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This is a discussion on Religious ENFP party! :D C'mon in, fellow believers... within the ENFP Forum - The Inspirers forums, part of the NF's Temperament Forum- The Dreamers category; Originally Posted by Pizal NO Hippies! Na come on in, but we will sneak gospel tracts onto your person. ;) ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pizal View Post
    NO Hippies! Na come on in, but we will sneak gospel tracts onto your person. ;)

    Can you define hippie Catholic for me?
    Haha well that's fine with me!

    By "hippie Catholic" I mean that I am an exceptionally liberal Catholic, such that there are times I am so far-removed from the ritualist tradition and hegemony of the Roman Catholic faith that I severely doubt I really "belong" - then again, I am intensely spiritual and (haha key phrase - do my very best) to live what I believe to be Jesus does and did. I tend to not believe in an anthropomorphized "God" of the clouds, with "his" own thoughts and judgments. I tend to believe in two "official" Catholic definitions, juxtaposed - God is love, and love is to will the good of another. Agnostics can pick through the logic of that all they wish, but I believe that God can be, in essence, any act of good in this world.

    EDIT: almost forgot!

    1. How do you feel God in your life? How do you know he's there for you?
    I suppose I've already explained that. I don't see God as a "he," I see God as "love."

    2. Why is your faith important to you?
    Hmmmm, I don't know how to answer this. My faith isn't really something I look to embody, or implement - it's enmeshed in who I am. And there are times in which I am not faithful.

    2. How does your ENFP-ness jive with your faith
    I'm not ENFP :) But to this INTJ, I would say that faith is simultaneously a means of internal exploration, individualization and collectivism through philosophy, and implementation of good will. I don't believe in a religious "system" as I would a rhetorical or quantitative one - instead, I see faith as one's own means of performing the good. This is why Roman Catholicism bothers me. How can one small group of people, no less human than you and I, slap concretized "rules" such as some of those in the Catechism, over the world ethos?
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    ENFP - The Inspirers

    Quote Originally Posted by Pizal View Post
    I'm a religious nut and my dad is a preacher. I wouldn't call myself a cradle Christian though.

    1. How do I feel God in my life. I do believe the Holy Spirit leads me plus when I do something I know I'm suppose to do I feel a sorta overwhelming peace.
    2. Faith is where all of life's meaning ultimately comes from. If there is no God our life has no more meaning the any other animal's.
    3. I tinker with my faith a lot. I don't like to just accept everything and I'm always trying to dig deeper to understand God, truth and Christianity better. I do tend to tinker with my faith, but stay fairly true the the main tenets. For instance, I believe in the traditional view of Jesus, but I have a lot of doubts about the idea of experiencing Hell eternally. I'm always looking for some underlying truth or principle that I can apply to my own life and help those around me. Actually, the more I understand the better I am at helping people so that has actually been a surprise for me.
    First off, I'm an INFJ and not ENFP. That said...

    Don't wanna just steal your answers to support something that's so personal for me, but I like the way you worded things and I don't have much time to type so...yea..ditto that.

    My favorite verses:


    Philippians 4:13
    New Living Translation (NLT)
    13 For I can do everything through Christ,[a] who gives me strength.

    Ephesians 6:12
    New Living Translation (NLT)
    12 For we[a] are not fighting against flesh-and-blood enemies, but against evil rulers and authorities of the unseen world, against mighty powers in this dark world, and against evil spirits in the heavenly places.

    and

    Matthew 6:33
    New Living Translation (NLT)
    33 Seek the Kingdom of God[a] above all else, and live righteously, and he will give you everything you need.

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    ENFP - The Inspirers


    Quote Originally Posted by Anarchy View Post
    o.o I have a question for you OP. I like type 2 girls a lot, but o.o u guys all seem very religious :S...how do I not scare one off and survive the religious side of her? *runs away with the cookie jar and hides in the closet* \o/ muhahahah miiine!

    1. How do you feel God in your life? How do you know he's there for you?

    God is the universe ^^ and everything in existane :\ it's everywhere, there is no escape we are all doomed to be part of it lol.
    Hahaha, of course you're welcome here! *scoots over to make room for you* Hey, I hear ya about the questioning. It's all a part of the faith journey, ya know? Questioning can only make your faith stronger if you accept the fact that some things can never be known... they can only be felt. We'll never be able to logic ourselves into believing, although I have my own logic (i.e. God does things in my life that are so awesome--happy coincidences that couldn't possibly be attributed to luck--that prove he's intervening, plain as the nose of my face!) that supports my beliefs...

    ...if that makes any sense, heh.

    I also agree with you that existence itself can bolster your faith in God! St. Francis of Assisi (my favorite monk :D) wrote a beautiful prayer about seeing God in all of creation. The hymn Canticle of the Sun is based on it!

    "Canticle of the Sun" <3


    Type 2 girls seem religious, eh? Interesting. Hmm, well, just don't belittle our beliefs, and give us space to talk about 'em. The reason I'd be hesitant to date an atheist (not sure about agnostics - y'all seem so much more likeable!) is this idea that some having faith is anti-intellectual. No one should ever be made to feel bad or dumb about their faith or lack thereof! You seem open-minded though. :D
    Quote Originally Posted by Vaan View Post
    It'll take me awhile to compile my favourites (Because it starts at Genesis 1:1 and ends at Revelation 22:21).

    But 2 great ones are Romans 15 and Matthew 7 ^^
    Ah, Matthew 7 is so good! Gotta finish reading the new testament. Thanks for bringing it up!

    “Ask and it will be given to you; seek and you will find; knock and the door will be opened to you. For everyone who asks receives; the one who seeks finds; and to the one who knocks, the door will be opened."

    Really drives home the importance of prayer. It's easy to forget to ask for help when you're caught up in the midst of emotional turmoil, retreating inside your head, wrapped up in your feelings.

    Quote Originally Posted by Pizal View Post
    I do believe the Holy Spirit leads me plus when I do something I know I'm suppose to do I feel a sorta overwhelming peace.
    2. Faith is where all of life's meaning ultimately comes from. If there is no God our life has no more meaning the any other animal's.
    3. I tinker with my faith a lot. I don't like to just accept everything and I'm always trying to dig deeper to understand God, truth and Christianity better. I do tend to tinker with my faith, but stay fairly true the the main tenets. For instance, I believe in the traditional view of Jesus, but I have a lot of doubts about the idea of experiencing Hell eternally. I'm always looking for some underlying truth or principle that I can apply to my own life and help those around me. Actually, the more I understand the better I am at helping people so that has actually been a surprise for me.
    Well said! I feel the same way as you do about exploring our faith for the deeper meaning, and how when you understand things better, it manifests itself through your actions towards others around you! I feel like evangelizing without specifically mentioning Jesus is possible, at times.
    "By this all men will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another."
    John 13:35

    Quote Originally Posted by Dancnonthestars View Post
    My faith keeps me going with a strong,grounded purpose from day to day. Without it, what would be the reason to carry on? It gives me a relationship that will last, a goal I can strive toward (spreading healing to others), and a peace in the chaos that is my mind.
    ...
    I feel that being an ENFP has made me want to know more and more about God (curiosity). He/She talks back,but not always in ways that are obvious at first. I've lived through enough hardships to understand that. When I was younger I remember going through a dry spell in my faith where I felt like I was completely abandon. I never was alone, thank God.
    I've gone through that dry spell too. Peace in the midst of choas... that's a great way to put it. And having trouble with making decisions and discerning our purpose in life can be a serious barrier to us ENFPs, so yeah, having that goal defined for us (spreading the God of Christ and glorifying God in all that we do) is amazing. It's certainly not always easy, though!

    Will mull over the rest of what y'all have posted and be back later. So happy there's a crowd of us to bounce ideas back n' forth!
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    Quote Originally Posted by brightlywound View Post
    Ah, Matthew 7 is so good! Gotta finish reading the new testament. Thanks for bringing it up!

    “Ask and it will be given to you; seek and you will find; knock and the door will be opened to you. For everyone who asks receives; the one who seeks finds; and to the one who knocks, the door will be opened."

    Really drives home the importance of prayer. It's easy to forget to ask for help when you're caught up in the midst of emotional turmoil, retreating inside your head, wrapped up in your feelings.
    Yep it's further reinforced in Matthew 21:22 - "And all things, whatsoever ye shall ask in prayer, believing, ye shall receive"

    And here in 1 John 3:22 - "and receive from him anything we ask, because we obey his commands and do what pleases him."

    Some other good scriptures (I'll just post more as they come to me or if i find some great ones ^^)

    Ephesians 6:12
    "For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places"

    I love this one, it tells us that it we shouldn't be fighting against each other because we are not each other's enemies, our real enemies are them ^^

    Psalm 16:8
    "I have set the Lord always before me: because he is at my right hand i shall not be moved"

    Romans 15:13
    "May the God of hope fill you with all joy and peace as you trust in him, so that you may overflow with hope by the power of the Holy Spirit"

    Matthew 5:16
    "Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven."
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    INFP - The Idealists

    Thanks, i'm trying to compile a list (and possibly build a community) of NF Christians on here. I'm a fairly open-minded, socially liberal, theologically somewhat conservative evangelical Christian.
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    INFP - The Idealists

    ENFJ Xtianity thread (that i started, because i want to meet Christian ENFJs!)

    INFPs and Christianity
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    ENFP - The Inspirers

    "Faith is being sure of what we hope for and certain of what we do not see." - Hebrews 11:1

    "Whoever does not love does not know God, because God is love." - 1 John 4:8

    "For I am convinced that neither death nor life, neither angels nor demons, neither the present nor the future, nor any powers, neither height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God that is in Christ Jesus our Lord." - Romans 8:38-39

    I'm certainly not the most traditional Christian ever, but it's easy for me to find inspiration in the bible.
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    ENFP - The Inspirers

    1. How do you feel God in your life? How do you know he's there for you?

    Because something or someone got me off alcohol when no force of my own or any other human being could. Similarly, I actually survived watching my husband die, leaving me to raise our kids alone. It's possible that the kids provided me with the reason to keep living, but something greater saw it done when I did not think I could possibly go on. Also, I am a multi-degreed scientist. The more science that I learn, the less I can accept that "all of this" is just some random occurrence, determined by lowest free energy or such.


    2. Why is your faith important to you? Because the potential growth of my spiritual self is amazing and unimaginable. Simple physical maturity or financial success is not near so intriguing as growing spiritually, considering infinite possibilitlies.


    3. How does your ENFP-ness jive with your faith My "ENFP-ness" (damn - that makes me giggle EVERY time I say it!) fuels my spiritual quest with optimism and hope, positive energy if you will. I started my faith journey via the message of Jesus (and am still a huge fan), but have since broken free of man's religions, putting myself into the great "that which is", fully trusting in wonderful possibilities. My natural exuberance and desire to see the best in things sort of killed the original fear-based religion of my youth. Also, my innate inquisitiveness got me in a heap of trouble with my church - their God cannot handle questions, apparently. I am grateful for that clash because it led to the freedom with which I now explore, as a liberal Quaker.

    Fave verses etc:

    "Enlightened beings do not compete for the right to grab and hoard that which belongs to everyone."

    "Religion should not be about controlling the world, but living in it."

    "Human finiteness will neve be able to comprehend divine infiniteness."

    "Let your life preach."

    "Trust in the lord with all of your heart. Lean not on your own understanding. In all ways acknowledge him and he will make your paths straight." (Prov 3:5-6)

    "Keep seeking and you will find. Keep knocking and the door will be opened to you. For everyone who asks receives, everyone who seeks finds, and to everyone who knocks, the door will be opened." (Luke 11:9-10)
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    INTP - The Thinkers

    Quote Originally Posted by brightlywound View Post
    Type 2 girls seem religious, eh? Interesting. Hmm, well, just don't belittle our beliefs, and give us space to talk about 'em. The reason I'd be hesitant to date an atheist (not sure about agnostics - y'all seem so much more likeable!) is this idea that some having faith is anti-intellectual. No one should ever be made to feel bad or dumb about their faith or lack thereof! You seem open-minded though. :D
    Not all us atheists are bad. :P Its a bit like religious nut jobs and hardcore bible bashers. They're the loudest members of their group, so people judge the group based on the actions of the few in it. I would have no compunction dating a religious person, provided they didn't force it on me or any offspring. In fact, a large number of atheists are spiritual, we just choose not to believe in a particular god.
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    “…and what does the Lord require of you? To do justice, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with your God.” - Micah 6:8


     
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