This is a discussion on Quiet Ne within the Cognitive Functions forums, part of the Personality Type Forums category; Originally Posted by allisreal I believe @ phantom_cat is aware of those functions. Ji is just a more general term ...
The More You Know *shooting star* :)
In the same line of thoughts, I tend to think of Ne Dom as zany and Ne Aux as quirky.
I think if you talk to some genuine ISxPs you'll come across a few that seem N-ish, partly because of stuff like in this thread - "https://personalitycafe.com/cognitive-functions/67585-surpassing-auxiliary-se-into-ni-while-introspecting.html". The biggest misconception of having Se is that they're all incredibly 'in the moment' which if I'm honest I find just a buzzword that's thrown around, because most auxiliary Se-users aren't in the moment since it's not their primary focus.
I'm not saying you're not an INFP btw, just giving an alternative perspective. The funny thing is that lots of Ns don't actually behave like most of the ones on this forum, because the whole 'head-in-the-clouds, impractical, abstract' side is exaggerated. In reality sensors and intuitives are a lot harder to tell about than it's claimed, at least I believe they are.
Yes I do agree the tests are a bit too generic. But I also think they can give a general outline of a possible type. It may be harder to type yourself if you score closer to the borderline on a certain dichotomy, but the more points you are away from the middle in one direction the more sure you can be about your preference for that particular dichotomy. I have consistently been far from the middle towards N.
I also tend to score very low on Se on the cognitive function tests...I suppose there's also the argument that the cognitive function tests don't give the most accurate results, but I also think if I consistently score very low on Se it is likely that I'm not an Se user. I'm not quite sure of anything I do that would make me even an Se aux. I appreciate your input though. I definitely agree, however, that in reality Sensors and Intuitors are harder to tell apart.
To give more insight as to how my Ne functions, something I tend to do a lot when I day dream is think about instances from the past and connect together in an attempt to find a common trend. I see this as Ne in conjunction with Si. Even though I am thinking about the past I still believe I am engaging with the EXTERNAL world of ideas or impressions...Does this make sense?
I also think the reason I am often reluctant to showcase more of my Ne-isms is as some said that it is in the auxiliary position behind dominant Fi. I had some experiences that I was highly sensitive to when I was younger that caused me to not share much of who I was with people and felt a strong need to feel normal when I wasn't (I promise this is not Fe).
This would explain why I had so much trouble typing my INFP friend. His Ne is nowhere near as loud and crazy as mine and manifests itself when he is writing or already really excited. It's like his Ne comes out when he is excited, but my Ne makes me excited.
Ne is indeed quiet in INPs. It is because our dominant functions are introverted. The extroverted aspect of Ne is simply the fact that our intuition looks outward for its patterns, if you like. When we grasp something, we pull it back in to allow for greater introspective analysis.
INPs simply do not feel the need to verbalise the results, unlikes Ne-doms, who simply can't help themselves.
Because I talk a lot, my Ne is readily apparent - especially if I'm around people I'm comfortable with. It isn't quiet. In fact, I would say that I find Ne more obvious in INTPs and INFPs - with ENFPs it's an all pervasive hum, whereas with INFPs and INTPs it's like a switch has been flipped and everything suddenly becomes insane.