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    ENTJ - The Executives

    Short term vs long term

    Saw this mentioned in another thread and wanted to go into greater discussion about it. What is more important to you: short term or long term? Do you account for both?



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    ENTJ - The Executives

    Here is my answer, mostly about comparing and contrasting between Ni and Si with Te.

    I find that I place more emphasis on long term, sometimes to the point of ignoring short term details. Not that I don't care about short term, I'm just pretty flexible in short term as long as it doesn't jeopardize my long term goals. I view short term objectives as stepping stones that support long term success, so things can be reconfigured or rerouted, even on the fly, as long as they still support progress on the long term goals.

    I heard one tidbit on Si vs Ni being that Si sees details, Ni sees possibilities which is true in this regard. I don't really care how it gets done as long as it gets done. If I hear a better way, I have no problem listening to it. However, as easily as my mind accepts possibilities, it also quickly shuts them down. If there are things that are mentioned that might jeopardize long term, viewed as ineffective, or involve backtracking/hindsight (can't change the past), I quickly shake my head no. Sometimes not even listening. I suppose this could be a flaw as it comes off as being a bad listener, stubborn, and sometimes I don't even listen things all the way through. But at the same time the person doesn't see what I see and if they only knew, maybe they'd realize why I don't want to waste time over it. Trivial details I think.

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    ENTJ - The Executives

    I think long-term unless there is something in the short-term that's really annoying me. For instance, there are a few things at work at the moment, that are very irritating in the short term and impact the long term. The short-term thinking has to be done here, in order for the long term to prosper.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wiarumas View Post
    Here is my answer, mostly about comparing and contrasting between Ni and Si with Te.

    I find that I place more emphasis on long term, sometimes to the point of ignoring short term details. Not that I don't care about short term, I'm just pretty flexible in short term as long as it doesn't jeopardize my long term goals. I view short term objectives as stepping stones that support long term success, so things can be reconfigured or rerouted, even on the fly, as long as they still support progress on the long term goals.

    I heard one tidbit on Si vs Ni being that Si sees details, Ni sees possibilities which is true in this regard. I don't really care how it gets done as long as it gets done. If I hear a better way, I have no problem listening to it. However, as easily as my mind accepts possibilities, it also quickly shuts them down. If there are things that are mentioned that might jeopardize long term, viewed as ineffective, or involve backtracking/hindsight (can't change the past), I quickly shake my head no. Sometimes not even listening. I suppose this could be a flaw as it comes off as being a bad listener, stubborn, and sometimes I don't even listen things all the way through. But at the same time the person doesn't see what I see and if they only knew, maybe they'd realize why I don't want to waste time over it. Trivial details I think.
    Exactly like that.
    I see it the same as you, wiarumas. I steer the boat with my eye on the horizon, but occasionally check the near and middle distance to avoid obstacles.



    I don't really care how it gets done as long as it gets done
    I wish I had a dollar for every time I've said that ;)



    However, as easily as my mind accepts possibilities, it also quickly shuts them down. If there are things that are mentioned that might jeopardize long term, viewed as ineffective, or involve backtracking/hindsight (can't change the past), I quickly shake my head no. Sometimes not even listening. I suppose this could be a flaw as it comes off as being a bad listener, stubborn, and sometimes I don't even listen things all the way through. But at the same time the person doesn't see what I see and if they only knew, maybe they'd realize why I don't want to waste time over it. Trivial details I think.
    "you've got 2 minutes to tell me why you think that's important ... go"
    I figure if you can't get to the crux of it by then, it's really not that important and I don't need to know about it.
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    ENTJ - The Executives

    Long term as well. I have always kinda felt this was a flaw of mine, because nobody ever takes my ideas seriously unless there are others already on board. Proposing to people who can only see two feet in front of them is a really not my bag. I have always considered the short term stuff as disputable tactics to the long term strategy or goal, and they are always in my mind as something that can be changed at a moments notice if something goes awry, so it is always good to have a few different approaches to the same subject in the back of your mind.

    I for the life of me will never understand the type of person who is more concerned with the process than the outcome. A thousand ways to skin the cat, but let's just make sure it does in fact get skinned.
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    ENTJ - The Executives

    Short term, have spent a v. long time working out long term, never had any fun, I've had more fun with short term stuff. But obviously a good balance is key.
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    ENTJ - The Executives

    I set long term goals. I use my short term goals to help achieve my long term goals. If I were to just focus on a long term goal, i'll probably be very very bored. So i have short term goals and they give me energy and keep me enthusiastic.
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    INFJ - The Protectors

    Ni-dominant. Of course I think long-term.
    I allow myself to think short-term only if it doesn't compromise what I have planned for long-term goals.
    I've never been the impulsive type. Always been very careful.

    But during the last year or so I've learnt to trust myself with impulsiveness. I don't always have to freak out if my evening isn't perfectly planned out. I usually like to have some kind of plan: I'm going to a party. Fine. Then I need to have these things in check:

    How do I get there? When am I supposed to be there? How long will I be there? Are we going to a bar afterwards or are we just having a house party? If not, how and when do I get home? If I'm going to a bar, how and when do I get home?

    Even my short-term goals are pretty far-sighted. :P

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    Unknown Personality

    Long term.

    I know what I want and the more short term distractions I succumb to, the longer it will take to get it.

    To survive the constant daily deprivation, I've cultivated a love for the simple things in life, as they don't effect my progress.

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    I would say long term, but I strive for ways to reach my long term goals that will also give me short term results along the way...like milestones. In other words, I want both.

    Basically, exactly what @Bi Bi said.
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