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This is a discussion on Why I Like And Admire ENTJs - Reply within the ENTJ Forum - The Executives forums, part of the NT's Temperament Forum- The Intellects category; https://personalitycafe.com/entj-foru...ire-entjs.html Okay, so a little while ago I posted a very sentimental letter to ENTJs, talking about how much I ...

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    Why I Like And Admire ENTJs - Reply

    https://personalitycafe.com/entj-foru...ire-entjs.html

    Okay, so a little while ago I posted a very sentimental letter to ENTJs, talking about how much I like and admire them for perhaps unconventional and unseen reasons.

    Unfortunately, the thread got closed. I don't know why threads get closed on here - I'm still pretty new to the site.

    Nevertheless, I read all your replies. And reread some of them.

    I wish I could reply to you all individually, but the thread is closed (SO FRUSTRATED), so I decided to write my reply as a new thread. I'm probably breaking some rules doing this, but I don't particularly care. It'll probably just get closed.

    I wish I had actually replied sooner, but, like the timid creature I was, one ENTJ replied rather brusquely right off the bat that I had posted on the wrong thread. I wasn't offended, but you know - Squeak! - I went away and hid in a corner and didn't come back to the site, thinking I'd done something wrong and no-one would reply to the words I dug up from the depths of my soul.

    So, here are a few of my replies:

    1) To Eventive:

    Um. I'm not sure how exactly I see your vulnerabilities. I mean, people watching comes rather naturally to me, and it's an intuitive process - stand me in a room with a couple of people and I can 'gauge' their personalities. But this boy I had been glimpsing (Not staring...too scared to do that) about the place for many years, and it's something to do with the eyes. There is a buried feel in the eyes. I'm sorry if that doesn't make sense. Also, when you're unhappy, or burying pain, you tend to take on this forced masculine aura where your jaw tightens and your energy turns hard and brittle, like you've become a human shield of some sort in order to keep the pain and emotion locked inside. And when it does leak out, your voice turns from strong and confident and voluble to clipped and short and hesitant.

    As to how to appear more like a ruthless killer...well, you guys do a pretty good job of that already. It's just that kind of confident energy you possess, an energy that crushes everything in your path and makes everyone take your words as gospel. If you want to appear more ruthless, don't show any feelings at all. But that's impossible, because you're human just like the rest of us, as much as you'd rather appear like a calculating machine.

    Yes! I'm going to approach him. Haven't got the chance yet, but I will when I do. Don't care if he blows me off. I'm soft, but resilient.

    2) Sweet Pickles.

    I shall talk to him. He probably has caught on by now - that is, caught on that I absolutely loathe him, because I go into avoidant mode when it comes to my crushes. And what trick?

    3) Stiletto & Tea Path

    :) You can't imagine how happy it makes me, to know that I sort of understand you guys. You are all so, so fascinating. Please don't be afraid to show your vulnerabilities. Trust me, INFPs will love you for it.

    4) Johnnyyukon


    It's okay! Haha. I did get scared away for a bit, thinking I'd done something wrong, but I came back and enjoyed reading everyone's replies. I was mad that the thread wasclosed, though.


    5) Elistra

    Oh, I'm glad I've gained a relatively good understanding of ENTJs. And I'm doing it purely out of interest. Really, the gist of it is I kind of fell in love with this boy from afar and rather than talk to him like any normal person, I just spent a couple of years analyzing to see the kind of person he was. So, not really out of self-interest. Just extreme, extreme curiosity about this personality type. I don't think he's the type of person who would be, in the end, interested in me.

    6) Peter

    I don't care if my sappy post made some ENTJs laugh and not respect me. I don't think such a person is just a bad ENTJ, but not too great a human. If it was friendly laughter, that's okay, but I'm assuming you mean mocking laughter. And I meant objective as in based on my observations, as untainted by emotions and prejudice as possible. I don't always succeed, but I try. :)

    And thank to all those who replied, and those that doled out a few kind words. :) Made my first thread on this site a good experience.

    Lots of love,

    INFP girl

    PS: I've made a promise with myself to talk to him when the opportunity arises. I don't think he knows what to make of me: he's scared of talking to me because I seem so 'delicate' and also reluctant because he thinks I hate him. I don't. I just avoid him because I like him. I do that with my crushes. It's working out great.
    Last edited by dreamerrambling; 11-15-2014 at 11:43 PM.
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    I am glad you have decided to talk to him. Yes, from what you say, avoidance is your automatic response. (Much as suspicion is my automatic response when people get mushy at me out of the blue, haha.) But bear in mind, for most extraverts, rigorously avoiding a specific person comes across as an expression of dislike, not of interest. And really, the avoidance response is the worst dislike of all, imo -- if I dislike the person but am spoiling for a fight, I might still seek the person out!

    Life would be so much easier if we were machines, don't you think? And when parts of us wear out, we could just install a new arm or pop in a new spleen, or whatever. Plug and play!

    Oh, and if the xNTPs come to this thread also, would you gentlemen kindly set to working on that, rather than trolling this thread, too?

    The sense of buried pain was ... well, in my case, accurate. I won't say it is accurate for all ENTJs, mostly because the weaponry I have to defend my bunker does not currently include a battery of Patriot missiles, and I'm too tired tonight for those kinds of shenanigans in any case. *coughs* But yes, although I don't normally talk about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elistra View Post
    I am glad you have decided to talk to him. Yes, from what you say, avoidance is your automatic response. (Much as suspicion is my automatic response when people get mushy at me out of the blue, haha.) But bear in mind, for most extraverts, rigorously avoiding a specific person comes across as an expression of dislike, not of interest. And really, the avoidance response is the worst dislike of all, imo -- if I dislike the person but am spoiling for a fight, I might still seek the person out!

    Life would be so much easier if we were machines, don't you think? And when parts of us wear out, we could just install a new arm or pop in a new spleen, or whatever. Plug and play!

    Oh, and if the xNTPs come to this thread also, would you gentlemen kindly set to working on that, rather than trolling this thread, too?

    The sense of buried pain was ... well, in my case, accurate. I won't say it is accurate for all ENTJs, mostly because the weaponry I have to defend my bunker does not currently include a battery of Patriot missiles, and I'm too tired tonight for those kinds of shenanigans in any case. *coughs* But yes, although I don't normally talk about it.
    Haha! You're hilarious. And my heart sank a little when I read that it is seen as an expression of dislike. No wonder he avoids me as well! It's turned into a rather bad cycle. Thank you for replying, and I'll do what I can to make amends with this person, even if it's just platonically. Well, us INFPs will be there to bolster you with our fiery words if your ammunition ever runs out! :)
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    Quote Originally Posted by RealisticDreamer View Post
    and it's something to do with the eyes. There is a buried feel in the eyes. I'm sorry if that doesn't make sense.
    It does, no wonder they call the eyes the mirror of the soul.
    https://personalitycafe.com/cognitive...-observer.html
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    ENTJ - The Executives

    Quote Originally Posted by RealisticDreamer View Post
    https://personalitycafe.com/entj-foru...ire-entjs.html



    3) Stiletto & Tea Path

    :) You can't imagine how happy it makes me, to know that I sort of understand you guys. You are all so, so fascinating. Please don't be afraid to show your vulnerabilities. Trust me, INFPs will love you for it.

    4)
    to make it easier to find your replies, use @ before the avatar name when not using a straight reply. comes up as a mention.

    re:vulnerabilities-I know a number of INFPs. I'm ok in that department.
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    ENTP - The Visionaries

    I think some threads get closed when trolls get off topic. I dunno, who knows the great mysteries?

    And yes, Tea path is correct use @ before a name.

    Obsoive: @RealisticDreamer

    It's a way to summon.
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    @ Tea Path @johnnyyukon Thanks for the tip! Will make sure to use it in the future. And can I just say how FREAKING nice everyone on this site is? Well, apart from that one individual who started denigrating ENTJ women. Which also happened to close the thread, apparently. Gosh. Stringent rules of respect and kindness. If only society was like Personality Café. @Eventive That thread was fascinating. Frankly, I can only truly relate to other Intuitive people. Sensors, and the way they deal with the world, is so markedly different from the way my mind operates that it's hard to find true common ground sometimes. And yes, eyes really are windows to the soul. While, for some people at least. Some eyes are blank, and those scare me with their utter emptiness. I love the kind of eyes that reveal a glimpse of someone's soul - it's the kind of thing that makes life worth living.
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    You know. It's funny how easily I can idealize and then devalue a person from one minute to the next.

    For a couple of days, I convinced myself I only liked the ENTJ that was in my head, and not the real person. He was being extra brusque and brash that day (walking around straight-backed, with a stolid expression set on his face) that I thought I'd imagined the softie within.

    Then I glimpsed a flash of vulnerability in his eyes and fell into idealism all over again. Sometimes, I have to metaphorically slap myself to halt the daydreams about the two of us sitting in a canoe and floating down some rose-petal canal, pointing out the wonderful sights and secretly enjoying each other's company more than the scenery; or having deep conversations on the nature of reality or something equally arcane.

    Sigh. Stupid brain. Still haven't found the right opportunity to talk to him. He probably thinks I'm crazy.

    Isn't life wonderful.
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    ENTP - The Visionaries

    Quote Originally Posted by RealisticDreamer View Post
    Sometimes, I have to metaphorically slap myself to halt the daydreams about the two of us sitting in a canoe and floating down some rose-petal canal, pointing out the wonderful sights and secretly enjoying each other's company more than the scenery; or having deep conversations on the nature of reality or something equally arcane.

    Sigh. Stupid brain. Still haven't found the right opportunity to talk to him. He probably thinks I'm crazy.
    You're silly.



    On what he thinks of you, how do you know he thinks anything of you? Maybe I missed it, but what have your interactions been?
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    Quote Originally Posted by johnnyyukon View Post
    You're silly.



    On what he thinks of you, how do you know he thinks anything of you? Maybe I missed it, but what have your interactions been?
    Very few. They're only silly fantasies. I have a tendency to run away with them too much. I did end up talking to him, and the illusion was instantly shattered. So, back to reality again, I suppose. It's just kind of this misty phase of idealisation that happens now and again. I laughed at myself afterwards, for being so caught up in the daydream. Not a mocking laugh - just a sort of amused and resigned 'Oh dear, haha, you did it again.'
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