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This is a discussion on The Contemplative 459/549/945 tri type: What do you guys do with you lives? within the Enneagram Personality Theory Forum forums, part of the Personality Type Forums category; Originally Posted by Draki Hello, I'm probably a 5w4 4w5 9w1 INTP (sp/so). I study Computer Science and it includes ...

  1. #11
    Type 4w5

    Quote Originally Posted by Draki View Post
    Hello,
    I'm probably a 5w4 4w5 9w1 INTP (sp/so).
    I study Computer Science and it includes learning foreign languages as well.

    "I like to discover other cultures and to live in another country. In my life I would like to discover the world and I like to write down my observations.
    I'm often contemplating about all kind of problems. "

    Relate to this a lot!

    I'm actually curious how much I can relate to other 459 tritypes.
    I think for example INTP 5w4 and INFP 4w5 are very different.

    Yep, I think there are still lot's of things in common, though

    I don't like to express my emotions, I kind of ignore them. I'm an observer and like to analyze things. I want to be objective and like to think logical. Nevertheless I think I have a strong Feeling function because I mistyped myself as an INFP.
    Here is the main difference, well, if you're talking about expressing emotions to others I doubt any 4 does that unless it's a very, very close person (then they can express a lot of emotions) but I imagine you don't like to express your emotions even to yourself (main difference between 4s and 5s). I usually constantly analyze things also, but emotion/feeling is always more important.

    I actually came to this tritype because I wasn't sure in the beginning if I'm a 5, 4 or 9.
    First I thought I'd be a 5, then I kind of noticed that I also have much of a 4 and a 9 (but not the basic fears and desires, at least not so strong like my core type). The other types don't fit. Thought about being 541 or 593 but I think I'm more of a 4 instead of 3 and more of a 9 than a 1).
    In the end I'm a 5 as a core with the basic fear of failing, not being competent enough and the desire to understand the world and being an expert in my field.
    My 4 wing adds a certain beauty to that. I often see beauty in symmetrie or if a word is just perfect. I'm always searching for the most elegant solution. I'm also daydreaming a lot, or I feel very individualistic. I'm rather going my own way and am true to myself. I'm very introspective and want to learn more about myself. I often want to fit into a group but I never really fit, so I kind of get this type 4 feeling "it must be so". However I never really feel shame or that others have something which I don't have.
    Sounds like 5w4. Also 4s feel they have something others don't have, it goes both ways... we're actually for the most part really egocentric and at the same time hate ourselves.. very contradictory. Nowadays though I rarely hate my self, I'm a lot more in the individualistic/loving my self side...

    The 9 in my tritype is probably my habit to be passiv-aggressive and I'm conflict avoidant. I would like to see a united world in which all people understand each other and see that we're all humans and equal.
    It's the same for me I guess for the 9

    Would like to hear more from you all ^^ How much can you relate to my last paragraph. And how do you differ?
    About the chat it will be hard, but we could organize a day in skype, or make a "permanent" chat in tiny chat or open a room in some chat-room ...
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  2. #12
    Type 5w4

    I don't like to express my emotions, I kind of ignore them. I'm an observer and like to analyze things. I want to be objective and like to think logical. Nevertheless I think I have a strong Feeling function because I mistyped myself as an INFP.
    Here is the main difference, well, if you're talking about expressing emotions to others I doubt any 4 does that unless it's a very, very close person (then they can express a lot of emotions) but I imagine you don't like to express your emotions even to yourself (main difference between 4s and 5s). I usually constantly analyze things also, but emotion/feeling is always more important.
    emotions/feelings in general are uncomfortable for me^^ I never really understand them. I probably try to ignore them and once a year they want to come out and then I'm crying but don't know why...

    I actually came to this tritype because I wasn't sure in the beginning if I'm a 5, 4 or 9.
    First I thought I'd be a 5, then I kind of noticed that I also have much of a 4 and a 9 (but not the basic fears and desires, at least not so strong like my core type). The other types don't fit. Thought about being 541 or 593 but I think I'm more of a 4 instead of 3 and more of a 9 than a 1).
    In the end I'm a 5 as a core with the basic fear of failing, not being competent enough and the desire to understand the world and being an expert in my field.
    My 4 wing adds a certain beauty to that. I often see beauty in symmetrie or if a word is just perfect. I'm always searching for the most elegant solution. I'm also daydreaming a lot, or I feel very individualistic. I'm rather going my own way and am true to myself. I'm very introspective and want to learn more about myself. I often want to fit into a group but I never really fit, so I kind of get this type 4 feeling "it must be so". However I never really feel shame or that others have something which I don't have.
    Sounds like 5w4. Also 4s feel they have something others don't have, it goes both ways... we're actually for the most part really egocentric and at the same time hate ourselves.. very contradictory. Nowadays though I rarely hate my self, I'm a lot more in the individualistic/loving my self side...
    Interesting, I often feel different from other people and that I have something what others don't have but I'm kind of indifferent to it. Perhaps it's an NT (and NF?) thing because we are not that common in real life. I also don't identify a lot with the "romantic" side of the 4's. Or that they secretly want to connect to people. Just reading this description: 4 - Enneagram Type Four: The Individualist
    While it is true that Fours often feel different from others, they do not really want to be alone. They may feel socially awkward or self-conscious, but they deeply wish to connect with people who understand them and their feelings. The “romantics” of the Enneagram, they long for someone to come into their lives and appreciate the secret self that they have privately nurtured and hidden from the world.
    I probably should analyze type 4 more because it seems to be a big part in myself. But I'm sure my core is 5.
    I would also like to hear a 945 or 954 to discover the 9 fix :)

  3. #13
    Type 4w5

    4w5 - 5w4 - 9w1 here.

    I'd been sad about feeling detached from reality all day, and felt like I was incapable of taking part in the world because my own being is so hazy and transparent. And then I see that you're all saying the same thing, and then proceed to describe my feelings to a T. It's nice to know I'm not going crazy. I'd tried to make my mark on the microcosm that is my house by cleaning and arranging things, which I rarely do, because I felt such an urgency to do things and not just be a brain.

    Normally those feelings are not a problem, but today they are. But it's uplifting to hear that you're feeling good yourself, despite describing the same trance.

    I'll write a nicer post tomorrow. :)
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  5. #14
    Type 6w5

    I am in this triad. I have bounced back and forth between 5w4, 4w3/5, and 9w1. My 5w4 and my 9w1 are so even that I'm basically drawing a tie right now. I am an INFP.

    Right now, I am interested in cognitive science and neuropsychology, as well as foreign language learning, creative writing, and human-computer interaction.

    I can relate to the feeling of sitting around and being a brain. Lately, I have been so focused on studying German that I haven't been talking to people. I can't help but feel unproductive, even though I'm learning and absorbing information. Tomorrow, I am going to visit my boyfriend for the first time in a few weeks. That'll be good for me, because it gets me out of the house.
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  6. #15
    Type 5w4

    Quote Originally Posted by slothpop View Post
    I am in this triad. I have bounced back and forth between 5w4, 4w3/5, and 9w1. My 5w4 and my 9w1 are so even that I'm basically drawing a tie right now. I am an INFP.

    Right now, I am interested in cognitive science and neuropsychology, as well as foreign language learning, creative writing, and human-computer interaction.

    I can relate to the feeling of sitting around and being a brain. Lately, I have been so focused on studying German that I haven't been talking to people. I can't help but feel unproductive, even though I'm learning and absorbing information. Tomorrow, I am going to visit my boyfriend for the first time in a few weeks. That'll be good for me, because it gets me out of the house.
    oh oh human-computer-interaction, don't say it again. I had to write about 30 pages about this topic in a foreign language last week. I'm glad it's over ^^
    And I'm German btw ^^ is it hard to learn for you? What's the most difficult about it? :)

    and @Lovebeam I'm curious to hear more from you (today!) :D
    and from the others as well.
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  7. #16
    Type 6w5

    Quote Originally Posted by Draki View Post
    oh oh human-computer-interaction, don't say it again. I had to write about 30 pages about this topic in a foreign language last week. I'm glad it's over ^^
    And I'm German btw ^^ is it hard to learn for you? What's the most difficult about it? :)

    and @Lovebeam I'm curious to hear more from you (today!) :D
    and from the others as well.
    Wow! 30 pages in a foreign language? Was this in German?

    For me, grammar was the most difficult part of German. This is something that gets easier if you read more. I think that this is true for most foreign languages.
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  8. #17
    Type 5w4

    Quote Originally Posted by slothpop View Post
    Wow! 30 pages in a foreign language? Was this in German?

    For me, grammar was the most difficult part of German. This is something that gets easier if you read more. I think that this is true for most foreign languages.
    It was in French, but there were a lot of screenshots, too. Not 30 pages text. (that will probably be the case in my Bachelor Thesis ...)

    I was always good in grammar but whenever I speak I do everything wrong xD
    But I know German grammar is much more difficult than English. French is equally difficult than German.

    Do you learn it for fun or do you have to learn it in school? And what would you like to do with it in the future?
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  9. #18

    studied psychology. though most of my studies ive continued on my own.

    -worked as a residential counselor and supervisor for at risk troubled youth for a year and a half. very stressfull, and dysfunctional place ironically i had a lot of freedom and did a lot of creative projects all to improve and tie the program more to fit the mission to bring out the best in hurt kids , who all can be awesome when you treat them the right way.

    -before that i worked with adolescents on the autism spectrum doing behavior modification and functional supports.

    now im going back to school, or at least taking non matriculated masters in social work classes, though ive gone back and worth with that or counseling or psy d and am questioning what i should do anyway given all my own self analysis and realizing i need to step away form dysfunctional environments that can make me too normalized with crazy.

    i make jewerly . write poetry. used to be a musician grew up studying piano in a very musical household.

    very similar to your post about what you look for with friends.

    love exploring outdoors more for the romantic idea than accomplishing the top of the mountains so to speak.

    live in seacoast region of new hampshire which is gorgeous and has the best of every world.

    currently not working , moving, and trying to figure out how to balance all the many past selves and qualities i became ,that i hadnt been before.

    -still stuck obsessing over my past relationship, which became abusive and i still seek resolve.

    -realizing taking adderall for 3 years now has dampened my personality and made me TOO detail orientated (ironic because i WASNT detail oriented before)

    -wishing people like on this forum (so similar) were immediate in my day to day life.
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  10. #19

    My primary type is 4w5, then 5w4, followed by either 9w1 or 1w9. tritype 451 or 459. sx/sp or sp/sx. INFP or INFJ. I take it all with a healthy dose of skepticism but it can be very illuminating nonetheless.

    I am new around here and find it both reassuring and disturbing to see aspects of my character mirrored so clearly in others. It appears that I am older than most of you (40) but have a surprisingly similar trajectory. In my youth, I always thought I would be a writer. I was a philosophy major at a liberal arts college, but the analytical perfectionistic nature of that enterprise reinforced some of my own worst tendencies. I ended up in a state of neurotic paralysis with terrible writers block and became very uncertain as to whether I should continue with graduate school or abort. I decided to apply in philosophy to 'keep my options open.' My success rate was high and I found it difficult to resist the lure of so much wanting of me, so on I went. I became yet more anxious, and gained more powerful tools with which to ascertain all the inadequacies of my own intellect, writing, and thoughts. This is not to say that I gained no benefits from the process— it sharpened my skills, helped me to buckle down and focus, finish things I started and stop being so dilettantish. I realized how much I like teaching and working with students in small groups (though not in lecture halls).

    It took me 9 years to finish the phd, after which I taught college for a year as a lecturer and then… left the field with an unusual degree of conviction. For the subsequent nearly 9 years I have been comparatively idle, to the point of deliberately avoiding anything serious or constructive and trying to focus my energies and ambitions on concrete, minor and self-contained tasks. This was not entirely successful, although it did keep panic and suicidal fixation to a comparative minimum. A few years ago I finally agreed to try anti-anxiety medication at the insistence of my husband, and that has been amazingly, pleasantly helpful— I now feel like something other than the sum of my neuroses constantly whispering sour nothings in my ear. I feel a restless energy again, instead of feeling resigned to a life of hiding away from the world and myself. I am slowly looking for an outlet, though what that might be, I truly do not know. I don’t believe that there are things that MATTER, but I would still like to invest time in something that matters to me and not consign myself to being quite so inert.
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  11. #20
    Type 5w4

    I start to feel lonely here as the only INTP xD
    wait... ! I summon INTPs 549/594! ^^

    @Iamtp @wabi sabi @Jennywocky @SpectrumOfThought @Grandmaster Yoda
    Last edited by Draki; 09-08-2014 at 03:41 PM.
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