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  1. #131

    Great post!

  2. #132

    Continue guys, i'm just reading !

  3. #133

    I recommend that anyone concerned with this epidemic read Jack Donovan's the Way of Men.

    In my opinion, necessity, not meaning, has become the creeping norm. It is not necessary that you have an identity, any strength, or heritage. There is a common scourge among nationalists and communists, and most people inbetween, and that's the notion of the business profit. It's a dead, cold, idea that strips you of your worth as a worker, or your meaning as an individual.

    Business profit is why global trade preys on undeveloped countries - and why you're rejected on grounds of hate speech. It doesn't care about what you believe in, who your family is, who you vote for, it just wants to keep on churning money. What do you get? Small bursts of dopamine, pleasure, to try and satisfy yourself.

    People are plenty willing to demand something for them. But they rarely lay down themselves on the line (which is partly why hackers are so successful, because they can get quite a lot by manipulating the tools of modern civilisation instead of risking their entire lives). And right now, I'm willing to admit I'm one of those people. I don't want to give up everything I have for the things I believe in, because I have people who care about me in normal life, and honestly?

    We're not raised to fight, climb, struggle, anymore. We are raised to work and enjoy ourselves.

    I'm not calling everyone in this thread, the forum, or the internet to action, to throw down the shackles of civilisation and torch their nearest government building. Balance is a thing.
    I just think it should be entirely necessary to rethink the entire way we live our lives, before we or future generations regret it.

  4. #134

    Quote Originally Posted by metalkettle View Post
    I recommend that anyone concerned with this epidemic read Jack Donovan's the Way of Men.

    In my opinion, necessity, not meaning, has become the creeping norm. It is not necessary that you have an identity, any strength, or heritage. There is a common scourge among nationalists and communists, and most people inbetween, and that's the notion of the business profit. It's a dead, cold, idea that strips you of your worth as a worker, or your meaning as an individual.

    Business profit is why global trade preys on undeveloped countries - and why you're rejected on grounds of hate speech. It doesn't care about what you believe in, who your family is, who you vote for, it just wants to keep on churning money. What do you get? Small bursts of dopamine, pleasure, to try and satisfy yourself.

    People are plenty willing to demand something for them. But they rarely lay down themselves on the line (which is partly why hackers are so successful, because they can get quite a lot by manipulating the tools of modern civilisation instead of risking their entire lives). And right now, I'm willing to admit I'm one of those people. I don't want to give up everything I have for the things I believe in, because I have people who care about me in normal life, and honestly?

    We're not raised to fight, climb, struggle, anymore. We are raised to work and enjoy ourselves.

    I'm not calling everyone in this thread, the forum, or the internet to action, to throw down the shackles of civilisation and torch their nearest government building. Balance is a thing.
    I just think it should be entirely necessary to rethink the entire way we live our lives, before we or future generations regret it.
    this didn't make any sense to me. "necessity, not meaning has become the creeping norm." necessity of what? do you mean finding meaning in life? none of your post is really making any sense to me.

  5. #135

    the tide of humanity, is a festering stinking mess, but floating on top is the cream of the crop that makes life worth living

  6. #136

    Quote Originally Posted by Penny View Post
    this didn't make any sense to me. "necessity, not meaning has become the creeping norm." necessity of what? do you mean finding meaning in life? none of your post is really making any sense to me.
    As in what's necessary, minimally, to live a life, provided you have reward structures. You have to find meaning yourself, which is why so many people are depressed. Otherwise, you walk solitarily wondering what you're doing wrong as you balance your life to the requirements of modern society. Nobody has respect for their country anymore because governments have widely become untrustworthy, and politics has become so entrenching and broad that it's essentially pointless to try and have specific ideas unless you're running for office- so you don't even have the identity of American, British, because why bother?
    It's been stripped away for the sake of making you work alongside the other masses easier. Perhaps I'm not wording this correctly, but I know I'm not wrong, because most people don't have a real place in life that they can say they belong to.

  7. #137

    Quote Originally Posted by metalkettle View Post
    As in what's necessary, minimally, to live a life, provided you have reward structures. You have to find meaning yourself, which is why so many people are depressed. Otherwise, you walk solitarily wondering what you're doing wrong as you balance your life to the requirements of modern society. Nobody has respect for their country anymore because governments have widely become untrustworthy, and politics has become so entrenching and broad that it's essentially pointless to try and have specific ideas unless you're running for office- so you don't even have the identity of American, British, because why bother?
    It's been stripped away for the sake of making you work alongside the other masses easier. Perhaps I'm not wording this correctly, but I know I'm not wrong, because most people don't have a real place in life that they can say they belong to.
    you know, that's why i think nationalism is a welcome concept. i understand wanting to be an enlightened person that loves everyone on the planet and would never dream of waging war against another country for any reason, but that's looking at humanity through a distorted lens that filters out reality. you could say, well, we could make it a reality but that would imply everyone would have to jump on board. there's so much evil doing in this world, in a vast ocean how would one filter it out? condensed into smaller seas perhaps that would be more of a possibility. governments untrustworthy or just runs things contrary to certain people's opinions? i choose trust, and if something isn't right to your liking then it's our responsibility to try and effect a change.

  8. #138

    Quote Originally Posted by Penny View Post
    you know, that's why i think nationalism is a welcome concept. i understand wanting to be an enlightened person that loves everyone on the planet and would never dream of waging war against another country for any reason, but that's looking at humanity through a distorted lens that filters out reality. you could say, well, we could make it a reality but that would imply everyone would have to jump on board. there's so much evil doing in this world, in a vast ocean how would one filter it out? condensed into smaller seas perhaps that would be more of a possibility. governments untrustworthy or just runs things contrary to certain people's opinions? i choose trust, and if something isn't right to your liking then it's our responsibility to try and effect a change.
    Well said. I think family is one of the best ways to form people with a sense of value, even if they're skeptical to things like this, because then at least they have a strict group they can rely on, since we do live in a world where strangers pass by each other.
    I'm surprised this is a debated topic, but here we are.
    Penny thanked this post.


     
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