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This is a discussion on Tritype Pairs within the Enneagram Personality Theory Forum forums, part of the Personality Type Forums category; Originally Posted by Karkino 258 are sexy in their own way! I should know because I'm with one! Ok, sexiness ...

  1. #11
    Type 2w3

    Quote Originally Posted by Karkino View Post
    258 are sexy in their own way! I should know because I'm with one!
    Ok, sexiness aside, tell me: how does her desire for power manifest? What does she even desire to have power over? I'm wracking my brain over here.

    I do have strange flare-ups which almost seem maniacal, but they never last long. Like when I was going to "take over the local library board." I burn out really fast, though. There's nothing that I care enough about to want to have power over it.....

    Oh, except the entire male gender.

    And also: God. But obviously I can see it's a fool's game to try and have any power over God. I do think most of my reclusive plotting has to do with figuring out how I can get into Heaven on my own terms...
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  2. #12
    Type 4w5

    Quote Originally Posted by AnneM View Post
    Ok, sexiness aside, tell me: how does her desire for power manifest? What does she even desire to have power over? I'm wracking my brain over here.

    I do have strange flare-ups which almost seem maniacal, but they never last long. Like when I was going to "take over the local library board." I burn out really fast, though. There's nothing that I care enough about to want to have power over it.....

    Oh, except the entire male gender.

    And also: God. But obviously I can see it's a fool's game to try and have any power over God. I do think most of my reclusive plotting has to do with figuring out how I can get into Heaven on my own terms...

    Well, she's a he, but that's not the point right now.

    Here's a core 8 though, so the main motivations might not be the same as yours. I'd say core 2s with 258 tritype want power in order to feel needed and conceal their pride more easily. This tritype give 2s an acute sensitivity to rejection, which they perceive as a lack of power and potential loss of control. They want people to respect them, but sometime give mixed messages (warm, then distant, then oppositional) which can give them a hard-to-read personality. I'd say it's really hard for 258 to let go of their defensive attitude and be more accepting of outside help.

    Also, I can totally see 258 wanting to play God, as they can be vengeful and self-righteous at times. They also want to be indispensable for others in one way or another, which is very observable with a core 2 enneatype.

  3. #13
    Type 2w3

    Quote Originally Posted by Karkino View Post
    Well, she's a he, but that's not the point right now.
    God bless my Ni! I think I knew that even as I was writing "she"!

    I'd say core 2s with 258 tritype want power in order to feel needed and conceal their pride more easily. This tritype give 2s an acute sensitivity to rejection, which they perceive as a lack of power and potential loss of control. They want people to respect them, but sometime give mixed messages (warm, then distant, then oppositional) which can give them a hard-to-read personality. I'd say it's really hard for 258 to let go of their defensive attitude and be more accepting of outside help.
    Yes, these are all things I'm conscious of (now) and actively working on. I've found that brutal honesty about myself with other people is really the easiest way. I'm not sure I can change these things about myself, but I can let everyone know whom they're dealing with. Like telling everyone while you're in human form that you will become a werewolf under certain circumstances.

    PerC is actually helping me a lot, especially with the "sensitivity to rejection." Just realizing, "Hey, everybody doesn't have to like me in order for me to feel ok."

    Anything else you think of regarding this tritype, I would greatly appreciate hearing! I will accept your outside help!
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  5. #14
    Type 4w5

    Quote Originally Posted by AnneM View Post
    God bless my Ni! I think I knew that even as I was writing "she"!



    Yes, these are all things I'm conscious of (now) and actively working on. I've found that brutal honesty about myself with other people is really the easiest way. I'm not sure I can change these things about myself, but I can let everyone know whom they're dealing with. Like telling everyone while you're in human form that you will become a werewolf under certain circumstances.

    PerC is actually helping me a lot, especially with the "sensitivity to rejection." Just realizing, "Hey, everybody doesn't have to like me in order for me to feel ok."

    Anything else you think of regarding this tritype, I would greatly appreciate hearing! I will accept your outside help!
    Thanks! I don't have much else to say about that tritype but Katherine Fauvre said in one of her podcasts that 369, 147 and 258 tritypes don't identify much with their wings, especially 1s with 147, 8s with 258 and 3, 6 and 9 with 369. it that your case too?
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  6. #15
    Type 2w1

    @Karkino any advice about determining between 27x tritypes?))

  7. #16
    Type 4w5

    Quote Originally Posted by Dangerose View Post
    @Karkino any advice about determining between 27x tritypes?))
    First, I think you should be pretty confident about your core type and wing. This is the most important, without this, you could be jumping from tritype to tritypes for ages. I you can also determine your dominant instinct, that might be helping to, since some instinctual variant can change the typical behavior of the enneatype.

    Second, look at the two other fixes you might have ; one of them is generally stronger and more noticeable. Ask yourself and someone close to you how you react and behave when
    A. you get anxious, dealing with insecurity or instability in your environment (Head fix);
    B. you try asserting yourself or defending your physical space/beliefs (Gut fix);
    C. you deal with social issues like shame or envy and how you try to approach people (Heart fix).

    If you know your core type, then one center will already be easy to fill in. Determining other two fixes might get a bit tricky for a number of reasons :

    A. You have a wing in a different center than your core type. This can happen if your 1w2, 2w1, 4w5, 5w4, 7w8 and 8w7. If that's the case, most of the time (but not always) if it's a particularly strong wing, then it becomes also the fix. So a 4w5 like me has a good chance of having also a 5 fix. In the event of having another fix than the wing, the two energies are often weak or conflicting with each other. I'll take me as an example : my 5 wing interferes with my 7 fix and vice versa because I like to go deep into subjects and retreat into my mind (5), but at the same time I want variety and change (7). I both deal with anxiety in two different directions : by observing my environment and ignoring the pain, focusing on fun things. I is very difficult to sort out your wing with a fix it they're different. You might even think your core type is your wing sometimes.

    B. You have a particular dominant instinct that doesn't fit your core enneatype. For example, a social 5 can look a bit more extroverted than a self-preservation 5 and consequently can look like a 7. You really have to know your dominant instinct if it's the case.

    C. You are a core 9 or 6. These two enneatypes can surprisingly indentify with a lot of different numbers. emotional 6s tend to idientify as 4s, counterphobic 6s with 8, social 6s as 1s, congenial 6s with 2, etc. As for 9s, they can identify with all other types because they can easily take over the overall atmosphere that they're in. social 9s are also known to look like 3s and sexual 9s may look a bit like 4s.
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  8. #17
    Type 2w3

    Quote Originally Posted by Karkino View Post
    Thanks! I don't have much else to say about that tritype but Katherine Fauvre said in one of her podcasts that 369, 147 and 258 tritypes don't identify much with their wings, especially 1s with 147, 8s with 258 and 3, 6 and 9 with 369. it that your case too?
    As in, I wouldn't identify with my 3 wing as a 2w3? Because I definitely identify with my 3 wing! It's intense.
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  9. #18
    Type 4w5

    Quote Originally Posted by AnneM View Post
    As in, I wouldn't identify with my 3 wing as a 2w3? Because I definitely identify with my 3 wing! It's intense.
    Maybe this only applies to 8s with 258 tritypes, since 2 and 5 are linked to 8?
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  10. #19
    Type 2w3

    Quote Originally Posted by Karkino View Post
    Maybe this only applies to 8s with 258 tritypes, since 2 and 5 are linked to 8?
    Ah, that makes sense.
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