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This is a discussion on What are the best synonyms for each of the dichotomies? within the Cognitive Functions forums, part of the Personality Type Forums category; Here is my attempt: Attitude (I or E): Energy focus: Intensive vs. Extensive Perception (S or N): Information type: Concrete ...

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    What are the best synonyms for each of the dichotomies?

    Here is my attempt:


    Attitude (I or E): Energy focus: Intensive vs. Extensive

    Perception (S or N): Information type: Concrete vs. Abstract

    Judgement (T or F): Reasoning method: Absolute vs. Relative

    Orientation (J or P): Primary combination: Pi-Je or Ji-Pe

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    Making this true:

    Ni: Intensive abstract information patterns
    Ne: Extensive abstract information patterns
    Si: Intensive concrete information patterns
    Se: Extensive concrete information patterns
    Ti: Intensive absolute reasoning patterns
    Te: Extensive absolute reasoning patters
    Fi: Intensive relative reasoning patterns
    Fe: Extensive relative reasoning patterns

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    Definitions:

    "Intensive" meaning focused on what you have (what is stored in your brain already).
    "Extensive" meaning focused on what is out there (what exists in the outside world).

    "Relative" meaning what things are in relation to each other (Honesty > Winning).
    "Absolute" meaning what things exist. Period. (1+1=2)

    "Concrete" meaning what exists in material form (a tree)
    "Abstract" meaning what exists as idea (the word "love" in a person's mind)

    "Pi-Je" meaning using primarily introverted perceiving and extroverted judging (in any order).
    "Ji-Pe" meaning using primarily introverted judging and extroverted perceiving (in any order).

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    Thoughts:

    Jung formulated some of his ideas aware of the theory of the unity of opposites first put forth by Heraclitus

    All of the functions being some sort of pattern of either information or reasoning was a cool idea to me, but that may just be my intuition-soaked thinking leaking. It would be cool to see what any sensors out there think of that.

    This requires some flexibility of thinking when it comes to the actual definition of words, but it helped me to look at the whole typing system as a system of dichotomous patterns.

    I'm not fully happy with it, though, so some input would be appreciated!
    Last edited by _He_; 06-26-2018 at 03:55 AM.
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    Nice! Here's how I (currently) see it:

    E/I= Where you (instinctively/naturally) rely on:
    E= Relies (instinctively/naturally) on a foundation of external information
    I= Relies (instinctively/naturally) on a foundation of internal information

    S/N= The part of reality you (instinctively/naturally) focus on:
    S= Focuses (instinctively/naturally) on particular points
    N= Focuses (instinctively/naturally) on general concepts

    F/T= What kind of aspect you are (instinctively/naturally) influenced by:
    F= (Instinctively/naturally) influenced by human aspects
    T= (Instinctively/naturally) influenced by technical aspects

    J/P= How deal (instinctively/naturally) with the imediate moment:
    J= (Instinctively/naturally) deals with the imediate moment by directing information
    P= (Instinctively/naturally) deals with the imediate moment by observing information

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    Honestly, I'm more of a fan of the axes than the dichotomies. When you look at Te+Fi (for example) as a single brain process, things start making a lot more sense.

    Ni + Se: Collecting world sensations and organizing them into a framework, looking at the 'big picture' and not the details.
    Si + Ne: Collecting information and organizing it while seeking out possibilities in the outside world.
    Fi + Te: Formulating personal values and feelings in relation to outside rules and systems.
    Ti + Fe: Formulating personal rules and systems in relation to outside social structures and values.

    Of course there's a lot more subtlety to all this, but I've found that this works very well as a starting point for me personally. The dichotomies in my opinion don't really do justice to the fact that humans are very complicated creatures where every part of our cognition is interconnected. You can't just focus on one single aspect when they're not separate in practice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moo Rice View Post
    Nice! Here's how I (currently) see it:

    E/I= Where you (instinctively/naturally) rely on:
    E= Relies (instinctively/naturally) on a foundation of external information
    I= Relies (instinctively/naturally) on a foundation of internal information

    S/N= The part of reality you (instinctively/naturally) focus on:
    S= Focuses (instinctively/naturally) on particular points
    N= Focuses (instinctively/naturally) on general concepts

    F/T= What kind of aspect you are (instinctively/naturally) influenced by:
    F= (Instinctively/naturally) influenced by human aspects
    T= (Instinctively/naturally) influenced by technical aspects

    J/P= How deal (instinctively/naturally) with the imediate moment:
    J= (Instinctively/naturally) deals with the imediate moment by directing information
    P= (Instinctively/naturally) deals with the imediate moment by observing information
    I also think of the e/i as internal/external.

    I tend to think of S/N as sense and explore. N explores either their own (internal) future, or it explores the workings of things and people around them (external). Se is the real "sense" one, that's too accurate to change. Si though, is more about organising information into a history of everything. That's pretty hard to put a label on for me.

    J/P is a modifier, and isn't really a personality trait in itself as it just modifies the stack arrangement... J, is the planner. They have to make a plan to go from one side of the room to the other. P is reactive, and wouldn't make a plan to build a house. I wish they weren't J&P and P for planner is so easy to remember...

    maybe J/P should be reaction / action?

    Quote Originally Posted by Drecon View Post
    Ni + Se: Collecting world sensations and organizing them into a framework, looking at the 'big picture' and not the details.
    Si + Ne: Collecting information and organizing it while seeking out possibilities in the outside world.
    Fi + Te: Formulating personal values and feelings in relation to outside rules and systems.
    Ti + Fe: Formulating personal rules and systems in relation to outside social structures and values.
    This seems pretty accurate as long as you're only talking about the two primary functions. INTP and ISFJ and ESFJ and ENTP for instance all use their Si + Ne combination very differently :D. Your description of it is most applicable to ESFJ, ISFJ, ENTP, INTP getting less applicable from left to right (as it's almost not applicable at all for me)
    Last edited by knifey; 06-29-2018 at 05:35 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by knifey View Post
    This seems pretty accurate as long as you're only talking about the two primary functions. INTP and ISFJ and ESFJ and ENTP for instance all use their Si + Ne combination very differently :D. Your description of it is most applicable to ESFJ, ISFJ, ENTP, INTP getting less applicable from left to right (as it's almost not applicable at all for me)
    I'll have to work on the wording then because it's definitely also applicable to how your brain works. Si/Ne for example is a continuum that goes from exploring ideas to structuring information. Everyone finds their own balance in that. I'll have to find a better descriptor for it though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by knifey View Post
    I also think of the e/i as internal/external.

    I tend to think of S/N as sense and explore. N explores either their own (internal) future, or it explores the workings of things and people around them (external). Se is the real "sense" one, that's too accurate to change. Si though, is more about organising information into a history of everything. That's pretty hard to put a label on for me.
    I think the difference between Pi and Pe is determined by whether the perception is based internally or externally (subject vs object) because, at least to me, organizing (or discriminating) information is related to the judging functions.


    J/P is a modifier, and isn't really a personality trait in itself as it just modifies the stack arrangement... J, is the planner. They have to make a plan to go from one side of the room to the other. P is reactive, and wouldn't make a plan to build a house. I wish they weren't J&P and P for planner is so easy to remember...

    maybe J/P should be reaction / action?
    I guess it could be? It's a bit hard to define J/P dichotomies without using either the function stack (Je-Pi vs Pe-Ji) or stereotypes ("strict" vs "scattered").

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drecon View Post
    I'll have to work on the wording then because it's definitely also applicable to how your brain works. Si/Ne for example is a continuum that goes from exploring ideas to structuring information. Everyone finds their own balance in that. I'll have to find a better descriptor for it though.
    Ti+Ne doesn't always structure and store all the information it takes in. Ne can find ideas about how something works, then Ti can say "nope that seems false", and then it never gets to the Si at all. So Ne+Ti can work together without Si getting involved. So if you ignore the Ti truth gate, yes Ne+Si works exactly as you're saying... but that doesn't really describe an actual process that happens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drecon View Post
    I'll have to work on the wording then because it's definitely also applicable to how your brain works. Si/Ne for example is a continuum that goes from exploring ideas to structuring information. Everyone finds their own balance in that. I'll have to find a better descriptor for it though.
    Ti+Ne doesn't always structure and store all the information it takes in. Ne can find ideas about how something works, then Ti can say "nope that seems false", and then it never gets to the Si at all. So Ne+Ti can work together without Si getting involved. So if you ignore the Ti truth gate, yes Ne+Si works exactly as you're saying... but that doesn't really describe an actual process that happens. Well.. in the order it happens.

    edit: I would say most people use their two dominant functions without their third getting involved every time (or being a dominant influence if you want to put it that way). And if Si is the inferior function like in ENTP, they go out of their way to never store the information Ne provides. They just think "Why would I do that, it might change later". Which is why they trip over the same crack in the sidewalk on the way to school every day for years.

    edit: edit: also there is nothing abstract about Ne. Ne is the part of you that wants to work out how stuff works. If you have an idea Ne says "how would all the pieces of this idea come together". Dominant Ne users want to cut open things to see how it works, they want to pull apart the clock and see the gears turning :D. You could argue that Ni is abstract in a way, as it's supposition based on supposition, generally affected by all the imagined cogs of the universe. Still not really what I consider abstract, but I get that. Ne to me seems the opposite of abstract in every way I think of it.
    Last edited by knifey; 06-29-2018 at 08:09 PM.

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    Yeah, why not.

    Observation vs Introspection
    Concrete vs Abstract
    Detachment vs Emotion
    Organised vs Adaptable

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    Potential
    Causation
    Want
    Impression
    Effeciency
    Coherence
    Vibrance
    Sentiment
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bastard View Post
    Yeah, why not.

    Observation vs Introspection
    Concrete vs Abstract
    Detachment vs Emotion
    Organised vs Adaptable

    ---

    Potential
    Causation
    Want
    Impression
    Effeciency
    Coherence
    Vibrance
    Sentiment
    I like those, what do you think of
    objective vs biased for F/T? :D


     
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