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This is a discussion on Respond to this idea! A pseudo-continuous game. within the ENFP Forum - The Inspirers forums, part of the NF's Temperament Forum- The Dreamers category; Just whatever idea you’ve got— let’s hear it! See if other people agree, expand, or how they react. Either respond ...

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    Respond to this idea! A pseudo-continuous game.

    Just whatever idea you’ve got— let’s hear it! See if other people agree, expand, or how they react. Either respond or leave your idea here.

    How to make this into a game? Kind of like tag? After hearing people's responses I'll choose someone who responded to put up an idea that they've thought of?
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    i Think the following idea is a great ENFP challenge. Actually someone really smart figured this one out for me. @elvis2010 .

    What if you possessed no charm? What would you have to change?

    To challenge yourself, I think you can still use your charm, but what would you have to do if you didn’t have charm? And would you act differently?

    What do you think?

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    What if you possessed no charm? What would you have to change?
    Big, genuine smiles, pretty much all the time. The initial change would be a challenge to find the humor in anything an interaction presented. A mindset of assuming acceptance and appreciation for another's presence would also be in order.

    To challenge yourself, I think you can still use your charm, but what would you have to do if you didn’t have charm? And would you act differently?
    I'm assuming charm comes as a result of some form of receptiveness. That usually means you have to affect emotion in others. Humor and comfort are good, smiles and jokes help with that. Genuine compliments, particularly about things people seem to have invested great effort into are effective for helping with that. If no knowledge is on hand for those feely compliments, then direct specific compliments work.

    BUUUUT we don't have that...
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    Okay so @elvis2010 thought of this challenge for ENFPs in general, but when talking to me. I immediately thought to myself "I don't use charm" but then he said, "Try to get through a day as if you didn't have charm" and all of a sudden I realized I'd have to make more deadlines and I wouldn't be able to talk my way through things with people. It might actually make me much more responsible and I thought "Dang.... being without charm would be terrifying..."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Llyralen View Post
    Okay so @elvis2010 thought of this challenge for ENFPs in general, but when talking to me. I immediately thought to myself "I don't use charm" but then he said, "Try to get through a day as if you didn't have charm" and all of a sudden I realized I'd have to make more deadlines and I wouldn't be able to talk my way through things with people. It might actually make me much more responsible and I thought "Dang.... being without charm would be terrifying..."
    What kind of charm are we talking about here? I could imagine a big portion of our interactions with people are built upon a premise of responsibility for the other person's emotional sufficient contentment. And those that disrespect this concept or even willingly trample upon it are to be prepared for the inevitable consequences. I'm assuming charm is a method with which we establish a ego-stroke either for the other person or both you and them, for the purposes of smoothing over any problems that are a result of you two even talking in the first place. There's that quote, "if someone speaks to you, they want something" that I think holds true for most cases, especially in the workplace. Charm just makes that transaction a little more easier, perhaps even seemingly "more fair". But yeah, without charm, things would require faster, unambiguous transactions. I'm not here for small talk, where's the weekly report?
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    Quote Originally Posted by UberY0shi View Post
    What kind of charm are we talking about here? I could imagine a big portion of our interactions with people are built upon a premise of responsibility for the other person's emotional sufficient contentment. And those that disrespect this concept or even willingly trample upon it are to be prepared for the inevitable consequences. I'm assuming charm is a method with which we establish a ego-stroke either for the other person or both you and them, for the purposes of smoothing over any problems that are a result of you two even talking in the first place. There's that quote, "if someone speaks to you, they want something" that I think holds true for most cases, especially in the workplace. Charm just makes that transaction a little more easier, perhaps even seemingly "more fair". But yeah, without charm, things would require faster, unambiguous transactions. I'm not here for small talk, where's the weekly report?
    You got it. Also--tag, you're it! Your turn to pick an idea.

     

    Also I take it back, I don't want to clean my in-box tonight (but I'm saying it with so much charm... lol. Maybe tomorrow or on the weekend? I hate cleaning it....)
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    Ehhh what's this? Sort of a "What If..." thread?

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    Yes and I have a ton of these ideas. It’s @UberY0shi ‘s turn to pick an idea to throw at us, though.
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    What if for some reason, the generation to come after generation alpha experienced a global, collective gene mutation and every child's brain became more disposed to consume more energy, no longer concerned with saving energy. How much more glucose would be granted the brain? Would the brain be interested in continuously rewiring its entire neuron network in favor of new, critically scrutinized data? Would IQ be invalidated as every child could immediately rise 1 IQ per year? Would confirmation bias become identifiable in real time? How would this affect groupthink and intellectual discourse? How many people would expand upon critical thinking, scientific methodologies and the love of learning? Would @Llyralen get answers to her ever incoming questions? Would we dispose of a desire for AI? Would transhumanism efforts cease? What if autism diagnosed child with energy consuming brains brought forth ideas that follow practical inplementable action and reconfigure the planet? Would the older generation (us) allow them to do this? What if the increase in energy consumption caused these genius babies to die? How would we respond to it?

    Yes I know you'd say I'm ENTP after this, Leesha. Dammit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UberY0shi View Post
    What if for some reason, the generation to come after generation alpha experienced a global, collective gene mutation and every child's brain became more disposed to consume more energy, no longer concerned with saving energy. How much more glucose would be granted the brain? Would the brain be interested in continuously rewiring its entire neuron network in favor of new, critically scrutinized data?
    I wouldn't think of it that way. The brain and nervous system would rewire themselves to compensate for the energy consumption. We think with all our cells imo, not just brain and nerves. Rewiring would be done for both volume and efficiency - more data, more possibilities, less time and energy. The best way to do this is to maximize the "thinking/feeling/processing power" of each cell in the body. If not the brain, then the rest of the neuron network might come up with this system, and "teach" other cells.

    Would IQ be invalidated as every child could immediately rise 1 IQ per year? Would confirmation bias become identifiable in real time? How would this affect groupthink and intellectual discourse? How many people would expand upon critical thinking, scientific methodologies and the love of learning?
    IQ would be invalidated as every child would increase at least 10 points per year. What about confirmation of confirmation biases? lol

    Groupthink and intellectual discourse will remain, but the thinking would be much faster. I imagine not so much expansion as speed of information. Ideas will get obsolete within the day of implementation. There will be a need to be connected 24/7 and avoid unnecessary experiments because of the costs of "rapid obsoletion". Some will ride the wave and keep up, but I think most will get mental motion sickness and overstimulation. There will be a need for people to deliberately "stop thinking" or they will burn out.

    Would @Llyralen get answers to her ever incoming questions?
    No, nope, never. She'll ride the wave of the future, whatever it is, that's for sure.

    Would we dispose of a desire for AI? Would transhumanism efforts cease?
    I don't think so. Even if people stopped desiring AI and transhumanism, they would still study them, for curiousity's sake.
    What I want to know is, why do you ask these questions specifically?

    What if autism diagnosed child with energy consuming brains brought forth ideas that follow practical inplementable action and reconfigure the planet? Would the older generation (us) allow them to do this? What if the increase in energy consumption caused these genius babies to die? How would we respond to it?
    The older generation will not allow it. Either the geniuses will die or the older generation will die out. Survival of the fittest. With a little cheating in between. As someone with a form of autism, at least I could hypothesize that the overstimulation and mental motion sickness would kill me. As of now I'm already prone to sensory / mental / emotional overload, causing breakdown. If I don't die of illness caused by those factors, I'm likely to kill myself.

    Why these topics, specifically? Hmmm...
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