[ENTJ] What would you do to someone who hurt a loved one?

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This is a discussion on What would you do to someone who hurt a loved one? within the ENTJ Forum - The Executives forums, part of the NT's Temperament Forum- The Intellects category; I'm just curious...ENTJs are sometimes seen as the most... brutal isn't the word, but I might say...driven? I'm curious how ...

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    What would you do to someone who hurt a loved one?

    I'm just curious...ENTJs are sometimes seen as the most... brutal isn't the word, but I might say...driven? I'm curious how you would react.

    I know as an ENFP, my first urge is to systematically destroy their entire life from the ground up, but I've never actually done this. The one time I truly felt the urge to, I was not able to because it could have came back to hurt my loved one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrEquine View Post
    I'm just curious...ENTJs are sometimes seen as the most... brutal isn't the word, but I might say...driven? I'm curious how you would react.

    I know as an ENFP, my first urge is to systematically destroy their entire life from the ground up, but I've never actually done this. The one time I truly felt the urge to, I was not able to because it could have came back to hurt my loved one.

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    Well, think of it this way: Stalinist repression... That's how we react! It may not be immediate, but sooner or later we get revenge on those who harm those we care about. And it has to be a lesson of cruelty, not necessarily because it gives me any pleasure, but as a deterrent to others who might think of doing the same. It has to come as a thunderbolt down on our enemies, it has to be disproportionate, to strike fear in those who would do such a thing.

    The thing is when I, as an ENTJ 8 see those I care about harmed, it's not just them getting hurt, there is an added effect to this, it makes me feel helpless and powerless and this is the worst thing one can make me feel... and not the worst for me, as much as for the perpetrator. Because I will show no compassion. I don't know if you're familiar with the game The Elder Scrolls 5: Skyrim... there is this sort of prayer that I think illustrates our spirit when someone does that: "Sweet Mother, sweet Mother, send your child unto me, for the sins of the unworthy must be baptised in blood and fear" Even decades later, I remember and a day will come and when it will come, I will be beyond cruel.

    You have to understand that when I hate, it's a feeling that may not diminish over time and even when it diminishes or vanishes, I will still punish the guilty ones out of principle. So the punishment is in the end independent of my personal feelings. It will come either way.

    Now, I've never had to resort to this... thankfully... but this is what it's like.

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    I strongly feel that people should be held accountable for their actions. I will rationally consider every avenue I could take to do so, and choose my words and actions precisely.

    I'm very aware of people's weaknesses, but I've never had reason yet to completely crush someone by pushing their emotional buttons. Instead it'll probably be some ice cold way of action-reprecussions. Pretty much teaching them to be more responsible.

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    The magnitude of the transgression would define my behavior. In the overwhelmingly vast majority of situations, I'd put my energy towards helping my loved one recover.

    Now if the person intentionally murdered, crippled or sexually assaulted a loved one, I genuinely don't know what I'm capable of doing. This frightens me a bit since I have a ruthless side to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DrEquine View Post
    I'm just curious...ENTJs are sometimes seen as the most... brutal isn't the word, but I might say...driven? I'm curious how you would react.

    I know as an ENFP, my first urge is to systematically destroy their entire life from the ground up, but I've never actually done this. The one time I truly felt the urge to, I was not able to because it could have came back to hurt my loved one.

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    This really depends on a lot of factors and is taken on a case by case basis. To be honest, to have one fixed approach to retaliation efforts imo is ineffective in the modern world where power is dissipated among the people, patterns are much easier to discern, and repeated hostility is met with some counter-force.

    Some important questions worth considering...
    - physical or psychological abuse?
    - extent of the abuse?
    - intent of the abuse? Sub-question: is the abuse likely to repeat?
    - your power and capabilities relative to theirs?

    You can choose to respond with unbridled hatred, but that usually results in future retaliations if your retaliation seems disproportionate with what they did. Considering it’s your loved ones’ well-being at stake, and considering relative power...

    Case 1: they’re inexplicably stronger.
    Response: do the bare minimum to resolve the situation and make sure it doesn’t repeat.

    Case 2: your power is roughly equivalent.
    Response: retaliate equivalently with a dash of extra umph for effect. You want to send the message that what they did is not okay and you’re prepared to respond with more force on future aggressions in order to discourage future aggression.

    Case 3: your power is much greater.
    Response: usually stepping in and making your presence known is enough. I honestly don’t believe in destroying those weaker than yourself. But if they repeat their aggressions... then you can take it personally and.... “send a message”.

    At least this is how I think about it in 5 minutes lol.
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