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This is a discussion on If being a feeler doesnt have to do with feelings... within the Cognitive Functions forums, part of the Personality Type Forums category; Originally Posted by LostFavor I'm beginning to think that referencing emotional intelligence, or EQ, may be a good way to ...

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    ENFP - The Inspirers

    Quote Originally Posted by LostFavor View Post
    I'm beginning to think that referencing emotional intelligence, or EQ, may be a good way to talk about feeling types and what their strengths tend to be: Emotional intelligence - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    As opposed to something like IQ, which is a more technical sort of assessment of intelligence.

    The theory being that F is more natural at developing high EQ and T is more natural at developing high IQ. Not with them being mutually-exclusive, of course, but more a pre-disposition to grasp one better over the other.

    My only concern with talking about it that way is that IQ may be too broad a brush to apply to T. I think formal logic is something that may come easier to T types, but that's obviously much more specific than IQ.

    Half formed ideas... needs more thought...
    I assert that a correlation between F & emotional intelligence and T & IQ is utter bullshit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raawx View Post
    I assert that a correlation between F & emotional intelligence and T & IQ is utter bullshit.
    What is your assertion then?

    I don't actually agree that high EQ=feeler and high IQ=thinker. It's too narrow, there is nothing correlating them, and IQ is an inaccurate way to judge intelligence as it only will allow for a rather narrow view of intelligence to be show.
    However, it is necessary to point out the flaws in a theory rather than stating that the flaws exist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CourtneyJD View Post
    What is your assertion then?

    I don't actually agree that high EQ=feeler and high IQ=thinker. It's too narrow, there is nothing correlating them, and IQ is an inaccurate way to judge intelligence as it only will allow for a rather narrow view of intelligence to be show.
    However, it is necessary to point out the flaws in a theory rather than stating that the flaws exist.
    It is my main problem when introducing the system to laymen. They cannot understand how any system can label certain people "thinkers". It makes absolutely no sense to them. Because if you call somebody a "thinker" in real life, that means they are intellectual. And that clearly isn't the case with most thinkers, or feelers. So, basically, I say a mutual friend is a "thinker", and I am not. lol. It makes no sense if you know the people involved. Most people do not think much at all, regardless of type.

    I kind of like "tough minded" for thinker. It is basically harsher than feeling. Thinkers are not mentally stronger, but they are more rigid and impersonal in communication and decision making.
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    ENFP - The Inspirers

    Quote Originally Posted by CourtneyJD View Post
    What is your assertion then?

    I don't actually agree that high EQ=feeler and high IQ=thinker. It's too narrow, there is nothing correlating them, and IQ is an inaccurate way to judge intelligence as it only will allow for a rather narrow view of intelligence to be show.
    However, it is necessary to point out the flaws in a theory rather than stating that the flaws exist.
    Just that the dimensions are much more nebulous. His assertion was too simple and too "easy". Basically what @FearAndTrembling said.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raawx View Post
    Just that the dimensions are much more nebulous. His assertion was too simple and too "easy".
    I guess you completely passed over the part where I said that IQ may be too broad of a brush, that I was refering to pre-dispositions rather than something concrete, and that all of what I said was half formed ideas that needed more thought?

    So... you added nothing to the discussion and labeled something as a "bullshit assertion," when it wasn't even an assertion in the first place. Congratulations?
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    ENFP - The Inspirers

    Quote Originally Posted by LostFavor View Post
    I guess you completely passed over the part where I said that IQ may be too broad of a brush, that I was refering to pre-dispositions rather than something concrete, and that all of what I said was half formed ideas that needed more thought?

    So... you added nothing to the discussion and labeled something as a "bullshit assertion," when it wasn't even an assertion in the first place. Congratulations?
    Yes, yes. Thank you. I'll take my award and be leaving now.
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    I found this really interesting:

    The Difference Between Emotions and Feelings

    It makes sense when reading this why feelers are called feelers (I was wondering if there were more apt words). I think they, by nature create feelings and live in them and use them to process the world. A thinker experiences emotions but for the most part lets them go. Their processing of the world is seen mostly through the absence of feeling.

    I'm guessing that a feeler would feel exposed somehow if looking at the world without their feeling lens, whereas a thinker would feel encumbered by it and find it uncomfortable.
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    ISFP - The Artists

    Another link with a good explanation is this one from Van der Hoop:

    Socionics - the16types.info - MBTI: Functional Descriptions by J. H. van der Hoop

    It was this article that got me thinking about emotions and feelings grammatically.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Le9acyMuse View Post
    Feeling concerns people and how they get along, or synchronize, particularly to the Feeler's preference. Feelers are strongly affected by the company they keep. They seek to contribute to a balance based on their group's needs. They have a sense of standards they accept, and desire for these standards not to be crossed for fear of it dissolving relations and compatibility. They consider how to strengthen or expand their views, and be tolerable and useful to those in their circle. It's a method for uniting people with themselves (the synchronization), even if just the feeler with one other individual.

    Also, just because I use the word 'group' doesn't mean it's automatically exclusively Fe. That's a misconception that paints Fi users as socially inept, and only focusing on themselves, ignoring differing interpretations. If you've ever known an Fi-user, you know that's inaccurate.

    Fi: develops flexible, improvised unity options for its group (alters a situation mentally to achieve a solution potentially more effective than a lacklustre result from an unaltered, objective-based method. the alteration is what makes it psyche-heavy/Introverted).

    Fe: molds its group to the most effective form of unity (based on how people objectively coordinate efforts when achieving results. that's what makes it external/Extraverted).
    Exactly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by willow the wisp View Post
    I found this really interesting:

    The Difference Between Emotions and Feelings

    It makes sense when reading this why feelers are called feelers (I was wondering if there were more apt words). I think they, by nature create feelings and live in them and use them to process the world. A thinker experiences emotions but for the most part lets them go. Their processing of the world is seen mostly through the absence of feeling.

    I'm guessing that a feeler would feel exposed somehow if looking at the world without their feeling lens, whereas a thinker would feel encumbered by it and find it uncomfortable.
    So.. about your link. Emotions are the respons in human body from stimuli. And feelings are the judgements one have made from these, made a philosophy about life, how to live, and how to react?


     
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