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    Sp/Sx and Sx/Sp, how do you experience the Social Instinct?

    1) How do you typically interact in a group?
    2) Do you feel a sense of community? If yes, explain.
    3) How many friends do you have?
    4) Do you have any interest in political or social issues?
    5) How do you handle office politics?
    6) When working in a team, how do you interact?
    7) Do you keep track of a wide range of organizations or contacts?



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    @Swordsman of Mana
    sx/sp

    1) How do you typically interact in a group?
    Depends on the group. If it's an engaging group of people intent on discussing or doing things that engage me, I am quite lively and...well, engaged. Otherwise, I am disengaged or I try to steer the conversation towards something that will interest me. If it's in my interest, I will just leave and find something else to do.

    2) Do you feel a sense of community? If yes, explain.
    If I am working on a team, and we are all in-step towards the same goal, sure. Otherwise, not really.

    3) How many friends do you have?
    Close friends, a few. More acquaintancy friends, many.

    4) Do you have any interest in political or social issues?
    Mildly in some. It can be interesting to stir the pot just for the hell of it. Mostly, I just don't mind being the lone dissenter in situations where I can't see doing so being a disadvantage to myself.

    5) How do you handle office politics?
    I stay out of it as much as I can. I'm not a very political person.

    6) When working in a team, how do you interact?
    Depends on the team. If we're all working towards the same goal and intent on getting shit done, I work well. Otherwise, I don't.

    7) Do you keep track of a wide range of organizations or contacts?
    Yeah, but it's a chore. I do it out of necessity.

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    1) How do you typically interact in a group?
    I have a poor sense of communication balance when in a group, typically talking too much and not knowing when to speak.

    2) Do you feel a sense of community? If yes, explain.
    no

    3) How many friends do you have?
    very few. maybe 5 tops

    4) Do you have any interest in political or social issues?
    to some degree. I'm staunchly libertarian.

    5) How do you handle office politics?
    I'm oblivious to them.

    6) When working in a team, how do you interact?
    I'm actually fairly good on teams, tending to generate lots of ideas, come up with plans of action and delegate work well. cooperation comes more naturally to me than competition because team members are able to cover each other's weaknesses

    7) Do you keep track of a wide range of organizations or contacts?
    currently: no
    in the future: I'm gonna have to. it will probably take awhile to adjust



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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsman of Mana View Post
    1) How do you typically interact in a group?
    2) Do you feel a sense of community? If yes, explain.
    3) How many friends do you have?
    4) Do you have any interest in political or social issues?
    5) How do you handle office politics?
    6) When working in a team, how do you interact?
    7) Do you keep track of a wide range of organizations or contacts?
    sp/sx

    1. Very awkwardly, regardless of who it is. It could be a group of close friends, or a group of strangers, and I'd still feel uncomfortable. Moreso in the latter though, of course. I need to be one-on-one when spending time with people, preferably. Three's make me feel out of place and left out, and 4s are too many.

    2. Not really. I find it difficult to find anyone I can relate to in real life. And having alike minds is what would make me feel a sense of community.

    3. Basically none in real life. Not kept in contact with any after I left school. A fair few online though, and I've met several of them. Best friend is someone I met online then in person.

    4. None whatsoever. If someone starts talking to me about them I zone out. I know literally nothing about them, so I couldn't even contribute in a conversation of the topic.

    5. Anything with the word 'politics' I pay no mind to lol.

    6. Even if I have ideas to contribute, I tend to keep my mouth shut in fear of embarrassment or rejection. I'll talk if directly asked for ideas, though. Worst part is when I'm stuck with a bunch of delinquents who mess around the whole time then piece something together last second which I end up uncomfortable with.

    7. Nope.
    Last edited by Thief Noctis; 07-14-2013 at 05:34 PM.
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    Type 6w7


    o.o this will be fun, I still have no idea of my stacking, thou So/Sx has been brought up a lot. here are my answers:

    1) How do you typically interact in a group?
    Not well. I don't tend to feel part of groups and my communication is limited to one on one with a few members from various groups. I care more about the individual and dislike it when group values prevail over mine or that of any other person (must be my Fi).
    2) Do you feel a sense of community? If yes, explain.
    No, not really. I usually feel like an outsider. I feel community or a bond with the people I like, thou they tend to be from different groups.
    3) How many friends do you have?
    Few, I can count them on one hand.
    4) Do you have any interest in political or social issues?
    I have a vested interest in my values, whoever or whatever stands in my way will be on my radar, other then that no, I stand for no specific political side, I just am who I am. I stand for my values.
    5) How do you handle office politics?
    I'm aware of most of it and will ignore as much of it as possible. I don't like getting involved and I don't like where it leads. They can have their petty squabbles if it makes them happy.
    6) When working in a team, how do you interact?
    I support the team, sometimes I end up leading by example (the stuff most others won't try for whatever reason), but I prefer to stay in the background and pull my weight. Teams only work if the people involved do their part as best they can, so I do mine.
    7) Do you keep track of a wide range of organizations or contacts?
    Nope. Neither. I don't really understand the benefit of this.
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    Type 1w2


    7w8 Sp/Sx. I'll answer a few of these and add comments below:

    2) Do you feel a sense of community? If yes, explain.
    • I would call it "community," but it's actually more of a fraternal or "circle" thing. Sp 7's and most 8's both tend to want to provide for "their people" in a patriarchal way and that creates a sense of community - but not community on a grand scale. There's very little interest in how everyone else would respond to something I do or say - it is what it is, fact is fact, and let that create or transform community as it stands.


    4) Do you have any interest in political or social issues?
    • This is actually a really interesting question. No, not at all. I pay so much attention to guaranteeing I'll always have independence and necessary resources that there's almost no time to even realize what's going on outside. I don't even try to talk politics or current events with people. I'll talk about good restaurants, travel, what I think of someone, or relationships for hours - but things like politics, television (I don't even watch it), movies, or even something like economics makes me go silent/actually cut the convo off.


    5) How do you handle office politics?
    • By blocking it out and doing what needs to be done without paying attention to it. The focus is on getting the end result, not how you get there.


    6) When working in a team, how do you interact?
    • Another good question. It depends on how competitive the team is. I'm too autonomous to see it as a "work together" sort of setting - I have to have my own turf, if that's a niche or actually grabbing ahold of the team as a whole if there's a hole in leadership. The desire is still to contribute and be helpful - but on my own terms.



    In general, a lot of people say Sp doms are selfish, and that isn't the case. It's that the attention goes to your own practical sense of being, and that isn't any different than demanding intimacy or demanding community. It's still a fixation like the other two. For an Sp/Sx, the focus goes first to "are we taken care of practically," then "let's really connect." If you have what you need and who you love, there's no reason to need community.

    As a personal aside, my philosophy is that I am very much in control of my own destiny as an individual. I love my people and wouldn't leave them, but if they left me, I'd be fine. There's always the belief that "whatever it takes, I'll do it even if it's alone," and I've had to actually do that enough times to actually like the challenge of it. Even emotionally, it's the burn of being human.
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    Type 9w8

    sx/sp

    1) How do you typically interact in a group?
    -I can do fine in groups, but people seem to notice that I tend to come off as distant, bored, or not fully present. And even in groups, I find that I start gravitating to or attracting one or two people rather than maintaining connection with the whole group.

    2) Do you feel a sense of community? If yes, explain.
    -Not particularly, no. The closest thing I can derive to that would be if I had really strong connections with people who all happen to associate with each other.

    3) How many friends do you have?
    - A few. I have many acquaintances that I don't feel particularly invested in, though.

    4) Do you have any interest in political or social issues?
    -I do have political interests, and I adopt whatever issues suit my beliefs and interests more often than not.

    5) How do you handle office politics?
    -Watch from afar and only get involved if necessary.

    6) When working in a team, how do you interact?
    -I either take a leadership role or I do my own thing, if not both.

    7) Do you keep track of a wide range of organizations or contacts?
    -For networking and resource purposes, sure. But like I said, I'm not particularly invested and it's kind of boring or suffocating at times.
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    Type 7w8

    So/Sx

    1) How do you typically interact in a group?
    I like to be actively involved in any given conversation that goes on. I don't have to lead the conversation, but I like to be a part of it.
    2) Do you feel a sense of community? If yes, explain.
    Not really. I see too many differences between people I'm around to see us as a complete community.
    3) How many friends do you have?
    I have countless acquaintances, and some of them you might call friends. But I have few close friends.
    4) Do you have any interest in political or social issues?
    I have very strong political and social views, but I don't have a very big interest in becoming a politician or something like that.
    5) How do you handle office politics?
    I try to stay uninvolved, but if someone messes with me directly I have no issue with taking them out.
    6) When working in a team, how do you interact?
    I'll pick up a responsibility and role in the group. If no one capable steps up to be a leader I'll lead.
    7) Do you keep track of a wide range of organizations or contacts?
    I guess? I don't know.





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    Unknown


    I think I'm sx/sp, but some would say sx/so (fyi)

    1) How do you typically interact in a group?

    If I can help it, I don't. It all kinda makes my head spin. Go off into a corner with my favorite person or coupla people, make jokes about the herd.

    2) Do you feel a sense of community? If yes, explain.

    Uhhhmm.. I haven't even spoken to most of my neighbors. Only the hot one, and those in my actual building in passing.

    3) How many friends do you have?

    irl I know two people, but this is still a new city. In the city I lived in longest in the past coupla years I had four friends.

    4) Do you have any interest in political or social issues?

    Social issues, yes. I was a sociology major, and I have a deep interest in how media affects culture.

    5) How do you handle office politics?

    Ugh. No thanks. People want to make simple jobs harder with drama to feel like their lives aren't as meaningless - count me out of that shit.

    6) When working in a team, how do you interact?

    Lead or stay silent.

    7) Do you keep track of a wide range of organizations or contacts?

    I lose contact with most people, only a few stick. From time to time I will resurface or they will.
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    Type 4w5

    I'm SX/SP

    1) How do you typically interact in a group?
    I tend to hover and listen, then jump in on a subject that interests me. I make jokes, offer stories. I'm no where near being a life of the party, but I'm fine.

    2) Do you feel a sense of community? If yes, explain.
    Not exactly, I feel things are more as a dynamic of individuals. When I view something as a community, I always view myself as the rogue.

    3) How many friends do you have?
    This is a tricky question, I know a lot of people, but sometimes it feels like I don't have any friends at all. Right now, I feel like I have 1. But I understand this is my personal definition of friend. If I was asked offhandedly, I'd say 12 or so people that I feel like I could call up.

    4) Do you have any interest in political or social issues?
    Oh, I have feelings about how things should be. But I tend not to treat things as issues for me to address, unless it's something happening right in front of me.

    5) How do you handle office politics?
    I don't, I deal with problems as I face them. I try to understand the politics of the situation, but I don't try to deal with them as a whole. Instead, I ride them, exploit them, avoid them.

    6) When working in a team, how do you interact?
    Fine. I keep aware of what people are up to, I take pulling my own weight seriously. I don't rally people much, unless it's necessary.

    7) Do you keep track of a wide range of organizations or contacts?
    Nope.


     
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