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This is a discussion on What pisses you off about ENFPs? within the ENFP Forum - The Inspirers forums, part of the NF's Temperament Forum- The Dreamers category; Originally Posted by AnneM So shallow. You clearly didn't read this yet. When I was younger, I had a simple ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by AnneM View Post
    So shallow.
    You clearly didn't read this yet. When I was younger, I had a simple solution to it all: silence the other voice and never let it have a say. Didn't work out, and now I don't know what the F to do with it. So I'm just playing around with it instead, like the 15-year-old I am on that plane of existence.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marvin the Dendroid View Post
    You clearly didn't read this yet. When I was younger, I had a simple solution to it all: silence the other voice and never let it have a say. Didn't work out, and now I don't know what the F to do with it. So I'm just playing around with it instead, like the 15-year-old I am on that plane of existence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AnneM View Post

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    Their intolerance of introverts, at the same time they IDENTIFY with a lot of introverted qualities and needs, because of their Fi. Like, introverts are just using it as an excuse to not be there for other people doing the things they "should" be doing.
    As do most extroverts, they tend to look on introversion as a disease to be cured, or as an immature stage on the path to extroversion which they grew out of (which is why they can identify); and so they show their love of you by trying to "cure" you . . . with disastrous results. Back off, Extroverts! Love me, love my inversion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by odinthor View Post
    As do most extroverts, they tend to look on introversion as a disease to be cured, or as an immature stage on the path to extroversion which they grew out of (which is why they can identify); and so they show their love of you by trying to "cure" you . . . with disastrous results. Back off, Extroverts! Love me, love my inversion.
    I will say this about the ENFPs I've known. It's a hard fight at first, and you have to repeat yourself about your introverted needs, but, at some point, they start to respect it. My dad's wife will even encourage me now to go find a quiet place to read away from my kids.

    I've also felt that, after the smoke of the confrontation has cleared, they've respected me more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Katie Tran View Post
    I sense @Northern Lights lurking again
    Possibly

    I felt like I had nothing of value to add though. What currently irritates me most is excessive J-ness, and, well, that ain't what you got
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    Quote Originally Posted by odinthor View Post
    As do most extroverts, they tend to look on introversion as a disease to be cured, or as an immature stage on the path to extroversion which they grew out of (which is why they can identify); and so they show their love of you by trying to "cure" you . . . with disastrous results. Back off, Extroverts! Love me, love my inversion.
    Perhaps it depends on the culture ? In my culture nobody wants to be extroverted- itís look down upon - a wise man listen more than he talks is a common phrase used.
    Also I have yet to see any extrovert forcing introverts to be more extroverted or look at the kind as something inferior - canít say the same about vice versa
    Most of my friends are social introvert and they assume Iím an introvert as well - all they do is complain about extrovert when reality is- unless extreme , itís hard to decipher between the 2. I find J vs P easier to tell apart


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    Quote Originally Posted by ai.tran.75 View Post
    Perhaps it depends on the culture ? In my culture nobody wants to be extroverted- itís look down upon - a wise man listen more than he talks is a common phrase used.
    Also I have yet to see any extrovert forcing introverts to be more extroverted or look at the kind as something inferior - canít say the same about vice versa
    Most of my friends are social introvert and they assume Iím an introvert as well - all they do is complain about extrovert when reality is- unless extreme , itís hard to decipher between the 2. I find J vs P easier to tell apart


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    My experience is quite different indeed. Time and time again, uniformly over the people and years*, they ("my" ENFPs) have cooked up situations to force me into being at the center of attention, or to make me "in charge" in some prominent way . . . then wonder why I'm not thanking them for my being liberated. :-( Perhaps extroverts don't realize when they have an attitude and are effectively strong-arming introverts.

    *And even here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ai.tran.75 View Post
    Perhaps it depends on the culture ? In my culture nobody wants to be extroverted- it’s look down upon - a wise man listen more than he talks is a common phrase used.
    Also I have yet to see any extrovert forcing introverts to be more extroverted or look at the kind as something inferior - can’t say the same about vice versa
    Most of my friends are social introvert and they assume I’m an introvert as well - all they do is complain about extrovert when reality is- unless extreme , it’s hard to decipher between the 2. I find J vs P easier to tell apart


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    Quote Originally Posted by odinthor View Post
    My experience is quite different indeed. Time and time again, uniformly over the people and years*, they ("my" ENFPs) have cooked up situations to force me into being at the center of attention, or to make me "in charge" in some prominent way . . . then wonder why I'm not thanking them for my being liberated. :-( Perhaps extroverts don't realize when they have an attitude and are effectively strong-arming introverts.

    *And even here.
    I agree, it's cultural. I grew up in an introverted culture where it's the extroverts who get told to shut up. It is in extroverted countries I have been told to cheer up and talk more - Southern Europe mostly, but I've never been to the Americas and I can imagine much of it would be extrovert-dominated. I hated India for the locals' inability to accept any kind of introversion - if you're there, you must get up and dance, metaphorically speaking. Lethally exhausting.
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    What pisses you off about ENFPs?

    Quote Originally Posted by Marvin the Dendroid View Post
    I agree, it's cultural. I grew up in an introverted culture where it's the extroverts who get told to shut up. It is in extroverted countries I have been told to cheer up and talk more - Southern Europe mostly, but I've never been to the Americas and I can imagine much of it would be extrovert-dominated. I hated India for the locals' inability to accept any kind of introversion - if you're there, you must get up and dance, metaphorically speaking. Lethally exhausting.
    It depends where youíre from in America - for example La is different than say the Silicon Valley - Cupertino/Milpitas ( https://datausa.io/profile/geo/cupertino-ca/ , ehttp://worldpopulationreview.com/us-cities/milpitas-ca-population/ ) Iím from a very high tech area and many of our residents are East Asians - south Asian- middle eastern - etc etc so introversion is highly appreciated , whereas extroversion looked down upon - my son gets stink eye and glared at for being loud and extroverted despite the fact that heís well behaved - my mother doesnít get taken seriously bc sheís not calm or tranquil - I get treated better bc Iím mellow. Hence I was shocked to find out that introvert feel pressured by extroverted- if anything itís quite the opposite here


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