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This is a discussion on MBTI Types of Five Military Leaders within the Articles forums, part of the Announcements category; Many thanks. Very interesting post....

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    Many thanks. Very interesting post.

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    ok here are some more generals that ive typed:

    John Monash- Considered the greatest general of ww1 - INFP

    John Lavarack - Defeated Erwin Rommel at Tobruk, i believe his is an ENTP

    Thomas William Glasgow- At the Second Battle of Villers-Bretonneux, Glasgow's 13th Brigade, and Harold Elliott's 15th Brigade, recaptured the town of Villers-Bretonneux on 25 April 1918 after the Germans had overrun the 8th Brittish Division (This was the turning point of the war). I believe he was a ESFJ

    Leslie Morsehead - Rivals John Monash as "Australia's Greatest General", was the Commander of forces in the battle of Tobruk and also fought with great distinction in WW1 - ENTP

    Thomas Blamey - Great general from WW1, turned crap in WW2 especially during the Kokoda campaign - ISTP

    Cyril Albert Clowes - Dealt the first land victory against the Japanese at Milne Bay -ENFJ

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    I look at MacArthur as a successful INFJ
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    I'd be interested in seeing what Claude Von Clausewitz is, I'd assume XNTJ from the way that he writes about strategy and the new methods of strategy that he employed, he was deffinately Te, he thought through each step in each strategy to make sure that it was as close to perfect as he could.

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    Quote Originally Posted by expodentialfunction View Post
    I look at MacArthur as a successful INFJ
    MacArthur was an arrogant and idiotic general who got his reputation by sending thousands of propaganda dispatches about himself so he could become a war hero so he wouldn't get fired

    He is far from an INFJ in his dress, his methodology or his tactics, and whatever he was he wasn't healthy

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    Cool thread. I've always like to read about military history and MBTI of course is of interest too, so this is right in my wheelhouse.

    If you're looking for INTP's in this arena, look on the staffs of the leading generals rather than for the "famous" generals. I'm sure there were a lot of them there.

    I would suspect, however, that Gen. George Marshall was an INTP and, notably, he was working in Washington DC. I also have my suspicions about Gen. Omar Bradley in that regard.

    Quote Originally Posted by Vaan View Post
    MacArthur was an arrogant and idiotic general who got his reputation by sending thousands of propaganda dispatches about himself so he could become a war hero so he wouldn't get fired

    He is far from an INFJ in his dress, his methodology or his tactics, and whatever he was he wasn't healthy

    Cool thread. I've always like to read about military history and MBTI of course is of interest too, so this is right in my wheelhouse.

    MacArthur was a VERY flawed individual, especially given his narcissism and enormous ego. To say that he was "idiotic" is taking things way too far however.

    His tactical and strategic talents were legendary. His most famous moment was of course the landings at Inchon, which was a brilliant and hugely successful plan. His handling of the New Guinea Campaign in WWII was similarly outstanding. I'm less familiar with his work in WWI, but I do know he came out of that with a sterling reputation.

    It was not his intelligence but his ego and thirst for power and resentment of superiors "interfering" with him that got him in trouble.
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    Quote Originally Posted by redmanXNTP View Post
    Cool thread. I've always like to read about military history and MBTI of course is of interest too, so this is right in my wheelhouse.

    If you're looking for INTP's in this arena, look on the staffs of the leading generals rather than for the "famous" generals. I'm sure there were a lot of them there.

    I would suspect, however, that Gen. George Marshall was an INTP and, notably, he was working in Washington DC. I also have my suspicions about Gen. Omar Bradley in that regard.




    Cool thread. I've always like to read about military history and MBTI of course is of interest too, so this is right in my wheelhouse.

    MacArthur was a VERY flawed individual, especially given his narcissism and enormous ego. To say that he was "idiotic" is taking things way too far however.

    His tactical and strategic talents were legendary. His most famous moment was of course the landings at Inchon, which was a brilliant and hugely successful plan. His handling of the New Guinea Campaign in WWII was similarly outstanding. I'm less familiar with his work in WWI, but I do know he came out of that with a sterling reputation.

    It was not his intelligence but his ego and thirst for power and resentment of superiors "interfering" with him that got him in trouble.
    If he had "Handled" the situation at all previously there would've been no need for the New Guinea campaign. His deliberate ignorance early on is a big factor in why the pacif war went for so long.

    His command of the New Guinea campaign would be his and Thomas Blameys' WORST failure as leaders. Thier complete and repeated ignorance of the situation, lack of respect for the leaders and soldiers and underestimation of the Japanese numbers made the New Guinea campaign one of the worst. It was fought by the lesser generals such as General Allen and Harding and when they failed to defeat such an "Inferior" enemy they were sacked.

    The New Guinea campaign was a true and serious soldiers war, and shows the difference between say the 57th and the 39th on Kokoda, the leaders could be as great as ever but New Guinea was a hell within a hell.

    As to his work in WW1 from what I've seen is that medals were either given out for the most average reasons (Nothing special about what he did), or America needed someone to be a media whore (Ironically he was was the worlds first press officer >_>). Perhaps he was riding on the coattails of his father to get recognised.

    Not to mention the fact that he never took others' ideas into account, such as those at the landings at Ichon. While the landing was successful, his role as a general to account for those sorts of problems means that he failed his role.

    He did have alot of good battles, but to ever put him in the best of the best would be beyond silliness, it would be a rude slap in the face for far better generals. Just because he was popular and a media whore, dosen't make his a good officer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by redmanXNTP View Post
    If you're looking for INTP's in this arena, look on the staffs of the leading generals rather than for the "famous" generals. I'm sure there were a lot of them there.

    I would suspect, however, that Gen. George Marshall was an INTP and, notably, he was working in Washington DC. I also have my suspicions about Gen. Omar Bradley in that regard.
    I was JUST about to ask about that.

    I suspect that not a lot of XNTPs make it to very high up in the military because we're not willing to kiss enough ass.

    Also, just a general question (GEDDIT? GENERAL?) what about Pershing?

  10. #29

    Very interesting. Impressive extent of research. Thanks for posting!

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    I had always thought it was generally accepted that Rommel was an ISTP and Patton an ESTP - Keirsey & son type them this way, as well as others who have plenty more experience in typing than me.

    Admittedly xSTPs are incredibly similar with a lot of crossover.


     
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