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    How would you differentiate Si dom Fi tertiary and Fi dom Si tertiary?

    I think I'm finally getting close to determining my type. I believe I'm either an ISTJ or a repressed INFP.

    I read that a good way to determine your type is to think of how you behaved as a child, since according to the theory your type never changes, and you should learn how to use your dominant function first. Before adolescence, I behaved very much like an Fi dom. Ever since I was abused, I've behaved like a Te aux. Everyone tells me they see Ne in me, so that's either inferior or aux. I don't contemplate the definition of a turd every time I take a shit, so I'm probably not Ni dom. I'm pretty certain that I'm Fi, not Fe, so that rules out the Ti dom types.



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    INTP - The Thinkers

    SJ and NF are huge temperament differences. Read up on Keirsey's temperaments!
    Keirsey Temperament Website - Overview of the Four Temperaments

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    Quote Originally Posted by scenefinale View Post
    SJ and NF are huge temperament differences. Read up on Keirsey's temperaments!
    Keirsey Temperament Website - Overview of the Four Temperaments
    I have. I can hardly relate to either of those temperaments. The only temperament I can easily see myself fitting into is the NT rational.

    So either Keirsey is bullshit, or I'm an NT. Given that I'm definitely an introvert, and I ruled out Ti and Ni dominant in the OP, I'm inclined to believe that Keirsey is bullshit.

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    INTP - The Thinkers

    Quote Originally Posted by Stampede View Post
    I have. I can hardly relate to either of those temperaments. The only temperament I can easily see myself fitting into is the NT rational.

    So either Keirsey is bullshit, or I'm an NT. Given that I'm definitely an introvert, and I ruled out Ti and Ni dominant in the OP, I'm inclined to believe that Keirsey is bullshit.
    Yeah, KTS is "bullshit" and the hundreds of Fortune 500 companies which utilize said psychology must not have a clue what they're doing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scenefinale View Post
    Yeah, KTS is "bullshit" and the hundreds of Fortune 500 companies which utilize said psychology must not have a clue what they're doing.
    I don't care about Fortune 500 companies. That means nothing to me. If hundreds of Fortune 500 companies told me that cutting my dick off was awesome, I would not cut my dick off. The large majority of people once believed Earth to be flat.

    So you're saying that I'm an NT?
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    INTP - The Thinkers

    Quote Originally Posted by Stampede View Post
    I don't care about Fortune 500 companies. That means nothing to me. If hundreds of Fortune 500 companies told me that cutting my dick off was awesome, I would not cut my dick off. The large majority of people once believed Earth to be flat.

    So you're saying that I'm an NT?
    I didn't say I think you're an NT, although from the few posts of yours I've seen in this thread I get the notion you have the I_T_ style of communication, often referred to as "Cold Blooded" communication. But I tend not to try and guess personality types off of a few vague posts, it's bad form and usually remarkably ineffective. I was merely commenting that KTS would not have survived so many years and be so highly utilized by top businesses around the world if it had no merit. But you, someone who is unsure of even your own personality type, seem to know better than they do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scenefinale View Post
    I didn't say I think you're an NT, although from the few posts of yours I've seen in this thread I get the notion you have the I_T_ style of communication, often referred to as "Cold Blooded" communication. But I tend not to try and guess personality types off of a few vague posts, it's bad form and usually remarkably ineffective. I was merely commenting that KTS would not have survived so many years and be so highly utilized by top businesses around the world if it had no merit. But you, someone who is unsure of even your own personality type, seem to know better than they do.
    False. And I didn't say it had no merit; bull fecal matter has its uses. I don't care about what the top businesses are doing or what some academic authority says. That doesn't give anything merit in my eyes.

    If Keirsey is accurate, then I am an NT, problem solved. Anyway, back to the functions. I use Ne and I'm pretty sure that I don't use Fe, hence not INTJ or INTP. I know for certain that I'm introverted. Therefore I cannot be an NT, and NT rational is the only temperament that can apply to me. Where am I going wrong in my reasoning?

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    INFP - The Idealists

    I don't contemplate the definition of a turd every time I take a shit.
    Ne.

    I read that a good way to determine your type is to think of how you behaved as a child, since according to the theory your type never changes, and you should learn how to use your dominant function first.
    Si-Te

    So either Keirsey is bullshit, or I'm an NT. Given that I'm definitely an introvert, and I ruled out Ti and Ni dominant in the OP, I'm inclined to believe that Keirsey is bullshit.
    Fi-Ne in essence, with Si-Te sorting.

    I don't care about Fortune 500 companies. That means nothing to me. If hundreds of Fortune 500 companies told me that cutting my dick off was awesome, I would not cut my dick off. The large majority of people once believed Earth to be flat.
    Fi-Ne

    And I didn't say it had no merit; bull fecal matter has its uses.
    Fi-Ne

    I know for certain that I'm introverted.
    Si-Te

    Therefore I cannot be an NT, and NT rational is the only temperament that can apply to me. Where am I going wrong in my reasoning?
    Si-Te, in conjunction with some Fi-Ne in the question.

    My strong guess would be that you’re an INFP under stress. For me, it's not just about what you say, it's also about how you say it.

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    How would you differentiate Si dom Fi tertiary and Fi dom Si tertiary?

    Quote Originally Posted by Reluctanine View Post

    My strong guess would be that you’re an INFP under stress. For me, it's not just about what you say, it's also about how you say it.
    So my "traumatized INFP" theory, in which I was brought into a state of suppressing my aux and replacing it with my inferior may be correct. @Entropic do you approve of this my lord?
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    INFP - The Idealists

    As an INFP myself, I can see where the ISTJ confusion might come from. I thought I was J (and possibly T) for so long because I'm very rules-oriented and tend to compulsively plan. There are a lot of stereotypes and serious misunderstandings that can lead to mistypings in this way.

    I suggest reading through these posts: INFPs Archives - Personality Junkie and also this: https://personalitycafe.com/infp-arti...tion-ifps.html

    For me, I can fall into negative patterns that can seem very ISTJ. I'll either get caught in the grip of Te (controlling and criticizing the outside world, as in the "recognizing the inferior function post" above) or get stuck in an Fi-Si loop, like so:

    Tertiary Si: Find relief with introverted Sensing (INTP/INFP)
    They often enjoy activities like revisiting places they've been, ideas they've explored, and the history of their family, their organization, or even their culture. They collect detailed information about what interests them and may devote time to researching the past to build on what others have already done. They may be drawn to collect memorabilia or keep extensive records of activities and interests. They recognize familiar subtle sensory elements such as tastes, aromas, and spellings. In the physical world, they take comfort in familiarity. They may avoid or resist new experiences preferring to have new experiences match the old ones that were enjoyable.
    When Younger, they tend not to remember details or put much stock in expected results based on past experience. As they grow, they find they have acquired a rich storehouse of memories, and they learn to recall with accurate detail how something was before and will likely review the past to see what lessons can be learned from it. They often go from avoiding participation in traditions and holidays to genuinely enjoying these.
    Engaging in introverted Sensing can be unsettling and disruptive at times. They can give too much detail or become too focused on reviewing the past and what's established as valid, even if it is for lessons learned. Or they may end up collecting endless quantities of miscellaneous items that give them comfort in their familiarity but clutter their physical lives.

    (Source:
    INFP Tertiary Si)

    Hope that helps.
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