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This is a discussion on Ask an ENTJ a question within the ENTJ Forum - The Executives forums, part of the NT's Temperament Forum- The Intellects category; Originally Posted by Fumetsu Yo! 8w7. How do you feel (or 'what do you think') about being 8w7? Do you ...

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    INTP - The Thinkers

    Quote Originally Posted by Fumetsu View Post
    Yo!

    8w7.
    How do you feel (or 'what do you think') about being 8w7?
    Do you ever feel as though your just at war with yourself?
    And the world. Do you notice or are you concious in regards to our 'self forgetting'?
    Since knowing that you are an 8w7, has it caused you to reflect on or review your behavioral patterns?
    Last edited by Sinny; 02-04-2016 at 10:32 PM.

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    Ask an ENTJ a question

    Quote Originally Posted by Sinny View Post
    How do you feel (or 'what do you think') about being 8w7?
    Do you ever feel as though your just at war with yourself?
    And the world. Do you notice or are you concious in regards to our 'self forgetting'?
    Since knowing that you are an 8w7, has it caused you to reflect on or review your behavioral patterns?
    No for all above, I'm 845 btw.

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    INTP - The Thinkers

    Quote Originally Posted by BIGJake111 View Post
    No for all above, I'm 845 btw.
    Damn, knew I would have been best surved by using quotes.

    I think tri-types suck btw.

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    ENTJ - The Executives

    Were you quick to get hurt as a child?
    No. I was a rather jockish child, in retrospect.

    Was there someone that bullied you for being a crybaby?
    I was the bully. I did get into fights, however, and maybe there were.. those who tried?

    What made you not want to appear weak?
    It didn't occur to me that I was weak/would appear weak. Later on I wanted to be strong even more because I (thought) saw what I considered a weak person, and didn't want to share similar 'fate' (I was wrong, but at that time, it was true for me).

    When did you start to value Te and neglect Fi?

    What @Prada said.
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    Quote Originally Posted by furryfury View Post
    I cared for both of them, but I can't live like that. Found an ISTP and we've never had a disagreement, we talk about things before they become a problem and neither of us is reactionary. He's very consistent and this allows me to plan for a future with him, and do the day-to-day stuff knowing that he won't throw a spanner in the works. Being able to plan and structure is very important to me, whereas it seems that for a lot of Feelers their emotions can dominate their lives.
    Quote Originally Posted by Sangoire View Post
    For your ENTJ (and mine) it requires a level of predictability in emotional responses, safe in the knowledge that they won't be blindsided by someone's outbursts.
    Everything this. Every feeler creeping on this thread please read this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sinny View Post
    I'm wondering how many ENTJ's are Enneagram 8?

    I'm an INTP 8, and can't seem to relate to many INTP's.
    I'm a pure 8.

    Quote Originally Posted by jkp View Post
    Were you quick to get hurt as a child?
    No, but I was quick to anger and I got into a lot of physical fights with other kids.

    Was there someone that bullied you for being a crybaby?

    No, I was unfortunately usually the bully.

    What made you not want to appear weak?


    I didn't care about not appearing weak to other people. I was more concerned with being strong for myself to survive my life circumstances.

    When did you start to value Te and neglect Fi?


    Te comes naturally to me, it's like my 'default' setting. Fi doesn't come naturally but I wouldn't consider it neglected. I think of Te as someone's primary language that they were raised in and Fi as that shitty secondary language they make you learn in high school (Spanish/French in California) that you can kinda/sorta speak well but has limited use only in specific situations.
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    ENTJ - The Executives

    Quote Originally Posted by Sinny View Post
    I'm wondering how many ENTJ's are Enneagram 8?

    I'm an INTP 8, and can't seem to relate to many INTP's.
    8 and a 3w4 (I've come up with the same thing over multiple tests). I don't like being an 8, and know when I'm being contrary and stubborn, or trying to dominate my environment. I feel like the 8 in me only comes out when challenged, although gentler types describe me as being very forceful generally.

    I think the thing with 8s is that we don't relate to other people. We're fiercely individualistic and self driven, so it's our way or the highway.

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    INTP - The Thinkers

    Quote Originally Posted by furryfury View Post
    8 and a 3w4 (I've come up with the same thing over multiple tests). I don't like being an 8, and know when I'm being contrary and stubborn, or trying to dominate my environment. I feel like the 8 in me only comes out when challenged, although gentler types describe me as being very forceful generally.

    I think the thing with 8s is that we don't relate to other people. We're fiercely individualistic and self driven, so it's our way or the highway.
    Hmm, I'm already skeptical of your 'work in progress' model. I think you're a 3w4 who just think's they're an Eight. Three's can be confident and bold like's Eights. This is widely commented on by the Enneagram experts.

    Not necessarily, I'm happy to do something some one elses way so long as the outcome is an outcome which I desire. It is sometimes a useful ruse to encourage others to believe that they are in control of a given situation. Give's them a sense of security, which may or may not false. That would be a covert demonstration of control, of course a more overt demonstration would be in your notion of dishing out ultimatums.

    Perhaps my INTP bleeds through in the fact that I am very very happy to let others do the leg work, whilst I do the 'cog' work. I only break my lazy habits when others are incompetant and/or inefficient.
    Last edited by Sinny; 02-05-2016 at 05:08 AM.

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    INTP - The Thinkers

    Quote Originally Posted by Handsome Jack View Post
    I'm a pure 8.

    I was quick to anger and I got into a lot of physical fights with other kids.

    I was unfortunately usually the bully.

    I didn't care about not appearing weak to other people. I was more concerned with being strong for myself to survive my life circumstances.
    Ditto on all counts.

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    If I were to bottle the essence of ENTJ, what would it be?


     
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