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    ENFP Interviewing ENTP Male Mike Silberstein Ne Fe PC/B(S) FF

    Hello fellow ENFPs! In this interview, I spoke with Mike Silberstein about what it's like to be an ENTP male Ne-Fe PC/B(S) FF. This interview was super fun and we talked about a whole range of topics from dealing with Mike's feminine Si to learning his identity as he grew older. Two lead Ne users makes for a great conversation!

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    @UberY0shi @Red Panda This is a pertinent interview to what we were discussing. Thanks @Respect !

    At 18:07 he says his type is the exact same as Joseph Campbell's and Jordan Peterson's. This makes me sad, I thought Joseph Campbell was typed as ENFP, however I never really saw JC's Fi, so this makes sense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Llyralen View Post
    @UberY0shi @Red Panda This is a pertinent interview to what we were discussing. Thanks @Respect !
    If you mean that he is emotional like JP, I don't see it at all, no manipulative dramatic displays. Unless you think I said that ENTPs can't show emotion, which wasn't what I meant at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Red Panda View Post
    If you mean that he is emotional like JP, I don't see it at all, no manipulative dramatic displays. Unless you think I said that ENTPs can't show emotion, which wasn't what I meant at all.
    No. It's not what I thought you meant. This guy is an ENTP who says his type is exactly Jordan Peterson's and Joseph Campbell's, so it gives another example of DaveSuperPowers' typing of what an ENTP Fe-jumper looks like and acts like.

    I don't use "acts emotional" as a broadpoint in typing. Instead for me it's HOW they are emotional. Have you seen emotional ESTJs... I think you have. So just "emotional" doesn't describe the kind of emotion, when they get emotional, what they are emotional about, etc.

    Compare a ESFJ or ENFJ's way of conveying emotion versus an ESTJ's or ENTJ's version of conveying emotion. You could use the word "emotional" for either one, but the ExFJ is going to be talking about emotions, asking people about emotions, and interested in emotional language, yet would hardly ever convey personal-related anger. The ExTJ is going to be reactive and volatile in their personal emotions. Which one is emotional?
    I actually don't see JP as being anything but in the middle on interpreting emotions. He uses analogies and metaphors (Ne) to help people understand emotions (Fe) and he cares about packaging the things he can accomplish for people (tert Fe). I honestly see our tert function as being our end goal most of the time. His end goal is to help the world. Mine would be to use my Ne-Fi to impact the world (Te end game). But he packages his personal Ne-Ti reasoning on "how things work" for the emotional good of the tribe (end game Fe). That's what I see.

    I wonder if I have some good examples for you out there on what ExFJs act like. Oprah is an excellent example of a healthy ENFJ. I find ESFJs when healthy to be very kind and validating while caring about sensory practical things almost exclusively, and when unhealthy ESFJs seem cliquey or back-biting and catty and always really consistently into their Si radar. Like Fe-Si "You must always look and act in THIS way." But even those observations of "catty" or "people collector" isn't what I look at to type. Instead, I see that they care about emotional stability and consensus in others with Fe and then the zeroing in on certain details with Si and then is there also some Ne there? A bit? That's how I type. I look for the direction of the emotionality and the direction of the information. Is it about the outside or the inside, basically.

    Hey @Respect I'm further into the video now. When you start explaining your Fi at 47:00 then it's a bit tough on him until he starts talking Joseph Campbell-like again and making your experience into a holistic story. It's interesting to me to hear about you suppressing emotions. I think a few other ENFPs do too here. My INTJ brother suppressed all ideas that disagreed with his Ni-Te structure, he couldn't listen to information that was unlike how he thought the world was until he was 40 when he became a completely different person. My brother is a different guy now-- huge transition. So your story was interesting to me to hear that a ENFP can have the same experience, not with info but with emotion. Also your 7 story range true for me as a 7. "Well, if you can't make me feel good, at least I can make me feel good and that's what I've got to do." Yep, yep.
    IMO we should get to know you better and you should get to know us here a bit too, since you're posting your stuff here. But you might not feel like you've got time, I don't know.
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    @Llyralen Huh? What were we discussing again?

    Also, he said his type is exactly Joseph Campbell. Jordan Peterson got typed as FF Ne-Ti CP-B(S).
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    Quote Originally Posted by UberY0shi View Post
    @Llyralen Huh? What were we discussing again?

    Also, he said his type is exactly Joseph Campbell. Jordan Peterson got typed as FF Ne-Ti CP-B(S).
    Agreed. I think Jordan Peterson is NE-Ti CP-B(S). I don't know enough about the masculine/feminine. But the quote from this guy at 18:07 is "I'm the exact type as Joseph Campbell-- also Jordan Peterson is a good person"

    Anyway, all just to show what ENTPs look like. Sorry I confused you, UberY0shi, I wanted you to see the interview and I think there was something else that made me want to draw your attention to it, but I'm not sure what it was now either lol. Red Panda and I were talking on a different thread, it's her opinion that Jordan Peterson is an ENFJ.

    I see this guy talking like Campbell and there is enough Ni there for him to talk a bit like Jordan Peterson who has enough Fe-- anyway, you can see it.

    I went and listened to some ENFJs talking online just to get a better feel for them and check if people I personally type as ENFJ are ENFJ. Yeah, I feel pretty solid on it.

    Where is the link to get DaveSuperPowers trained? Also what does OP typing stand for? Or did I hear wrong? OT? Objective typing?

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    I don't think JP is a F dom. A male FJ is not gonna be catty necessarily, since cattiness is a learned behavior in mostly female circles.

    I don't think the tertiary being the "goal" has any validity, the tertiary is an inferior function we prefer second to last. There's no reason whatsoever for your tertiary to have such power, that's the whole purpose/role of the dominant conscious functions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Llyralen View Post
    Agreed. I think Jordan Peterson is NE-Ti CP-B(S). I don't know enough about the masculine/feminine. But the quote from this guy at 18:07 is "I'm the exact type as Joseph Campbell-- also Jordan Peterson is a good person"

    Anyway, all just to show what ENTPs look like. Sorry I confused you, UberY0shi, I wanted you to see the interview and I think there was something else that made me want to draw your attention to it, but I'm not sure what it was now either lol. Red Panda and I were talking on a different thread, it's her opinion that Jordan Peterson is an ENFJ.

    I see this guy talking like Campbell and there is enough Ni there for him to talk a bit like Jordan Peterson who has enough Fe-- anyway, you can see it.

    I went and listened to some ENFJs talking online just to get a better feel for them and check if people I personally type as ENFJ are ENFJ. Yeah, I feel pretty solid on it.

    Where is the link to get DaveSuperPowers trained? Also what does OP typing stand for? Or did I hear wrong? OT? Objective typing?
    I still fumble around with things, but I can say this, Peterson disrespects data and scientific scrutiny like a motherfucker. It's not even funny. So assuming these modalities hold any shred of credibility, he is certainly "feminine" sensory with intuition taking priority.

    And two hours? Fuuuuuuuuck me. That's a lot of shit to consume. GUESS I MUST BE BLAST! lol. I'll look into it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by UberY0shi View Post
    I still fumble around with things, but I can say this, Peterson disrespects data and scientific scrutiny like a motherfucker. It's not even funny. So assuming these modalities hold any shred of credibility, he is certainly "feminine" sensory with intuition taking priority.

    And two hours? Fuuuuuuuuck me. That's a lot of shit to consume. GUESS I MUST BE BLAST! lol. I'll look into it.
    Yeah... I was grading papers while it was going on. Also the above auto-corrected Ne to Ni... or maybe I Si messed it up.
    Does the masculine/feminine thing show an opposite on the axis? For example, if I'm feminine Ne then do I have to be masculine Si? (This is what I think I am unless I'm masculine Ne and masculine Si.... but I think not. I think Ne F Fi M (I don't know....).

    This is the part of it that I still need help with is the M F stuff. Help me UberWonKanY0shi, you are my only hope!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Llyralen View Post
    Yeah... I was grading papers while it was going on. Also the above auto-corrected Ne to Ni... or maybe I Si messed it up.
    Does the masculine/feminine thing show an opposite on the axis? For example, if I'm feminine Ne then do I have to be masculine Si? (This is what I think I am unless I'm masculine Ne and masculine Si.... but I think not. I think Ne F Fi M (I don't know....).

    This is the part of it that I still need help with is the M F stuff. Help me UberWonKanY0shi, you are my only hope!
    It's funny cuz I took a lightsaber style test and scored Soresu for Obi Wan Kenobi. Back when I was still an INFP...

    Objective Personality's system holds that the opposing function also carries the opposite modality. It works as a crosscheck due to its reliable track-ability. Or so they say. I suck at typing people. Masculine Ne likes to steer convos and forcibly change subjects however way their intuition flies off to. Also described as knocking S data block towers over or destroying stacks of cards.

    Anecdotally, masculine sensory people tend to pause their sentences and struggle to recall specific names, dates, etc. And then feel bad or apologetic for not being able to recall them. Feminine sensory people don't give a fuck. "What did I have for dinner yesterday? Meh, who cares, why bother trying to remember that? Anyway so this concept right here..."

    I suppose a personal anecdote is that I'll get angry and stop what I'm doing to try and provoke or elicit a memory of some song that I can't recall so I can replay the song through Spotify. The song ended up being Enya's Orinoco Flow. Granted, I only wanted to remember the song so I could trash talk/troll myself while working. Gotta practice my asshole remarks for any given situation. That would be masculine Si... in a sense.

    But yes, if you are feminine Ne, you must be masculine Si. It's a binary coin cross check.
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