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    ISFJ - The Nurturers

    Do feelers annoy you in real life?

    Do you know any xxFx? How is your relationship with them ? Do you get annoyed by their excessive emotions?



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    I'll be waiting on tenterhooks for inputs.

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    ENTP - The Visionaries

    I'm not an ENTJ (though I sometimes have slight ENTJ tendencies), but I'm going ahead to answer anyway xD

    Both yes and no. It depends on the circumstances, really. My ESFP sister is one of my very best friends, but sometimes the fact that her heart governs her mind can really get on my nerves, especially when we're trying to solve one of her problems and she's acting on impulse rather than rational thought.

    And then there's the whole showing Feeling aspect to it, too. I get perplexed by how easily Feelers randomly shower you with emotion, and if I'm close enough with you, I might find it rather pleasant. At other times, like with a new guy pursuing me, or a new friend, I just find it awkward and start backtracking the hell out of the relationship. Also, it seems that Feelers don't quite realize how big a deal it is for NTs to truly show Fe/Fi; when we don't, it's like "we don't care enough", and when we do, it's just taken for granted, "that's the way it should be". Can be a bit irritating, yeah.

    But then again, sometimes it's good to have people around that are not emotional roadblocks. Most Thinkers I know irl seem to have that problem (keep in mind that I'm 17), except for the very rare case of my ESTJ best friend. So all in all, Feelers may annoy me, but I like 'em anyway
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    ENTJ

    Annoyed is an understatement. My relationship is best described as rocky. Overall, they seem oblivious to personal boundaries. Then there is the transference issue. The "I know how you feel", or the "you must feel......." , I internalize things, so how do you know how I feel?

    Of course there is the issue of "rational arrest" where it appears at times, some are incapable of saying something logical or making a rational decision.

    Just my opinion and my personal experience.
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    ENTJ - The Executives

    Except the few (3-4) old friends, in general I don't really get close to them.

    'Annoyance' is when dealing with the justification of Feelings, basing arguments and/or reason on their feelings*/ because it's what the society would like. (* as in, they feel -or would feel- a certain way if you do/not do x, so you should act in accordance to those feelings. Emotional blackmail, I suppose, whether implicitly or explicitly)

    Then there is the transference issue. The "I know how you feel", or the "you must feel......." , I internalize things, so how do you know how I feel?
    Yeah, hate that.
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    ENTJ - The Executives

    Depends. Sometimes I ask for their insight to help me make decisions, but I hate when they become too emotional (and at that point I usually just ignore them).

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    ENTP - The Visionaries

    I usually get along with feelers. They're really insightful when it comes to other people's emotions - and sometimes other people's motivations. But when they start to get over emotional and irrational, then it's time to get the hell out of Dodge.
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    ENTJ - The Executives

    The problem is not with the F... it's when it's a combination of the S AND the F.

    I usually have no problems with NFs. Infact, I'm surrounded by NFs.
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    ISFJ - The Nurturers

    If that person gave you a drama, how many times can you guys handle? Is it just once, then that's it. Done.

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    ENTJ - The Executives

    (Assuming that it's a developed interaction/ getting to know phase and not just a one time encounter) 3. Once is an occurrence, twice is (could be) a coincidence, three times is a pattern.

    Just a general guideline. Some I gave up on two, others many more than three. Usually not one, though, but if it's someone I just met and she/he blows up on me without (reasonable) provocation.. bye.

    The problem is not with the F... it's when it's a combination of the S AND the F.

    I usually have no problems with NFs. Infact, I'm surrounded by NFs.
    But abstraction + feelings. You do X and for some arcane reason they associate it with you doing Y ("you don't let me have your cookies, in the future you won't give me things!") -- perceived actions through associating different things.

    Granted, maturity plays alot in this sort of cases.

    Pattern wise, I usually don't mind NFJ and SFP. I kind of stay away from NFP and (E)SFJ. ISFJ is a special case that I haven't decided yet.


     
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