the differences that you've noticed between 2w1 ESFJs and 6w7 ESFJs?

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This is a discussion on the differences that you've noticed between 2w1 ESFJs and 6w7 ESFJs? within the Enneagram Personality Theory Forum forums, part of the Personality Type Forums category; The general differences between a 2w1 or a 6w7 will not do so don't post it beneath, thanks....

  1. #1
    Type 4w5


    the differences that you've noticed between 2w1 ESFJs and 6w7 ESFJs?

    The general differences between a 2w1 or a 6w7 will not do so don't post it beneath, thanks.



  2. #2
    Type 1w9


    I had this dilemma with deciding my moms type, so I think I can help out. It's understandable to confuse the two types as, especially when SO varient is present high in the stack, the two types can appear very similar due to both 2 and 6 being superego types. I find that 6w7s with have more noticeable Si while 2w1s will be more Fe heavy since 2s core motivation is to feel loved and 6s core motivation is to find security. Another big difference is that 2w1 is double superego type and 6w7 is a superego type combined with an id type, so a 2w1 with Fe might appear more "prim and proper" or moralistic/self controlled than the 6w7, who might appear prim and proper but less controlled/more adventurous. 2w1s have a tendency to be more meticulous and perfectionist while 6w7s are more spontaneous. ESFJ 6w7s are more prone to anxiety and will be the type of people that always have to be doing something/keep moving. 2w1s are more optimistic than 6w7s who are more foreboding and pessimistic.

    Hopefully that helped.

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    Quote Originally Posted by typethisperson View Post
    The general differences between a 2w1 or a 6w7 will not do so don't post it beneath, thanks.
    lol. I hope my post meets your requirements :P

    An undercurrent of anxiety would be present in 6s, which would be evident in asking for others' opinions, asking for specific information, and knowing a lot of precise facts.
    2s seem more narcissistic, liable to get angry if criticized, whereas 6s will often reply to criticism with "thanks for the advice!" Their fear doesn't leave room for narcissism.
    I knew a self-typed 2 who told me matter-of-factly that she just didn't feel fear. She wasn't bragging, she was just stating a fact.

    Both 2s and 6s are noticeably warm and friendly, especially ESFJs, I would imagine. It could be hard to tell apart a 6's friendliness from a 2's friendliness at first blush. You would have to know them well enough to know their true motivation for their extreme warmth. Is it motivated by fear, e.g. "I'll watch your back and you watch mine" or is it motivated by narcissism, e.g. "I love you so you have to love me back!"

    One way 6s express warmth is looking out for others, reminding them of appointments/ assignments, giving them tips, making sure they're not late, etc. They may offer help but it sounds like "just wanted to make sure you're okay because I know how easily things can go wrong and I don't want it to go wrong for you".

    2s offer help as well, of course, but it sounds like "let me help you with that so that we can both realize how much we love each other!" 2s also seem to try to get people to complement them, maybe by posting selfies meant to invite positive comments, or complementing others excessively in the hopes it will be returned.

    They are very different types, really.
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  5. #4
    Type 4w5


    Quote Originally Posted by Krayfish View Post
    I had this dilemma with deciding my moms type.
    Bingo! that's pretty much what i'm trying to do. Thanks for your list of differences and btw did you figure out her type in the end?
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  6. #5
    Type 4w5


    Quote Originally Posted by charlie.elliot View Post

    2s seem more narcissistic, liable to get angry if criticized, whereas 6s will often reply to criticism with "thanks for the advice!" Their fear doesn't leave room for narcissism.
    Interesting. I thought a 6 would be reactive when it came to advice since they might get suspicious as to if I liked them in the first place like my annoying 6 sister does.

  7. #6
    Type 4w5


    the moment i read this it all came together and i realized she is a 2w1. ''FEAR: of being unloved & unappreciated, so they play favorites, judging some people more worthy of their attention than others.''

  8. #7
    Type 1w9


    Quote Originally Posted by typethisperson View Post
    Bingo! that's pretty much what i'm trying to do. Thanks for your list of differences and btw did you figure out her type in the end?
    Yeah, she ended up being a 6w7 sp/so (621 tritype actually). The core of her personality seems to be security seeking and she can't sit still for the life of her.
    Quote Originally Posted by typethisperson View Post
    the moment i read this it all came together and i realized she is a 2w1. ''FEAR: of being unloved & unappreciated, so they play favorites, judging some people more worthy of their attention than others.''
    Sounds just about right for an unhealthy 2
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    Quote Originally Posted by typethisperson View Post
    Interesting. I thought a 6 would be reactive when it came to advice since they might get suspicious as to if I liked them in the first place like my annoying 6 sister does.
    I'm sure some would. 6s are famously the most diverse type so it's hard to make any general statement about them. A few 6s I know are so eager to make sure their information is correct that they see criticism as helpful even if it's also painful.
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  10. #9
    Type 4w5


    Quote Originally Posted by Krayfish View Post
    Yeah, she ended up being a 6w7 sp/so (621 tritype actually). The core of her personality seems to be security seeking and she can't sit still for the life of her.
    that's defo not my mum.

    Sounds just about right for an unhealthy 2
    she was for years actually but she is slowly getting back to being healthy.
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  11. #10
    Type 4w5


    Quote Originally Posted by charlie.elliot View Post
    I'm sure some would. 6s are famously the most diverse type so it's hard to make any general statement about them.
    I wish people would adapt this same mentality with SJs as well.
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