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  1. #11
    Type 4w5

    Quote Originally Posted by Duo View Post
    Not going to comment on the other tritype archetypes but 358 as an archetypal Entrepreneur would be inaccurate.

    This is Fauvre's descriptions of the tritype archetypes.

    Tritype® Enneastyle
    "358 Tritype may seem like a brash, confident and success driven achiever that does not suffer fools gladly. They can appear to be tough-minded individuals that can easily call a spade a spade but can also come across as stony and insensitive.

    This is true in part because the 358s are street-wise and believe in the school of hard knocks. They think that one learns the most by doing, and they think that the best lessons in life are learned by having to do things the hard way.

    The 358 is known for being strategically brilliant but also for being blunt and to the point. Their inner drive is to succeed and conqueror. They do this by using a mind over matter approach to life and their innate ability to quickly size up the competition or situation at hand. They begin by setting their sights on something that is of interest to them and then developing and executing the plans needed to acquire it. They achieve their goals by employing foresight, strategic planning and step-by-step analysis."


    All you're doing is proving me right. An entrepreneur is out to make a profit in the business world no matter what it takes, and this description is of someone exactly like that. I went with the name "Entrepreneur" because I thought "Business Executive" or "Business Titan" sounded overpowering.

  2. #12
    Type 7w8

    I went with the name "Entrepreneur" because I thought "Business Executive" or "Business Titan" sounded overpowering.
    And yet you go and and name 378s Kings

  3. #13
    Type 4w5

    Quote Originally Posted by SirCanSir View Post
    And yet you go and and name 378s Kings
    Good point. there are further improvements yet to be made.
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  5. #14
    Unknown

    Quote Originally Posted by Monadnock View Post
    "358 Tritype may seem like a brash, confident and success driven achiever that does not suffer fools gladly. They can appear to be tough-minded individuals that can easily call a spade a spade but can also come across as stony and insensitive.

    This is true in part because the 358s are street-wise and believe in the school of hard knocks. They think that one learns the most by doing, and they think that the best lessons in life are learned by having to do things the hard way.

    The 358 is known for being strategically brilliant but also for being blunt and to the point. Their inner drive is to succeed and conqueror. They do this by using a mind over matter approach to life and their innate ability to quickly size up the competition or situation at hand. They begin by setting their sights on something that is of interest to them and then developing and executing the plans needed to acquire it. They achieve their goals by employing foresight, strategic planning and step-by-step analysis."


    All you're doing is proving me right. An entrepreneur is out to make a profit in the business world no matter what it takes, and this description is of someone exactly like that. I went with the name "Entrepreneur" because I thought "Business Executive" or "Business Titan" sounded overpowering.
    Why not strategic achievers?
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  6. #15

    Now I shall be known as Fearless Physician.

    INFP: Introverted iNtuitive Fearless Physician
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  7. #16
    Type 7w8

    Quote Originally Posted by Monadnock View Post
    Good point. there are further improvements yet to be made.
    How about Dream/Ambition/Power Chasers?
    Or maybe the Changers?

  8. #17
    Type 5w6

    Quote Originally Posted by Monadnock View Post
    135: Engineer
    How 'bout that... I *AM* an engineer!
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  9. #18
    Type 5w4

    Below is the most up to date description of 358 by Katherine Fauvre (new material has been added for a master class she is currently doing on tritype -- @RexMaximus may be interested in reading it :)

    She refers to them as a "conqueror" at one point -- that could be a good name, better than her 'solutions master' anyway bc conqueror better implies the won't give up/in/back down quality to them. The drive in this (tri)type is incredible, their vision long, their will unwavering. Their ability to remain focused, not be moved by emotion and value truth above all lends itself to an ability to manipulate reality and realize goals, particularly in the long term which is where they excel. These are very tough and serious minded people who focus on achievement, usually with large goals in mind. I don't think 'entrepreneur' quite cuts it. 'Strategic achievers' (by @Duo ) sounds okay to me.

    The 358 Tritype

    The 358 Tritype Archetype, The Solution Master, includes the 358, 385, 538, 583, 835 and 853. This Tritype is a dynamic achiever and power broker, but is also often misunderstood.

    From the outside, the 358 Tritype may seem like a brash, confident and success driven achiever that does not suffer fools gladly. They can appear to be tough-minded individuals that can easily call a spade a spade but can also come across as stony and insensitive.

    This is true in part because the 358s are street-wise and believe in the school of hard knocks. They think that one learns the most by doing, and they think that the best lessons in life are learned by having to do things the hard way.

    The 358 is known for being strategically brilliant but also for being blunt and to the point. Their inner drive is to succeed and conqueror. They do this by using a mind over matter approach to life and their innate ability to quickly size up the competition or situation at hand. They begin by setting their sights on something that is of interest to them and then developing and executing the plans needed to acquire it. They achieve their goals by employing foresight, strategic planning and step-by-step analysis.

    538’s are known for being impersonal and unemotional. Yet the truth is everything is very personal for them. They see life as one giant chess game that they intend to win through mastery.

    But that is only part of the story. They succeed not because they do not have emotions but rather because they are not limited by emotions. The 358 can separate their emotions from any issue at hand, which can at times be confusing to some of the more tender-hearted Tritypes like the 269, 379, or 469, all of whom use their emotions to make decisions. In fact, the 358 Tritype believes that emotions confuse and limit, only serving to slow them down.

    358s focus on the long game and have very little use for ignorance. They are demanding of themselves and others. They are natural entrepreneurs and generally achieve whatever they set out to do. They seek and can readily identify the competitive advantage in any area of life, whether in business, sports or love. They will always have or will readily develop a strategy for success.

    Their main focus in life is to achieve the realization of their ambitions. They do this by enduring and overcoming adversity. They never give up and do not back down or give in. Setbacks become fuel for future endeavors. Failures pave the way for greater successes.

    They are no nonsense people that value experience over titles or degrees. They are extremely hard workers and very self-motivated. They can be seen as work-a-holics, but they truly love whatever they do or they would stop doing it. They are what they achieve.

    Another important part of the story is that the 358s are actually thinkers and doers rather than feelers. Underneath their logical solution mastery is a tender-hearted person that manages distress by doing something to fix a problem rather than being trapped in what feels like illogical emotional chaos. The truth is that the 358 is uncomfortable with emotions; both their own emotions and the emotions of others. This is because they value data and information and fail to see the data and information that emotions provide.

    358s have a defense strategy that survives by learning from their experiences so that they can succeed the next time they face the same problem. Emotionally charged experiences that result in feelings of shame and humiliation leave the strongest impressions. As a result, these are the areas of life that the 358s wish to conqueror first. And these are the first lessons the 358s want to teach loved ones.

    358s do not want anyone they care about to suffer or be disadvantaged because their loved one is mired in an emotional crisis or emotional paralysis. They vividly remember the times they felt debilitated because their own emotions got in the way of affirmative action. As a result, 358s prefer the power that comes from action and mental constructs even at the expense of their emotions. They are naturally more adept at using their will center and mental center. They see their ability to go into action and use a mind over matter approach to life as much more reliable than the inconstancy of the heart. They prefer the world of logic, thoughts, actions and willfulness, over the world of feelings and emotions. Instead of offering sympathy, they offer strategies.

    They respect those that overcome obstacles and they admire those that develop the confidence that ensues as a result of overcoming adversity. They want their loved ones to learn how to provide for themselves so that they will have the confidence and know-how that comes from succeeding by learning from failures. They show love by teaching them how to provide for themselves and/or by providing resources for those in their circle of care rather than offering sentiment. But more specifically, they demonstrate love by teaching loved ones how to survive and make it on their own not matter what life throws at them.
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  10. #19
    Unknown

    The master, conqueror descriptions might be to the taste of 385s or 835s but for 853s like myself and maybe, some of the 5 core tritypes, I find them annoying examples of delusions of grandeur. But yeah, Entrepreneurs doesn't cover it either since it's a narrow band of one possibility.
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  11. #20
    Type 7w8

    Quote Originally Posted by Duo View Post
    The master, conqueror descriptions might be to the taste of 385s or 835s but for 853s like myself and maybe, some of the 5 core tritypes, I find them annoying examples of delusions of grandeur. But yeah, Entrepreneurs doesn't cover it either since it's a narrow band of one possibility.
    Its really confusing seeing this new kitten talking about conquerors and masters and power of 358s. Are these kittens you use as avatars yours?

    Anyway this is a hard bargain because the OP probably doesnt want to use more than two words in each tri-type. Probably prefers to use one actually. And its hard to find one word to contain all of that.
    I actually believe 358s could be more "Kings" or "Rulers" and 378s more "Entrepreneurs" by the meaning.


     
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