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This is a discussion on Sakinorva Rheti test within the Enneagram Personality Theory Forum forums, part of the Personality Type Forums category; Originally Posted by Ocean Helm This isn't comfortable ?...

  1. #41

    Quote Originally Posted by Ocean Helm View Post
    This isn't comfortable

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  2. #42
    Type 6w7

    Quote Originally Posted by Vaka View Post
    https://sakinorva.net/test/rheti
    I stumbled upon this test and I'm not sure if it's been posted here before. If it has, I apologize, but otherwise, I'm curious what other peoples' results are and if they're accurate.
    Honestly... Much of these seem like very arbitrary dichotomies, or at least dichotomies that could easily be interpreted more than one way. There's so many that I'm reading going, "I'm honestly 50/50" or "I'm literally neither." For the first 50 questions, I kinda wanted to bash my head in with these, although I (finally) realized maybe they're not all either/or dichotomies...

    Other questions leave me wondering what context, or how much context I should ascribe to it. #116 is a great example: "Being of service and attending to the needs of others has been a high priority for me" OR "Finding alternative ways of seeing and doing things has been a high priority for me." Context assumes B means primarily social, except that it IS a high priority to me to see/do things "differently," but that context is largely based on keeping an open mind, not on adapting to the social situation of the moment.

    Pretty typical results for me: 5w4 or 9w1 INTP/INxP, because obviously the only people who do these things are 459 INxxs, and all IxTx are 5s. I never test as my proper type(s), though, so I'm a little jaded, sorry xD

    since a lot of INFJs are more Pish than MBTI tests account for
    I dislike the MBTI's description of J/P. I'm not as big into debating and I blend systems a lot... But just to weigh in a little, I'm convinced that there's many misconceptions of Introverted Perception CFs. I see myself very much in the "IxxP temperament," which makes complete sense to me because I'm an N-dom. I'm sure there are INxJs (Ni-dom) which relate to the "IJ temperament," but they should be fewer. They're probably mistyped, a lot of J-doms posing as P-doms (the opposite no doubt exists, as well).

    I suppose mistyping in itself doesn't matter, but it has the tendency to blur the definitions and create confusion.

  3. #43
    Type 5w4

    Well I couldn't not respond, sorry.
    Quote Originally Posted by Paradigm View Post
    I dislike the MBTI's description of J/P. I'm not as big into debating and I blend systems a lot...
    You took the initiative to blend systems and create your own.
    But just to weigh in a little, I'm convinced that there's many misconceptions of Introverted Perception CFs.
    Misconceptions = they don't agree with the system you created?
    I see myself very much in the "IxxP temperament," which makes complete sense to me because I'm an N-dom.
    This makes sense.
    I'm sure there are INxJs (Ni-dom) which relate to the "IJ temperament," but they should be fewer.
    Agreed.
    They're probably mistyped, a lot of J-doms posing as P-doms (the opposite no doubt exists, as well).
    Maybe they're not "posing" or suffering from misconceptions, but they just are using something different than you're using?
    I suppose mistyping in itself doesn't matter, but it has the tendency to blur the definitions and create confusion.
    Says the person who openly blends MBTI and Socionics, cognitive functions, etc. I see you as a contributor to this "problem".

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  5. #44
    Type 6w7

    Quote Originally Posted by Ocean Helm View Post
    Says the person who openly blends MBTI and Socionics, cognitive functions, etc. I see you as a contributor to this "problem".
    I mean, feeling's probably mutual in different ways, but such is life. I'd try to clarify things, but I doubt we'd make any headway or reach any understanding since you went with the worst possible interpretations right off the bat.

    We could easily worst-interpret each other all day, which sounds tiring and kinda boring.

    If this were any other subforum, or even thread really, I'd try harder to stick to that subforum's topic... Or I'd state context and my own biases as I did here. (Which were similar to OP's, as far as I read.) Since this is not those specific subforums, yup, I'll be a little more relaxed.

  6. #45
    Unknown

    rheti enneagram type9

    (with wing) 9w1calculated

    "tritype"
    459

    most likely myers-briggs type (raw)
    INFP

    most likely myers-briggs type (comparative)
    INFP

  7. #46
    Type 4w5

    Screenshot_2019-03-04 rheti enneagram test.jpg

    I'm not sure why the calculated Tritype is shown as "4x1" rather than "41x" (with the numerical tie falling between 5 & 6 for Head). Surprisingly this is one of very few instruments that has returned "INFP" for my best-fit MBTI type (usually come back as INFJ), which I do believe is my best-fit type.

  8. #47
    Type 5w4

    Quote Originally Posted by Paradigm View Post
    I mean, feeling's probably mutual in different ways, but such is life. I'd try to clarify things, but I doubt we'd make any headway or reach any understanding since you went with the worst possible interpretations right off the bat.

    We could easily worst-interpret each other all day, which sounds tiring and kinda boring.

    If this were any other subforum, or even thread really, I'd try harder to stick to that subforum's topic... Or I'd state context and my own biases as I did here. (Which were similar to OP's, as far as I read.) Since this is not those specific subforums, yup, I'll be a little more relaxed.
    Well I guess, how else was I supposed to interpret it?

    When people seem to be lamenting others not using the same "prism" to separate people into types that they use themselves (implying it's the others' fault), it just seems like a typical pot/kettle situation. Especially when their own prism was built by meshing things together.

    If everyone is going through this build-your-own prism process then confusion between people is almost going to be guaranteed as viewpoints will differ based on one's own experiences, biases, focuses, etc.

    In contrast, Sakinorva is more or less informally adhering to an external standard (that of MBTI), using answers to determine letter preferences. The idea that what you have typed yourself using your own system is more "proper" or whatever outside of your perspective, is bogus.
    Last edited by Ocean Helm; 03-04-2019 at 06:00 PM.

  9. #48
    Type 7w6

    Screenshot (8).jpg

    Pretty accurate. I don't know my tritype, so I can't judge whether that part is accurate. But the rest is consistent with what I believe my type is.

  10. #49
    Type 6w7

    Quote Originally Posted by Ocean Helm View Post
    Well I guess, how else was I supposed to interpret it?

    When people seem to be lamenting others not using the same "prism" to separate people into types that they use themselves, it just seems like a typical pot/kettle situation. Especially when their own prism was built by meshing things together.

    If everyone is going through this build-your-own prism process then confusion between people is almost going to be guaranteed as viewpoints will differ based on one's own experiences, biases, focuses, etc.
    Ah, right. I just didn't go into much detail so there wasn't really much to criticize aside from what you assumed. But you did choose to take my usage of "posing" poorly, which I'll admit wasn't the best word choice on my part but it wasn't a word I chose with a negative intention, either.

    My "prism" nowadays, as far as MBTI/CFs/Socionics/Keirsey/etc, tends more towards Socionics. And, broadly speaking, the "prisms" I take issue with are those which I find superficial or biased. (I know, "I find," annoyingly subjective.) Not, as much, the definition-based prisms, but rather the sort which say Sensors are all dumb, or Ni is the source of all power, etc. I borrow a little from "CFs" because my usage of Socionics terminology is rusty/beginnerish-as-hell, and I can 'translate' into letter dichotomies, just depends. But yeah, I find most things I'm talking about to be somewhere in Socionics, so maybe I should just make the switch. The CF community here is much easier to get "into," though...

    In contrast, Sakinorva is more or less informally adhering to an external standard (that of MBTI), using answers to determine letter preferences. The idea that what you have typed yourself using your own system is more "proper" or whatever outside of your perspective, is bogus.
    ...I would be interested to know which questions score on which types...

    But yeah, my system probably isn't as blended as you seem to think. I'll defer MBTI/CFs to you for now; Enneagram is more my jam, anyways. The older works of Enneagram are really interesting, especially if you notice how some types' identifiers got moved or switched with other types'. That's why I tend to see certain Enneagram types "differently," since it's often a little more divorced from MBTI than most people here work with, and it's based on a generation before the mainstream. In any case, I will say that combining systems to Type with is bad practice, imo. There's patterns but no guarantees, so the conflation leads people astray. I suppose that's my biggest gripe about this test.

    I could ramble on about Enneagram, but I get the impression you don't care as much about it, so I'll stop here :P
    Last edited by Paradigm; 03-05-2019 at 01:32 AM.
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  11. #50
    Type 6w7

    Quote Originally Posted by Im FiNe View Post
    I'm not sure why the calculated Tritype is shown as "4x1" rather than "41x" (with the numerical tie falling between 5 & 6 for Head).
    It seems to list the order of Heart-Head-Gut (or Shame-Fear-Anger, if you prefer) regardless of core type or scoring. Unless I missed someone who did have their not-a-heart-type type listed first?
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