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This is a discussion on At what ages did your functions first develop? within the ENFP Forum - The Inspirers forums, part of the NF's Temperament Forum- The Dreamers category; So depending on what you read, your dominant function develops from 0-7to13, your secondary from 13-20, your tertiary from 30-40 ...

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    ENFP - The Inspirers

    At what ages did your functions first develop?

    So depending on what you read, your dominant function develops from 0-7to13, your secondary from 13-20, your tertiary from 30-40 and your inferior from 40+

    This seems a little slow to me. So, within my experience and analysis, when a function first starts to develop in earnest it tends to experience a growth spurt whereby the function experiences exaggerated use for a while until the person becomes more used to the change and things balance out. This is clearly reflected in my own experience.

    Up until the age of 10 I had basically no filter and no sense of self-conscience or embarrassment. I wasn't quite captain wildchild, but I remember when my mom would talk to other adults I would want to join in as part of the conversation, etc. I made friends easily because I had zero qualms with strangers. It was right around 9/10 that I experienced my Fi growth spurt where I started to become very sensitive to my internal sense of morals, and much more self conscious / self reflective- little things my friends would say I would be overly-sensitive about (from an ENFP perspective, some INFPs might find this their normal), however this was over by around 14. Then around 17-23 I went through my Te growth spurt, and you can easily see this reflected through my posts on this very forum, in fact I may still be on the tail end of it. My Si is still quite weak and requires conscious will-power, though it gets about 2% easier each year, I still haven't had that game-changing surge yet.

    Sub-consciously that may be what I'm waiting for before settling down, but that's a whole different tangent of a topic.. anyway..

    I want to know when you've experienced each respective growth spurt and development, and your reflections on the topic.
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    I think that all of our functions are developing at all ages, some more so than others. I think in the earliest stages of my life Te and Si were hard to find but school really forced and tested my Te and adulthood began to throw me into some careless Si loops. I can't claim that I can use these functions to the same extent of a Te/Si dom which might be what those age ranges are referring to?

    Ne was always present and I don't think I really had to learn how to use it...? I have no idea how I improve my use of Ne besides when in combination of other functions.

    Fi, I felt like was always strong too but it was definitely something that grew. When I was young my ideas of right and wrong was heavily influenced by adults and cartoons. I always had a good sense for my age though. That ability only grew in high school and subsequently uni. I've been poorly using it though in my adult life now but perhaps that's because Te and Si are pulling at it.

    At first I struggled in school but I quickly climbed up from clueless to top of the class and I think that was due to a developing Te. At this point I never utilised it in anything besides projects. It wasn't until I was about 15 that I saw myself using it as a judging function, utilising a plan and executing it for my life goals. I think this was a sign of growth and the plan was successful. I mostly resort to Te now in adulthood not just for decisions but conversation, not in a particularly mature way, but petty (sometimes) or blunt. This is another growing pain of using Te and a result of experiencing tough emotions in adulthood.

    Si, besides nostalgia trips which I don't really count I've only been using it in unhealthy ways, falling into analysing things which I have no power to change. Recently I've been focusing more on physical health over hypochondria, and that's helped... Only took me like 24 years. I plan to use it more from here on out, as a way of learning from mistakes instead of throwing myself forward insisting that I can't predict what'll happen, but I can now with experience. I foresee my late 20s being my true introduction to Si. Meanwhile Te will always be there to utilise in my career (which I also plan to make use of more in my late 20s).

    So, I guess that means my (true?) introduction to the functions was Fi at maybe 5, Te at 15, Si... at... 25? It's all dependent on if you have life events to trigger it.
    Last edited by Falling Foxes; 01-29-2018 at 03:41 AM.

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    According to thess theories, what happens between 20-30 ? I can't imagine that there's no evolution at all while these might be the most important/determining years in one's life, as you have to get a job, settle down etc.
    But the first two stages make a lot of sense to me. Just like you Tridentus, as a child I had no filter, I was much more extraverted than I am now, I loved contributing to "adult's conversations" during family meals. Around 12-13, I was pretty reckless and mimicked the Jackass with my friends whom I saw almost every day. I was fond of extreme stuff in a "Se" way, but I guess it was just Ne wanting to experiment.
    From 15 to 20, Fi was definitely heavy (lots of introspection, fixed ideas of right and wrong, a whole system of thought based on subjectivity... 18-20 were my "dandy" years, obsessed with Beaudelaire, esthetics and uniqueness. Lol what an elitist and self-absorbed twat.)
    Then I got fed up with Fi and Ne took over again, my worldview compleeetely changed. I value Fe-Ti and feel like I managed to develop them or at least mimic them.
    And these days I just start understanding and developing Te (I'd say it's a matter of survival).

    In the end I think these stages are subjective and very different from a person to another, and I agree with Falling Foxes on functions developing all at the same time but not the same levels. Else, how would we distinguish an ENTP child from an ENFP child ? They're very different.
    But both Ne doms must be particularly prone to have the impression of having lived 1974197 lives and stages in just 20 years, while Si doms might be more balanced and linear.
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    INFJ being Ni Fe Ti Se:

    I've had Ni and Fe working overtime since the beginning.

    Ti clicked on just before adolescence, came on strong, and was really quite an annoyance until I was about twenty. How an annoyance? It refused to be moderated by Ni and Fe, and took the driver's seat.

    And what about poor li'l Se?

    Well, Se is the key to my whole liberation from Ti, and here's how that came about: Let's not dwell on it, but I have the worst migraine condition anyone's ever heard of. Migraine is triggered by various sensory-out-in-the-world thisses and thats . . . the detection of which happens to be Se's specialty. Consequently, about age 20, Se, with the delighted cooperation of Ni and Fe, wrestled Ti out of the driver's seat and took over the wheel itself, agreeing to be counseled most of the time by Ni and Fe, while meantime Ti sits pouting at the bottom of the stack where Se would normally be for INFJs. So the consequences are that Se looks out very carefully for my physical well-being all the time, only raising hell some of the time, Ni and Fe party on with Se, and pouting Ti mutters continuously under its breath about how things should be conducted, to which mutterings the rest of us listen and act upon if we are in the mood.

    And so, while I am like INFJs in various building-block ways, everything is scrambled and I'm unlike INFJs--or anything else--in many ways.


    Um, does that answer the question?
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    ENFP - The Inspirers


    I don't doubt this. Every INFJ I have met has given off a well-rounded vibe in advance of their years. I could easily believe you guys would advance your functions that quickly- but from my experience of myself and many other ENFPs there is no way in hell that we fulfill 4th during young adulthood.
    @Falling Foxes
    It's interesting that you mention Te coming into effect in school at a time when you "needed" it? I think the same thing may have triggered my own development where I started to analyse social dynamics and self-reflection at a higher level because I felt like I needed to in order to facilitate the life-directions I wanted to take.

    I dunno about using Te during school- everything under the age of 16 was the exact same level of difficulty to me, a teacher would say it and I'd just instantly do it. The regret for me is how this caught up to me during adulthood since I never really worked for anything for over a decade, and it's something I'm still trying to compensate for every day, when if I'd had the opportunity to create better habits when younger it would be easier.
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    Interesting question. I think, yes, there must be some development of all 4, but like percentiles.
    I remember being a little girl at the playground and my mother tells the story of me walking up to all ages of kids saying, "Hi! I'm Alesha. How old are you? Wanna play on the merri-go-round?" "Want to make up a play?" Extroverted and imaginative. I remember writing a "book" at age 6. A story about a orange cat with illustrations. I'm sure you guys did too. I did lots of art at that age.
    I remember around age 10 feeling Fi. I don't know why I remember a certain day when I was 10--but I remember very clearly that day walking home from school alone and really feeling deeply my internal feelings and basically "sorting"my values about my parents, my sibling's feelings, my neighbors, my love of nature. I was trying to figure out what talents I wanted to grow and work on--that's something I couldn't have done earlier. If I'd wanted to draw I just immediately went and got my art supplies, but there was no prioritizing or stratagizing for improvement before age 10. I remember trying to take a picture in my mind of where I was and what I was thinking and it has stuck with me (perhaps there was a bit of a surge in baby Si as well-- maybe baby Si was born lol). Over the next years this feeling side of mine developed mostly through reading feeling-type books (fairy tales, adventures and fantasy, Jane Austen and other classics starting in 6th grade. I basically had friends I spent time with but I was dissatisfied with these friendships on some level. I made some big friendship changes in 7th grade and got with the group I wanted. I'm pretty sure these decisions were made almost entirely by Fi.
    In my family,I accepted the rules of Ti. I am close to my ISTP dad-- but my decision to passively follow those Ti rules was also done with love for my dad (Fi). His Ti rules are fair and logical. His Ti suits me fine to go along with. I didn't use Ti, though, just understood what it wanted very intuitively. Now, this is not the case for me with my ENTJ mom. Alright, now I'm doubting she's ENTJ. What the heck is she? Is she actually a ENFP? She seems extroverted. Seems to have more Ni than Ne and plenty of Ni. Seems to make feeling-based decisions although she would say she's "practical". Doesn't understand her feelings well, though. Fi rather than Fe, Te for sure rather than Ti and plenty of Te. Ugg, I don't know. Is this how you others feel when with Te doms? Like you know they don't understand their feelings, but you sure as heck do, so they feel like feelers???
    Anyway, I figure Te started to develop around the time I started to argue back with my mom and stand up for myself with logic. i think? Can Ne do that on it's own? Like Fi can't verbalize enough on it's own in my opinion to stand up for itself in a persuasive way. So 20's a bit of Te. I do think Te and Fi together with Ne write persuasively. My INFP husband can definitely make persuasive arguments. This might be possible with just Fi and Ne together?
    I remember at age 28 after I had my babies and I was in a hospital bed talking to maternity doctors about a problem I'd had the night before. I remember listening to how quickly they made critical decisions based on the information I was giving and I remember thinking to myself that I wasn't satisfied with them making those decisions. "Why do I always present a story, but not try to figure out quick decisions? I think I want this decisive thing for myself. I started to call the shots more. Like right then, I think. I told the maternity doctors that it was my pulmonary and heart doctors who needed to be called when I had a heart-related problem and that basically they would not be my primaries inside of the hospital since I was there primarily my heart. I think I started using Te around about then much more. I also know that when I took the GRE to be a grad student (I was 24) then I scored highest on analytical ability. Like arranging things to make things easier or quicker. I don't know if "analytic" is Ne-Te? I don't know. When I became a manager at age 34 I used Te a lot. Somehow it just seems like Ne is able to do a lot of stuff on it's own--- but that's not so, huh? Or is it.
    Little by little I've got some Si. I used to hate feeling nostalgia with a passion. But for the last several years around Christmas I wanted all these traditions from my past and I wanted to share them with people I love. I like recalling memories now. Like--look at the above? Recalling and telling memories. I'd still be lost without GPS. And today at my writer's group I couldn't remember people's plot-lines like usual, though. They almost have to be feeling related plot lines in order for me to remember them....hmmm.
    Last edited by Llyralen; 02-03-2018 at 09:39 PM.
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    I have quite a vivid memory of when my Fi kicked in as well around age 10. I have a memory of walking up the road to my friend's house and reflecting that I had started to feel more self-conscious and self-reflective very very recently up to that memory. It was such an unusual and scary feeling initially. That sudden Fi surge made me much more hyper-sensitive to the actions of my friends, I remember that period very clearly. Then I think it continued to develop until I'd say it reached full-maturity in my mid-late teens, and that would be the time I remember my Fi probably being at its peak for me, and around that time I'd say it was my best quality.

    I'd describe my impression of Te-doms as being sort of machine like in that they seem to have been put on earth to achieve tasks efficiently and pragmatically. There are two types of Te-doms in my experience, those that may come across as overbearing because they want their superior pragmatic logic to be adopted for others, and those that realise that coming across as overbearing is "inefficient" and people skills are "efficient", and therefore they appear more understanding but only because they view it as pragmatic. That's a slight exaggeration to make my point, but only a little lol- if you meet Te-doms at work, especially in managerial positions, or even in a parental position like in your case, you'll definitely see what I mean. I can understand why, I mean they're not wrong, and there is a reason why Te-doms are polled to be the highest financial earners on average by a significant level.

    If you'd really like to experiment with whether someone you know is a Te-dom or not- go to the ENTJ forum and start a logic-based debate. Te-doms really do take it to another level, even Te secs are much more moderate in my experience, and you'll be able to figure out pretty quickly if the person you know uses Te at that level or not.
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    @Tridentus . My bro-in-law is the second kind of ENTJ who has found it worth while to learn people skills as a means to an end. Hmm.. could my mom be a INTJ like my brother and.... oh my gosh, that makes quite a bit of sense. Do others have a difficult time typing their parents too? Is it because by the time we start to analyze them they usually have their terts developed?
    So I'm listening to my 13 year old son and he's telling me he doesn't think his friends care about him and basically they never include him and etc. etc. And yeah, I'm like.... holy smokes you ARE an ENFP! Also, what about the birthday party you were at yesterday. lol. He's the most J of any of us, though. lol
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    Iam INFP and i felt normal till 11 if i rem right then my Ne started and started feeling a bit weird then. I rem i was thrown off from my normal ''personality'' of then and felt somewhat growing up and being able to see new perspectives.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Llyralen View Post
    @Tridentus . My bro-in-law is the second kind of ENTJ who has found it worth while to learn people skills as a means to an end. Hmm.. could my mom be a INTJ like my brother and.... oh my gosh, that makes quite a bit of sense. Do others have a difficult time typing their parents too? Is it because by the time we start to analyze them they usually have their terts developed?
    So I'm listening to my 13 year old son and he's telling me he doesn't think his friends care about him and basically they never include him and etc. etc. And yeah, I'm like.... holy smokes you ARE an ENFP! Also, what about the birthday party you were at yesterday. lol. He's the most J of any of us, though. lol
    U have ur function axes coming from ur parents. Iam INFP with my Fi Te coming my ESFP father and Ne Si coming from my ISFJ mom.

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