This is a discussion on Quiet Ne within the Cognitive Functions forums, part of the Personality Type Forums category; Originally Posted by heartturnedtoporcelain I would disagree with that - for me, at least. Verbalizing thoughts stimulates me - it ...
you and I agree with the switch idea which make it difficult to understand the general point of the thread - that you don't see INFPs using Ne that often. if there is a switch, which I firmly believe in seeing as I see it working in myself and my brother (who is also an INFP), then it should be readily noticeable if you are an INFP or know one. furthermore, you should notice in it your internal monologue when a new piece of data is examined. obviously, Fi is the ultimate decision making factor, but your Ne should be there helping along the process.
Here's how it works.
Ne is a perceiving function, so you don't make decisions with it. It just feeds you data - a certain kind of data. What Ne does, basically, is pattern recognition. You see a cloud of dots and you are asked what the dots represent, and quickly see a face and say, "A face." And indeed, it was a face. You see a bunch of broken lines and say, "A bike." And that is indeed the correct answer (for the purposes of this example, let's just assume the tests have right and wrong answers, and you keep getting them right).
Ne 'fills in the gaps' with quick understanding. But it doesn't tell you what to do with what it gives you. If you're a quiet person, that's because you are using your judging functions to make a decision to be quiet. I'd look into your judging functions to figure out why you are so quiet, because it does not come from Ne.
Ne isn't loud or quiet, but someone with Ne dominant is more stimulated by discovery and innovation than anything else, so naturally they will use their judging functions to support the purpose of their dominant function. Whatever it is that their dominant function does best, all the other functions act as tools for, augmenting and enhancing it.
Your motivations, however, as in - what you feel or think you ought to do with the data given to you by Ne, comes from your feelings and thoughts, your judging functions. Someone with an extraverted dominant function can be immensely shy, never go out to parties, and test as an introvert on personality tests every time. They might never know they were an extravert, not unless they felt or thought they ought to be extraverted. Of course, someone with a dominant extraverted function is far more likely to be outgoing, because to do so would be more supportive of their extraverted dominant function, but not necessarily so in every case.
I, for example, come across to most people as an introvert because I spend so much time at my house on my computer. But if you step into that world, you quickly find that I spend all my time on my computer socializing, and interacting with people or events, playing multi-player games, doing things that involve more than just myself. It took me a while to figure out that I was extraverted, also because I was raised by my grandmother, who is an ISFJ, and so my primary function is her inferior one, and as an introvert she was always trying to shelter me from the world, and that made it difficult for me to adapt to social norms and behaviors, so naturally I gravitate towards situations where I can express myself without fear of reprocussions - but that doesn't make me an introvert, because I'm still primarily looking for ways to express myself - to express my Ne visions and insights.
@Abraxas . I think you definitely have a point. When I say I have a Quiet Ne I'm making the distinction between using Ne in activities that still engage in the external world but don't involve people such as reading, writing, puzzles, creating music, etc... and those that do involve other people. When I'm around others, especially those who I'm not as comfortable with the whole notion of "seeming Ne" appears to take a backseat. Of course it is still active in these situations...My mind is still jumping from idea to idea in search of a larger pattern as I hear other people's input, but I won't necessarily extravert my own thoughts...I do think this is largely due to me hiding behind my Fi and what it's willing to and not willing to do.
@Abraxas I think that this is the best description I've read about how Ne manifests itself depending on its cognitive arrangement. It applies to me because I originally assumed that because I don't care to engage myself in many social engagements, that I was INTP. I noticed whilst lurking the INTP subforum, that while we shared many similarities, I am in constant need of new information and will go out of my way to find it. I've also noticed that when I am trying to communicate my ideas either through speech or writing, if I lack sufficient time to process all the information I have available to me, my logic will get lost in the chaotic spread of disconnected thoughts.
I may be wrong but a true Ti dom sees more likely to have a cohesive argument when they choose to present it due to only using Ne to fuel conceptual understanding to a point of competency.
But all in all, great summary abraxas.