Blind Spot vs. Secondary Instinct "Recklessness"

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    Blind Spot vs. Secondary Instinct "Recklessness"

    I've had a recurring thought over the last week that the way in which we are reckless might be a hint as to what our stacking is. I'll try to keep it short for once... this is my thinking:

    Blind spot recklessness: Real recklessness; you are reckless in this area because it doesn't even cross your mind. An so-last might commit big time social faux-pas, an sp last might often sleep with their contact lenses in, get black-out drunk, etc.

    Secondary instinct recklessness: although it can be quite daring, this is more of a calculated recklessness. In fact, it might be the illusion of it; they often know what they are doing. For instance, travelling solo at a young age; I've done it yet I carefully planned every detail, was very careful. Or, doing some kind of "risky" sport or activity: someone descending a hill on a bicycle going 60-70 km/h, yet being completely aware of the dangers, constantly scanning ahead of them.

    Anyways, just a thought. Do you think it has legs?
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    @thwoomp
    I'm reckless in the area of primary instinct first and foremost




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    I'm not sure why you chose the reckless angle. I don't feel reckless as an so-last - I tend to avoid it because I'm not very confident of my abilities there. I might be more reckless with my secondary instinct but I think that's because I feel more confident with it.

    I guess for what you're calling being reckless, for me has to do with my level of confidence. Being reckless I see as taking risks or chances in order to attain something you want - in which case it would have to do with my primary instinct.
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    Quote Originally Posted by enneathusiast View Post
    I'm not sure why you chose the reckless angle. I don't feel reckless as an so-last - I tend to avoid it because I'm not very confident of my abilities there. I might be more reckless with my secondary instinct but I think that's because I feel more confident with it.

    I guess for what you're calling being reckless, for me has to do with my level of confidence. Being reckless I see as taking risks or chances in order to attain something you want - in which case it would have to do with my primary instinct.
    You are right, that was a poor choice of words... I typed this out quickly over breakfast. I think "careless" is actually more accurate in what I'm talking about. You are careless towards things you dont think about. So, an so-last might carelessly not attempt to fit in in some way. In a way reckless might describe the appearance of the behaviour to people who are more aware of that instinct.

    For instance, I consider it reckless when my friend sleeps with his contact lenses in, but for him it is carelessness - he doesn't think that there may be consequences so he does it. I guess recklessness implies that you are aware of the risk. Carelessness means you aren't aware that there is a risk.

    @Swordsman of Mana I can see where you are coming from; your primary instinct can compel you to ignore those nagging concerns in the back of your head, and follow it and it alone.
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    Type 9w8

    For me primary is my focus point, and also the one that can be most unbalanced at times and also cause the most issues when out of balance because I pay attention here. It's a pre-occupation.

    Secondary is something that is neither neglected nor the cause of major issues, it's subdued.

    Last is something that I pay no attention and consider boring to focus on. I'm not reckless there, that implies some kind of deliberate action, I simply don't care. I haven't killed myself from not paying attention to Sp needs, they still exist in my life, I just do not value them and consider them more of an annoyance than anything. I would say neglectful fits better than reckless because even if the results seem reckless to others... I don't value them enough to deem it reckless.

    With that in mind, I agree with the overall point you are hitting on.
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    @Sonny
    Thanks, that is very helpful. Also, I'm glad you were able to see my point as I know it can be difficult with some of my rambles! I often think up specific scenarios to describe and understand specific things, and they end up looking very two-dimensional as a result. I suppose I should aim to tinker on them more and integrate them with the bigger picture.

    I'm realizing now that with this scenario I'm somewhat trying to flesh out the role of the secondary instinct. The primary is the motivation, the blind spot is unnoticed... so where does the secondary fit? "THE resource thread" almost seems to suggest that the secondary instinct is the most stable and capable instinct of the three - "a creative field that envelopes [you]." Since there is awareness without fixation, when one does engage their secondary instinct they will be capable of being very calculating. I don't think I can control and calculate with my primary instinct - it is something I can't help but follow.

    When I explore my secondary instinct - exercising, travelling, it is enjoyable yet relaxing. I'm detached from it, yet can also take great pleasure from it. In theory it almost seems the optimal instinct in a way, with it alone I could live "la dolce vita." The trouble is, for me, then someone awesome walks into my life, SX takes over, and all hell breaks loose.
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    Type 9w1

    I can see this, actually. As sp-last I feel like I just don't get life, lol. I do all kinds of stuff that goes against what you're SUPPOSED to do like falling asleep with the TV on every night (I program it to sleep after an hour but I didn't always :P), sleeping in my clothes, drink too much alcohol or caffeine, forget to remove my makeup before bed or just not do it if I do remember 'cause I can't be bothered, shower every other day or multiple times a day, etc. I also have a really hard time feeling comfortable and "at home" anywhere. I need someone ELSE to sort of make up a nest for me to live in. When I lived on my own I'd either get overly obsessive about cleaning and decorating my room or just neglect it completely. At one point I let my room get so trashed that I slept on the couch in the living room for a week until my roommate threw a tantrum, lol. And just in general, I'm not too great at taking care of myself. :P

    As for sx recklessness, I can see how other people would view the way I handle attachments as reckless, but I feel like I know what I'm doing? I know when someone just doesn't and can't mesh with me and when there's no spark.
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    I get what you mean but I'm not inclined to agree with it.

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    Hmm, I'm trying to figure out how sx as blindspot can manifest as a recklessness.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nonsense View Post
    Hmm, I'm trying to figure out how sx as blindspot can manifest as a recklessness.
    It is quite hard to understand other stackings, but I feel it might manifest as an insensitivity towards others' desires for connection, intimacy. Not necessarily romantic but interpersonal.

    I know with myself some people can kind of brush me off even though I'm trying to connect with them. I'd say my manager is sp/so, and I used to get offended with how distant he is, but I realized he is like that to everyone. It just doesn't register with him; I feel this might be how it is with sx lasts.
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