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This is a discussion on SP Dominant people, how do YOU know your primary instinct is Self-Preservation? within the Enneagram Personality Theory Forum forums, part of the Personality Type Forums category; Originally Posted by AnneM Marvin, why does it have to be warm, and why do you need any bed, let ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by AnneM View Post
    Marvin, why does it have to be warm, and why do you need any bed, let alone a decent one?

    I'm ahead of you in this regard.
    I like my creature comforts up to a point. A 4-inch futon is plenty. I grew up someplace ball-freezing and have grown to appreciate warmth.
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    Type 2w3

    Quote Originally Posted by Marvin the Dendroid View Post
    I like my creature comforts up to a point. A 4-inch futon is plenty. I grew up someplace ball-freezing and have grown to appreciate warmth.
    I shall be the better saint.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AnneM View Post
    I shall be the better saint.
    Tbh I don't avoid possessions and comforts to be saintly, I just plain don't like them. I like beauty you can't own - landscapes, sea shores, cityscapes, women.

    My saintly qualities are entirely non-physical. Cleaning your bathroom while you're away visiting in-laws, listening quietly so you get to talk, looking you in the eyes so you feel a little less lonely. Not to mention hugs.
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    Type 2w3

    Quote Originally Posted by Marvin the Dendroid View Post
    Tbh I don't avoid possessions and comforts to be saintly, I just plain don't like them. .
    Oh, I'm totes in it for the glory and that golden crown, not to mention an incorruptible body so I can freak people the fuck out:

    Bernadette_Soubirous-sarcophagus-2.jpg
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    Quote Originally Posted by AnneM View Post
    Oh, I'm totes in it for the glory and that golden crown, not to mention an incorruptible body so I can freak people the fuck out:
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  7. #46

    Quote Originally Posted by Marvin the Dendroid View Post
    Equating survival with SP never made any sense to me. The instincts only make sense to me as a way to explain what kind of energy you instinctively focus on, something like...

    SP = your own energy
    SO = group energy
    SX = sexual energy (which doesn't have to be sexual ... it's based on sexuality but could focus on work etc.)

    I can imagine how an SP-first ISTP might focus on survival and possessions and whatnot, but to me as an INFJ, it's more about being focused on what my Ni is up to, that internal universe of dazzling lights.
    So this is what makes most sense to me and how I usually think of instincts, more or less.

    Heart types make it really confusing though, even the most introverted INTJ sp/sx 3w4 will still be essentially focused on who they are in eyes of other people, focus on themselves as someone who can get validation rather than just on themselves by themselves and for themselves.
    The problem gets even worse with 2 and 4, especially 2.

    I feel like I understand the way it works, how the self focused energy can apply regardless of type, but only in very vague terms and pretty much just enough to know that according to every other sp definition I'm sp blind and according to this particular one my gut tells me I'm sp even though it's difficult to directly experience my own sp-ness in sp-ish terms, ultimately what I can say about it is:
    a)As a child I was sp, don't even need to define sp to know it
    b)So dom seems ridiculous when I think about it more and sx seems like it should be right, but it just feels kinda meh and insubstantial, I mean there is a definite string of sx woven throughout my entire life but it doesn't feel like the thing (so I guess by process of elimination it's sp?)


    Would be great if someone with better Ti than mine could sort out my thoughts for me
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    Quote Originally Posted by sweet morphine View Post
    Would be great if someone with better Ti than mine could sort out my thoughts for me
    Maybe you have a fairly even distribution of them, 40/30/30 SP/SX/SO?

    It is difficult enough for me to fathom what life looks like for an extrovert, never mind an SP-first extrovert. I guess there must be a contradiction in there somewhere, some conserving of your energy and prioritising your own needs over those of others. Although the instincts, enneatypes and MB types are separate layers, they tend not to be entirely randomly combined - there's a reason you won't find many INFP 8s or ESTJ 2s.
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  9. #48

    Quote Originally Posted by Merkurin View Post
    Where did you find those gifs, if you don't mind me asking?
    tenor.com

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    Type 9

    Quote Originally Posted by Marvin the Dendroid View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Merkurin View Post
    Where did you find those gifs, if you don't mind me asking?
    tenor.com
    Thanks:)
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    Type 9

    Quote Originally Posted by mistakenforstranger View Post




    Have you seen this movie? I believe the main character is sp/sx.

     



    I know this movie too and it highly resonated with me. Also always wanted to pack up and live alone somewhere alone in nature for a while. It`s still something I wanna do someday, just not as long as he did, maybe for one or two monts or so.

    But I think the main character could as well be a so called "antisocial" social subtype, because he seems to still be quite concerned about what is going on in society, how it is doing and so on, I could easily see him as a social 4, which is a type very critical and possibly resentful and hateful of society, defining themselves as outside the system whilst simultaneusly constantly tracking society and its actions. But then again, I could see him as SP as well and, also, it`s a long time since I watched this movie, so I don`t remember the plot exactly.
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