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    INFP - The Idealists

    What am I? Ti - Te - Ne - Si - Fi - Ni - Se - Fe

    When I first discovered MBTI tests, I took a test that calculated your preferred order of cognitive functions, and typed you accordingly to your preferred order. That test, found here, typed me as either INTP, or ISTJ. After reading several descriptions of ISTJ, it just isn't me at all, i cannot identify with ISTJ. However, I've always thought I could be INTP, so after reading thorough descriptions of INTP, it left me confused, because I identify wholly with the INTP description, as well as INTJ. However I almost always test as INTJ.

    That particular test, I've posted about it in a few other places here on the forums, really confused me. According to that test, my highest functions are as follows:

    Ti = 45.4%
    Te = 42.7%
    Ne = 38.3%
    Si = 35.4%
    Fi = 34.9%
    Ni = 33.4%
    Se = 7%
    Fe = 3.1%

    Ti Te Ne Si Fi Ni Se Fe

    If there is any validity to those results, I'm not quite sure what that means I would be. I get INTJ about 90% of the time, but have gotten INTP a few times, and ISTJ once.

    So if that is correct, and from what I've read on the individual functions, I'd say it is, or pretty close in the least, what would that type me as regarding MBTI?
    Last edited by Infrared; 11-13-2010 at 05:21 PM.



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    INTJ - The Scientists


    INTJ - Ni Te Fi Se
    INTP - Ti Ne Si Fe
    ISTJ - Si Te Fi Ne

    Based on the order of the functions listed, I doubt INTJ. Maybe INTP?

    edit: But those first 6 functions are in close proximity, so I honestly don't know what to tell you except research functions more.
    Last edited by TheWaffle; 11-13-2010 at 08:48 PM.
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    INTP - The Thinkers

    Quote Originally Posted by Infrared View Post
    When I first discovered MBTI tests, I took a test that calculated your preferred order of cognitive functions, and typed you accordingly to your preferred order. That test, found here, typed me as either INTP, or ISTJ. After reading several descriptions of ISTJ, it just isn't me at all, i cannot identify with ISTJ. However, I've always thought I could be INTP, so after reading thorough descriptions of INTP, it left me confused, because I identify wholly with the INTP description, as well as INTJ. However I almost always test as INTJ.

    That particular test, I've posted about it in a few other places here on the forums, really confused me. According to that test, my highest functions are as follows:

    Ti = 45.4%
    Te = 42.7%
    Ne = 38.3%
    Si = 35.4%
    Fi = 34.9%
    Ni = 33.4%
    Se = 7%
    Fe = 3.1%

    Ti Te Ne Si Fi Ni Se Fe

    If there is any validity to those results, I'm not quite sure what that means I would be. I get INTJ about 90% of the time, but have gotten INTP a few times, and ISTJ once.

    So if that is correct, and from what I've read on the individual functions, I'd say it is, or pretty close in the least, what would that type me as regarding MBTI?
    While I don't know enough about you as a person to make a definite judgment, I'd say based on the order of your cognitive functions that you are INTP. You have a high percentage of both Ti and Ne (INTP dom/aux), but while your Te is high, your Ni seems a bit too low in comparison to your other functions for you to be an INTJ (for whom Ni is the primary function). The low Fe may indicate INTP as well, though I've heard from some that your inferior function tends to be more prevalent than the other shadow functions that aren't even correlated to your type at all.

    However, I have taken the same test, and I believe it results in an inaccurately low Ni for T users. Look at some of the questions that relate to your Ni score, for instance (these aren't just guesses, you can see what function the problems represent by looking at the source code).

    "Experience a premonition or foresee the distant future."

    "Gain a profound realization from a mystical state or sudden release of emotions."

    "Merge and feel intimate oneness with other people."

    The second two may be xNFJ traits, but they clearly do not accurately pertain to INTJ'S (who obviously tend to be much less emotional.) And the first isn't necessarily F related, but T users tend to be more skeptical and logical, resulting in less blind belief in theories not backed by any evidence.

    Ultimately I would say it's the best to judge the order of your functions by reading up on each one, and deciding the order in which you use them; only you can do so, not some test on the internet. (You can find information about them on the main page here.)

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    INFJ - The Protectors


    INTP 'shadow' mode is ENTJ which is Te-Ni-Se-Fi. What I periodically see is that sometimes people will have use of the first two functions of their 'shadow' type but they will typically rank lower than their dominant and auxiliary though may rank higher than their tertiary and inferior. So from that order it looks like you're INTP who is in touch with your ENTJ shadow so to say i.e. you are using Ti and Ne but also at times expressing Te and Ni. This 'shadow' mode generally gets expressed when the person is somehow psychologically stressed or feeling stuck, so if you were taking the test in such time then these traits would certainly run higher.
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    INFP - The Idealists

    Quote Originally Posted by vel View Post
    INTP 'shadow' mode is ENTJ which is Te-Ni-Se-Fi. What I periodically see is that sometimes people will have use of the first two functions of their 'shadow' type but they will typically rank lower than their dominant and auxiliary though may rank higher than their tertiary and inferior. So from that order it looks like you're INTP who is in touch with your ENTJ shadow so to say i.e. you are using Ti and Ne but also at times expressing Te and Ni. This 'shadow' mode generally gets expressed when the person is somehow psychologically stressed or feeling stuck, so if you were taking the test in such time then these traits would certainly run higher.
    Someone else also mentioned ENTJ to me once, and I really don't see how I could be E anything. I'm incredibly introverted, and I always have been, even as a child.

    But if I understand what you are saying, you are stating that I'm most likely and INTP who is expressing my ENTJ shadow? Because of stress? I'm definitely stressed in my life right now, I'm going through a lot, but how would that flip me from INTP or INTJ, to ENTJ? I'm not extroverted at all... so I don't understand.

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    INFJ - The Protectors

    i like vel's theory of INTP under stress.

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    INTP - The Thinkers

    Quote Originally Posted by Infrared View Post
    Someone else also mentioned ENTJ to me once, and I really don't see how I could be E anything. I'm incredibly introverted, and I always have been, even as a child.

    But if I understand what you are saying, you are stating that I'm most likely and INTP who is expressing my ENTJ shadow? Because of stress? I'm definitely stressed in my life right now, I'm going through a lot, but how would that flip me from INTP or INTJ, to ENTJ? I'm not extroverted at all... so I don't understand.
    It is quite possible that stress caused your Te to be higher than usual. But your Ni is still low, which would be abnormal if you were in ENTJ mode.

    In any case, if we go on the assumption that the order of your functions as you posted are completely accurate, I still think your an INTP.

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    INTJ - The Scientists

    The questions, in the test indicated, are extremely ambiguous and open to misinterpretation and confusion. Often they seem to be asking about two different functions at once. This test, Personality test based on Jung and Briggs Myers typology I have found, gives much more consistent results.
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    INFJ - The Protectors


    Quote Originally Posted by Infrared View Post
    But if I understand what you are saying, you are stating that I'm most likely and INTP who is expressing my ENTJ shadow? Because of stress? I'm definitely stressed in my life right now, I'm going through a lot, but how would that flip me from INTP or INTJ, to ENTJ? I'm not extroverted at all... so I don't understand.
    What I'm saying is that because of stress you're using some of your shadow mode functions which are then showing up on the test. In your mind there isn't like a perfect ordering of functions - sometimes under certain conditions some under-used functions get pulled up to the surface so to say. Think of shadow mode this way: You were driving along the road (life) and accidentally gotten into a mud puddle (stressful situation). To get out your have to switch into reverse gear. Shadow mode is something alike that - for times you're stuck in your life and stressed the gears in your mind get switched to help you get out.

    More about shadows: Triggering A Shadow Episode

    Best way to determine your type would be of course to read about functions in detail and determine which ones are native to you:
    Intro to Function Theory + More Detailed Descriptions of Each Function Attitude
    http://www.personalitypathways.com/1...ty-types2.html
    http://greenlightwiki.com/lenore-exe...ction_Attitude

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    INTP - The Thinkers

    Quote Originally Posted by ImNoTJustletters View Post
    The questions, in the test indicated, are extremely ambiguous and open to misinterpretation and confusion. Often they seem to be asking about two different functions at once. This test, Personality test based on Jung and Briggs Myers typology I have found, gives much more consistent results.
    You are correct about the questions asking about two different functions. IIRC, pretty much every problem after the half-way mark does this (as determined from the source code). This makes for an innacurate test, because if you are an INTJ you might answer negatively on the NiFe question because of your lack of extraverted feeling, but that would skew your introverted intuition to being lower than it should be.

    Human metrics is a great test, but remember, it doesn't measure cognitive functions (rather, each question contributes a % value to I, E, N, S, T, F, J, or P). The truly best way to determine your type is through introspection.


 
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