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This is a discussion on ENFP and Self-Preservation Instinct within the ENFP Forum - The Inspirers forums, part of the NF's Temperament Forum- The Dreamers category; Originally Posted by providence I am not an expert in enneagram like y'all so I might be way off here, ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by providence View Post
    I am not an expert in enneagram like y'all so I might be way off here,

    but I always thought the tendency toward escapism in 7s was a mechanism self-preservation, even an escape from boredom is a place of suffering we are trying to preserve ourselves from.

    Certain areas of uncertainty cause me to err on the side of caution, because I know the repercussions of making wrong decisions.

    Once again I am not sure my comments are relevant to this discussion though because I don't understand enneagram very well aside from studying a few types

    Kind of. Think of it this way, all Enneagram types have a basic fear. For the seven it's of being in pain or being deprived. They then try to manage that fear by doing the opposite. Fear of deprivation leads to overindulgence or gluttony.

    That gluttony then comes in out in different ways and this creates the three sub-types: Social, Sexual, and Self-Preservation. These three sub-types exist for all Enneagram types. The difference is the fear each type experiences and the unhealthy way they try and deal with it.
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    Resurfacing a thread I commented in over a year ago can be a dangerous thing. Fortunately I still stand by what I said, other than, perhaps I'm actually leading with 4, not 7 but I still think I am self-preservation first.

    Thanks @NIHM for that defence of my character. You are sweet <3

    It seems like instincts are too often reduced to extremes in this thread. No one instinct is inherently worse than the other. I recognise that my instinct is "selfish" to an extent, @spicycucumber , but I would not then take that to the extreme and say that I am a selfish person. I live by this rule that "You can't help someone before you help yourself". Now, this doesn't mean that you have to be gluttonous or greedy and leave scraps for everyone else, it is more like when they say in an airplane "In the event of an emergency always put your oxygen mask on first before helping others". There is a romanticism over the type of hero who would throw themselves onto a bomb to protect others, completely self-sacrificing act that would go against my instinct, but I argue that a hero could do just as much good, or more if they find a way to survive and protect others for longer. An example of do-gooder SP. Captain America, the So hero vs. Tony Stark the Sp hero (Thor can be sx if we are looking for a triad).

    Others in this thread tried to reduce the instincts to So: Socially extraverted, Sx: Socially introverted and Sp: Sociopath. Hah, yeah, the instincts aren't about social skills and they aren't so simple as they apply to everything we do. So is the only one that has a strong tie to other people, Sx doesn't have to be related to relationships at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Falling Foxes View Post
    Resurfacing a thread I commented in over a year ago can be a dangerous thing. Fortunately I still stand by what I said, other than, perhaps I'm actually leading with 4, not 7 but I still think I am self-preservation first.

    Thanks @NIHM for that defence of my character. You are sweet <3

    It seems like instincts are too often reduced to extremes in this thread. No one instinct is inherently worse than the other. I recognise that my instinct is "selfish" to an extent, @spicycucumber , but I would not then take that to the extreme and say that I am a selfish person. I live by this rule that "You can't help someone before you help yourself". Now, this doesn't mean that you have to be gluttonous or greedy and leave scraps for everyone else, it is more like when they say in an airplane "In the event of an emergency always put your oxygen mask on first before helping others". There is a romanticism over the type of hero who would throw themselves onto a bomb to protect others, completely self-sacrificing act that would go against my instinct, but I argue that a hero could do just as much good, or more if they find a way to survive and protect others for longer. An example of do-gooder SP. Captain America, the So hero vs. Tony Stark the Sp hero (Thor can be sx if we are looking for a triad).

    Others in this thread tried to reduce the instincts to So: Socially extraverted, Sx: Socially introverted and Sp: Sociopath. Hah, yeah, the instincts aren't about social skills and they aren't so simple as they apply to everything we do. So is the only one that has a strong tie to other people, Sx doesn't have to be related to relationships at all.
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    ENFP - The Inspirers

    I for one have grown in power immensely, have gotten less empathetic, and want even more power so I can indulge my desires further. I love to eat multiple huge platters of food prepared by famous chefs, travel on a whim, watch my enemies suffer, and discover new ways to grow my income and power. I used to think not sharing was a bad thing, but Iíve gotten over that. Instead of taking the small piece of pie rather than the big one I want, Iíll take the whole damn pie then buy the bakery so nobody else can have any.

    Iím solitary outside of my business contacts, except for a toy poodle. That toy poodle is the only social interaction I need.


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