria. I imagine disorders in introverts like ISFJs make them very risk averse and distrustful of other people. I remember bitching about being forced to do things I didn't feel comfortable doing. When I was little, I had trouble with using language. I wanted to connect with other people, but found it so frustrating, I wrecked other people's things and made a lot of impulsive, self-centered decisions. It was a combination of my own actions and other people's consistent reactions to me that made me conclude that I am unique, but too defective to cooperate with others. I still think I'm sort of defective.

    Since I didn't really like other people, I became more of a thing person (hence my avatar) and I became known in grade school as the kid who liked trains and airplanes.

    It's important to note that most ISFJ profiles I think overemphasize the Fe-part, putting the stereotype on ISFJs as everpresent, selfless caretakers. ISXJs are all about finding a niche in their life and sticking with it. Where you have EXXPs that like pushing themselves out of their comfort zone, ISXJs are known as people who stay within their comfort zone, but make it strong. Ideally, many ISFJs that acknowledge the risks of holding obligations early on and find a strong sense of comfort in that and do end up as a nurturer of some kind. Unfortunately--but perhaps fortunately in some ways--I did not do that. The truth is, there are all sorts of ISFJ types--just like the acronym INFP depicts hundreds of different personas--and they very based on their particular life experiences. What an ISFJ does ends up defining who the ISFJ is.
    Last edited by HandiAce; 01-25-2012 at 11:17 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HandiAce View Post
    ISXJs are all about finding a niche in their life and sticking with it.
    I like this description - I think people underestimate how the e4 profile (Or maybe the rammifications of it is a better way to put it) can fit us (though e4 is only one take on this), and over apply e1 and e2 because of the overemphasis on Fe, with 6 being a believable neutralground as it is pretty SJ.

    I can have bad attention at times - I'm impulsive with it, not to the extent than it's a disorder, to the extent that I don't think you have to have a disorder to be an ISFJ with imperfect focusing abilities. Where do you draw a line and say 'Okay this is too much flightiness of attention for this person to be an ISFJ, this flightiness is distinctly not-ISFJ'
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    ISTJ - The Duty Fulfillers

    My wife typed herself ISFJ and it seems to fit, she's also been diagnosed with ADHD and PTSD. We've been married 10 years and honestly it's been a struggle at times but she's a wonderful mother to our four year old son.


 

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