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This is a discussion on Types with wings, MBTI correlation as based on PerC user profiles within the Enneagram Personality Theory Forum forums, part of the Personality Type Forums category; 1. What is it? This is an attempt to explore possible correlation between PerC user profiles and their Enneagram types ...

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    Types with wings, MBTI correlation as based on PerC user profiles

    1. What is it?
    This is an attempt to explore possible correlation between PerC user profiles and their Enneagram types with wings.

    2. How did you gather the data?
    Through personal signatures and forum posts.

    3. How do you know if it's accurate?
    I don't. However, I refrained from using data provided by people who stated they weren't sure of their types.

    4. People are mistyped.
    I know. I really do. The information is based on how people see themselves and I made no attempts to "correct" the data manually.

    5. I think type X is more common for YYYY than type Z.
    So do I, in some cases, but see #4.

    6. How many users are there in the sample?
    Currently 559. Unfortunately, the number of ESxx is really low.

    7. How common is each type on PerC?
    The most common are 5w6, 4w5 and 9w1. The least common are 8w9, 1w9 and 8w7.

    8. What about instinctual stacking?
    I tried to do this too, but most people in almost every type claim to be Sx-first, so the result wouldn't be very conclusive.

    9. If most people on PerC are introverted intuitives, wouldn't that skew the result?
    Yes. That's why I compared the MBTI dichotomies for every type to the PerC average. I posted the correlation if the difference was higher than 10%.

    10. Why do this?
    For fun! I like stats.

    ~~Thanks for reading and have fun!~~


    Type 1:

    1w9
    - 38% of PerC Ones
    - more introverted, sensing, thinking and judging than the PerC average
    - most common among: ISTJ, ESTJ, ISFJ, ENTJ, INTJ, ENFJ

    1w2
    - 62% of PerC Ones
    - more thinking and judging than the PerC average
    - most common among: ISTJ, ENTJ, ENFJ, ESTJ, INFJ, ENTP



    Type 2:

    2w1
    - 67% of PerC Twos
    - more extroverted, sensing, feeling and judging than the PerC average
    - most common among: ESFJ, ENFJ, ISFJ, ISFP, ENFP, ESFP

    2w3
    - 33% of PerC Twos
    - more extroverted, intuitive and feeling than the PerC average
    - most common among: ENFJ, ENFP, ESFP, ISFJ, INFP, ESFJ




    Type 3:

    3w2
    - 49% of PerC Threes
    - more extroverted, sensing and judging than the PerC average
    - most common among: ESFJ, ESTJ, ENFJ, ENTJ, ESTP, ENTP


    3w4
    - 51% of PerC Threes
    - more extroverted and thinking than the PerC average
    - most common among: ESTJ, ENTP, ENTJ, ESTP, ENFJ, ENFP



    Type 4:

    4w3
    - 23% of PerC Fours
    - more intuitive and feeling than the PerC average
    - most common among: ENFP, INFJ, ISFP, ISFJ, ENFJ, INFP


    4w5
    - 78% of PerC Fours
    - more introverted, intuitive, feeling and perceiving than the PerC average
    - most common among: INFP, INFJ, ISFP, ISFJ, ENFP, INTP



    Type 5:

    5w4
    - 37% of PerC Fives
    - more introverted, intuitive, thinking and perceiving than the PerC average
    - most common among: INTP, ESTP, INTJ, INFJ, ISTP, ISTJ

    5w6
    - 63% of PerC Fives
    - more introverted, intuitive and thinking than the PerC average
    - most common among: INTP, INTJ, ISTP, ISTJ, ENTJ, INFP



    Type 6:

    6w5
    - 52% of PerC Sixes
    - more introverted and judging than the PerC average
    - most common among: ISFJ, INTJ, ESTJ, ISTJ, ESFJ, INTP

    6w7
    - 48% of PerC Sixes
    - more sensing and judging than the PerC average
    - most common among: ISTJ, ESTJ, ESFJ, ISFP, INFJ, ISTP




    Type 7:

    7w6
    - 48% of PerC Sevens
    - more extroverted and perceiving than the PerC average
    - most common among: ESFP, ENTP, ENFP, ESTP, ISTP, ISFP

    7w8
    - 52% of PerC Sevens
    - more extroverted, thinking and perceiving than the PerC average
    - most common among: ESTP, ENTP, ENFP, ESFP, ENFJ, ISTP



    Type 8:

    8w7
    - 54% of PerC Eights
    - more extroverted and thinking than the PerC average
    - most common among: ENTJ, ESTP, ESTJ, ENTP, ISTP, ISTJ

    8w9
    - 46% of PerC Eights
    - more extroverted and thinking than the PerC average
    - most common among: ESTP, ENTJ, ESTJ, ENTP, ESFP, INTJ




    Type 9:

    9w8
    - 30% of PerC Nines
    - more sensing than the PerC average
    - most common among: ESFP, ESFJ, ISTP, ENFJ, INTP, ISFJ

    9w1
    - 70% of PerC Nines
    - more introverted, feeling and perceiving than the PerC average
    - most common among: ISFP, INFP, ISTJ, ISFJ, ISTP, INFJ



    Type with the smallest MBTI difference between wings - Type 8
    Type with the biggest MBTI difference between wings - Type 9



    Most common Enneatypes with wings for each MBTI type:

    ENFJ: 2w3, 2w1, 1w2, 3w2, 9w1, 9w8, 3w4
    ENFP: 7w6, 7w8, 4w3, 2w3, 4w5, 2w1, 9w1
    ENTJ: 8w7, 8w9, 1w2, 1w9, 5w6, 3w4, 9w1
    ENTP: 7w8, 7w6, 8w7, 3w4, 8w9, 1w2, 3w2
    ESFJ: 2w1, 3w2, 9w8, 6w7, 6w5, 1w2
    ESFP: 9w8, 7w6, 7w8, 2w3, 6w7, 2w1
    ESTJ: 3w4, 8w7, 3w2, 1w2, 6w5, 6w7
    ESTP: 7w8, 8w7, 8w9, 5w4, 7w6, 3w4
    INFJ: 4w5, 4w3, 6w7, 5w4, 9w1, 1w2, 2w1
    INFP: 4w5, 9w1, 2w1, 5w4, 6w5, 5w6, 9w8
    INTJ: 5w6, 5w4, 6w5, 1w9, 8w9, 8w7, 9w8
    INTP: 5w6, 5w4, 9w8, 6w5, 4w5, 7w8, 7w6
    ISFJ: 6w5, 2w1, 4w5, 9w1, 1w9, 2w3, 6w7
    ISFP: 9w1, 4w5, 2w1, 4w3, 6w7, 9w8, 3w2
    ISTJ: 1w9, 1w2, 5w6, 6w7, 9w1, 6w5, 3w2
    ISTP: 5w6, 9w8, 6w7, 9w1, 5w4, 7w6, 6w5



    Most common gut/heart/head types (and possible tritypes) for each MBTI type:

    TYPE
    GUT
    HEART
    HEAD
    TRITYPE
    ENFJ 1w2 2w3 6w7 126
    ENFP 9w1 4w3 7w6 479
    ENTJ 8w7 3w2 5w6 358
    ENTP 8w7 3w4 7w8 378
    ESFJ 9w1 2w3 6w7 269
    ESFP 9w8 2w3 7w6 279
    ESTJ 8w7 3w2 6w5 368
    ESTP 8w7 3w4 7w8 378
    INFJ 9w1 4w5 5w4 459
    INFP 9w1 4w5 5w4 459
    INTJ 1w9 4w5 5w6 145
    INTP 9w8 4w5 5w6 459
    ISFJ 9w1 2w1 6w5 269
    ISFP 9w1 4w5 6w7 469
    ISTJ 1w9 3w2 5w6 135
    ISTP 9w8 4w5 5w6 459



    And now the triads! The calculation is based on the number of users belonging to each triad divided by the total number (for example, ENTJ is listed as first for the gut triad, because 61.8% of PerC ENTJs are either Ones, Eights or Nines, which is the highest percentage of all 16 MBTI types). There wasn't any significant correlation for some triads, but I posted the results anyway.

    Compliant - Superego (1, 2, 6):
    - more feeling and judging than the PerC average
    - most common types: ESFJ, ISFJ, ENFJ, ISTJ, ESTJ

    Assertive - Id (3, 7, 8):
    - more extroverted and thinking than the PerC average
    - most common types: ESTP, ENTP, ENTJ, ESTJ, ESFP

    Withdrawn - Ego (4, 5, 9):
    - more introverted than the PerC average
    - most common types: INTP, INFP, ISFP, INTJ, INFJ

    Gut - Anger (1, 8, 9):
    - no significant difference from the PerC average
    - most common types: ENTJ, ISTJ, ESTJ, ISFP, ESTP

    Heart - Shame (2, 3, 4):
    - more feeling than the PerC average
    - most common types: ESFJ, INFP, INFJ, ENFJ, ENFP

    Head - Fear (5, 6, 7):
    - more thinking and perceiving than the PerC average
    - most common types: INTP, INTJ, ISTP, ESTP, ENTP

    Competency (1, 3, 5):
    - more introverted, thinking and judging than the PerC average
    - most common types: INTP, INTJ, ISTJ, ESTJ, INTP

    Positive Outlook (2, 7, 9):
    - more extroverted, feeling and perceiving than the PerC average
    - most common types: ENFP, ESFP, ESTP, ESFJ, ISFP

    Reactive (4, 6, 8):
    - no significant difference from the PerC average
    - most common types: INFP, INFJ, ENTJ, ESTJ, ISFP

    Frustration - Idealistic (1, 4, 7):
    - no significant difference from the PerC average
    - most common types: INFP, ENFP, INFJ, ENTP, ESTP

    Rejection - Power-seeking (2, 5, 8):
    - more thinking than the PerC average
    - most common types: INTP, INTJ, ENTJ, ISTP, ESFJ

    Attachment - Normative (3, 6, 9):
    - more sensng than the PerC average
    - most common types: ESTJ, ISFP, ESFJ, ISFJ, ESFP



    Finally, cognitive functions and corresponding types. The first row for each contains the highest percentages based on dominant users only (for example, ExFJ for Fe), the second - dominant and auxiliary (xxFJ for Fe).

    Fe dom 2w1 3w2 9w8 2w3 6w7 1w2
    dom + aux 2w1 4w5 6w5 3w2 6w7 9w8
    Fi dom 4w5 9w1 2w1 4w3 6w7 6w5
    dom + aux 4w5 9w1 7w6 9w8 2w1 7w8
    Ne dom 7w6 7w8 8w7 3w4 4w3 2w3
    dom + aux 4w5 5w6 7w6 7w8 5w4 9w1
    Ni dom 5w6 4w5 5w4 6w5 4w3 9w1
    dom + aux 5w6 4w5 1w2 8w7 2w1 5w4
    Se dom 7w8 7w6 9w8 8w9 8w7 5w4
    dom + aux 7w8 9w8 7w6 9w1 5w6 8w7
    Si dom 6w5 1w9 1w2 9w1 6w7 5w6
    dom + aux 2w1 6w5 1w9 3w2 6w7 1w2
    Te dom 8w7 8w9 1w2 3w4 3w2 1w9
    dom + aux 5w6 8w7 1w9 1w2 6w5 8w9
    Ti dom 5w6 5w4 9w8 6w5 7w6 6w7
    dom + aux 5w6 7w8 5w4 7w6 8w7 9w8
    Last edited by aconite; 05-20-2012 at 10:28 AM.
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    Interesting. Considering that the probability at the very least half of PerC members are mistyped through MBTI, mixed with equally that for ENNG, this theory would be too flawed to take seriously. Nice posting though, seems you put a lot of work into this and i do realize you created this from the information provided.
    Last edited by MuChApArAdOx; 05-19-2012 at 12:22 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MuChApArAdOx View Post
    Interesting. Considering that the probability of at the very least half of PerC members are mistyped through MBTI, mixed with equally that for ENNG, this theory would be too flawed to take seriously.
    This is not a theory, really, more like a chart. Although I rolled my eyes quite a bit... "oh, another INFP 4w5" ;)

    Quote Originally Posted by MuChApArAdOx View Post
    Nice posting though, seems you put a lot of work into this and i do realize you created this from the information provided.
    Not a lot, really, it just looks like this ;)
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    Quote Originally Posted by aconite View Post
    This is not a theory, really, more like a chart. Although I rolled my eyes quite a bit... "oh, another INFP 4w5" ;)
    I think a lot of people believe that they're 4's especially if they're sensitive and artsy. What they don't realize is that 4 is a rare enneagram type (special snowflake syndrome?) and real 4's are incredibly vain, dramatic, and pretty intense individuals. Let's put it this way, if you think you're a 4 and you happen to meet a real 4 at some point in your life you'll be like, whoa. I have dated a core 4, it was not a fun time.
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    Members35,639
    ...i disagree that half the people are mistyped...while there are probably people who are...36,00 is quite a small number in comparison to the whole world...4s are in the search for self and 5s in the search for information as to find their role and bring to the world their observations...so PerC to me doesn't seem like a good basis to the real world...at least that's what i feel you are trying to convey...it's like going to a sport's camp...what do you expect?...people who don't care about their health or the fun of sports in general?....
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    @aconite
    interesting. for all the types accept 5 and 9, the more common wing in the general population was less common



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    Quote Originally Posted by paper lilies View Post
    I think a lot of people believe that they're 4's especially if they're sensitive and artsy. What they don't realize is that 4 is a rare enneagram type (special snowflake syndrome?) and real 4's are incredibly vain, dramatic, and pretty intense individuals. Let's put it this way, if you think you're a 4 and you happen to meet a real 4 at some point in your life you'll be like, whoa. I have dated a core 4, it was not a fun time.
    The only claimed 4 i know in my reality stands out like a sore thumb. When she walks towards the lunch table, we all put our heads down hoping she will walk right on by. She can make a beautiful moment into something negative in 3 2 1 seconds. The drama is enough to make me scream, the envy is over the top. I've only known her for a short time although it isn't difficult to see why she can't hold onto a man. The last man she dated ran like his ass was on fire ;) understandable. And agreed with the whole special snowflake thing. I'm a sensitive creature who like to draw/paint, so therefore i must be a 4. Me so special :D
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    Quote Originally Posted by aconite View Post
    I tried to do this too, but most people in almost every type claim to be Sx-first, so the result wouldn't be very conclusive.
    1. z0mg I fucking love statistics too! This is fantastic!

    2. PerC's new Table and formatting features make my Te bounce off walls with excitement.

    3. I agree, I think most people misunderstand the variants. Sx is the least common variant. 4 is one of the least common types. Trust me, even having a 4 fix ain't one bit pretty.
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    Type 9

    The correlations look like what you find in other empirical studies. 4s aren't that rare for introverted feeling people who like personality theory. When 964 members of the APT (MBTI experts) were given an Enneagram test, 57 came out 4s, 33 came out 9s, and 19 came out 6s.
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    Thank you guys for the feedback!

    I've added Enneagram triads and cognitive functions to the first post. If you have any ideas or wishes, feel free to share.
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