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This is a discussion on Dreams, enneagram and finding enneagram type within the Enneagram Personality Theory Forum forums, part of the Personality Type Forums category; So I have some questions to you all. I have been having difficulty figuring out if Im an enneagram 5 ...

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    Type 5

    Dreams, enneagram and finding enneagram type

    So I have some questions to you all.

    I have been having difficulty figuring out if Im an enneagram 5 or 9. I lean towards 5, but some people I know online say I might be 9 and I can basically see that as an possibility. This is not the question just some background knowledge to understand my question.

    So I have congenital myopathy in a sort of light form and the disease is heriditary so I got it from my mother. It is a very stable kind of muscles disease that should not change with time. Basically I just get very tired or tire quicker than others but I am basically a strong enough kind of person. And I see her getting weaker and have more problems that is not related to that disease, as she gets older, which might be why I have this reccurring dream. The dream or the overall theme of the dream is me not being able to move out of a chair or whatever Im sitting in. In the dream I feel totally incapable of dealing with myself. Im what you would call overweight, so that might also be a problem or what my brain is telling me to do something about.

    Basically my idea of dream interpretation is to take what you dream in as much of a practical manner as you can. Im not saying there are symbolisms in dreams I just mean they must mean something to you before you dreamt the dream. So I basically believe that for you to see symbols in things you have had to associate them with something. So if I dream an apple being tread on, it has a meaning to me in the context of my perception and not something that is in a book Ive never read. To me symbols can have many interpretations and what I percieve it as in a dream might be very different from what someone else experience it as. So I dont have much faith in dream interpretation that is based on symbolics from a book I have never read. I have had to read that book, there after dreamt something and then you can interpret my dream according to your book. And it is basically not that kind of dream interpretation Im looking for.

    But my question is based on enneagram and in particular type 5. This types basic fear is to be helpless and that is basically what I dream I am. Do you think I using my dream to explain myself something? And that the dream interpretation might help me to understand what type I might be? Could this also suggest another enneagram type?

    Please come up with any idea, all ideas are helpful.
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  2. #2
    Type 8

    Very interesting idea. The dream could be twisted to mean anything in the questions you proposed, but ultimately, it is about what matters to you. It may not be a hint to your Enneagram type at all, but then again, it could be. Do you think this represents your fear only of the basic situation, or do you think this dream stems deeper, reflecting a very deep-seeded fear that's been around for your entire life? We all can fear anything at any point in our life, but I believe the difference between a situation-specific fear and the fears as defined by the Enneagram is that the types have one fear that transcends situation, and looms over them for much of their life. They can conquer it, but it's still been their basic fear.

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    Type 1


    I know that I would say my dreams definitely relate to my Enneagram type. Whether or not this means all dreams do I do not know.
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    What do believe you would find most difficult to deal with should you become helpless in such a manner? I may have a few ideas based on your answer to this question.

    I think you are right about dreams relating to Enneagram type. The trickiest part about it is in interpreting the symbolism in order to simplify it. Do we really know that we are interpreting by what we believe about ourselves or is it objective reality?
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  6. #5

    It's definitely possible (as has been said :p).

    I am a 5. Many of my dreams are intense and vivid, though realistic (no fantasy lands). I am in the centre of crisis, but I have the skills I need to move forward. People are depending on me, and I am able to come through for most of them. My dreams have a nightmarish "tone" to them, as might be perceived by others, but to me they are exciting and somewhat enjoyable breaks from my conscious life where I am existing in predictable patterns, yet do not have the skill set to feel in control of these events. I mentioned that I save most, not all (would proably be more of a 4 or 9 element), and that is because my dreams are realistic. When I am planning a day saving strategy, unfortunately some people are always lost in the intial sneak attack. Also, I am usually under a disguise in my dreams. I am able to use my knowhow to get things done, using the persona I am wielding, and still no one quite knows who I am. BANZAI! (Well . . . for a 5.)

    In your dreams, is the focus the throwback to your mother's suffering? I would imagine that if you are feeling her pain in a sort of discorded sense, you might be having a "9" dream. 5's want to be useful, but in an egalitarian way, not an intimate way.

    If you are indeed feeling trapped, maybe you are having a "5" dream. Think back to see if the focus was on your own psyche. Did you try various failed strategies to escape your predicament?

    Dreams have a lot of debate surrounding them, so while I wouldn't pin them to enneagram quite yet, I consider it. After all, our psyches are our psyches all the time. It might be useful for someone in a troubled state to take note of any subconscious feedback since that's where our inhibitions are not (as) active. Maybe someone who didn't know their type could find out from what elemen their dreams had that was missing in their daily life?
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    I dream very heavily every night. I was a temporary secretary for years in Seattle and thirty years later am often still trying to get to some job before eight. I could never figure out which skyscraper I was supposed to be in or where I should find parking and was often way late. Last night my car flew into a skyscraper and I thought oh this is going to cost millions of dollars to fix, am I the Bin Laden of the temporary secretarial pool or what, and then I got out of the car and no one even looked at me. Wouldn't the cops figure out who I am from the license plate? Somehow it just didn't matter and I started talking to people, and then finally got to the boring job, and went home in some other car. I am often in public places and am somewhat lost and don't know quite what I should be doing. I try to find my family and am frantic and then there they are and everything is ok. I'm constantly late in dreams! In life I'm actually usually right on time. I can't even recognize the faces of people I'm living with and working with in dreams! But in life I usually remember peoples' names.
    I think I'm either a four or a five.

  8. #7
    Type 9w1

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  9. #8
    Type 9w1

    Quote Originally Posted by Barbarella View Post
    It's definitely possible (as has been said :p).

    I am a 5. Many of my dreams are intense and vivid, though realistic (no fantasy lands). I am in the centre of crisis, but I have the skills I need to move forward. People are depending on me, and I am able to come through for most of them. My dreams have a nightmarish "tone" to them, as might be perceived by others, but to me they are exciting and somewhat enjoyable breaks from my conscious life where I am existing in predictable patterns, yet do not have the skill set to feel in control of these events. I mentioned that I save most, not all (would proably be more of a 4 or 9 element), and that is because my dreams are realistic. When I am planning a day saving strategy, unfortunately some people are always lost in the intial sneak attack. Also, I am usually under a disguise in my dreams. I am able to use my knowhow to get things done, using the persona I am wielding, and still no one quite knows who I am. BANZAI! (Well . . . for a 5.)

    In your dreams, is the focus the throwback to your mother's suffering? I would imagine that if you are feeling her pain in a sort of discorded sense, you might be having a "9" dream. 5's want to be useful, but in an egalitarian way, not an intimate way.

    If you are indeed feeling trapped, maybe you are having a "5" dream. Think back to see if the focus was on your own psyche. Did you try various failed strategies to escape your predicament?

    Dreams have a lot of debate surrounding them, so while I wouldn't pin them to enneagram quite yet, I consider it. After all, our psyches are our psyches all the time. It might be useful for someone in a troubled state to take note of any subconscious feedback since that's where our inhibitions are not (as) active. Maybe someone who didn't know their type could find out from what elemen their dreams had that was missing in their daily life?
    My dreams are exactly like this!! I'm an SX 5. Thanks for this post.. it's nice to know someone else is having dreams that are just as excitingly creepy as mine hahah


     

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