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This is a discussion on Ask an ENTJ a question within the ENTJ Forum - The Executives forums, part of the NT's Temperament Forum- The Intellects category; Originally Posted by maust Selfishness is the root cause of most things I consider "evil"- people not looking beyond themselves/people ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by maust View Post
    Selfishness is the root cause of most things I consider "evil"- people not looking beyond themselves/people they relate to, not thinking of the greater good, not taking into account the bigger picture, etc. I can be selfish just like everyone else, obviously, but I try not to be, and that helps me because people trust me and I don't hate myself. Sometimes being selfish helps me in establishing boundaries- I tend to want to help people, and sometimes I overreach myself. In that sense, being selfish is beneficial to me.



    Sure?



    "When I walk in the room, this is what I see, everyone stops and starin' at me... I'M SEXY AND I KNOW IT."

    If you walk into the room and feel like you got punched in the face by awesome, congrats, you've met an ENTJ.
    Actually though, most ENTJs are easily recognizable just because of the sheer force of our personality. As we grow older we learn to tone it down, but we're still pretty easy to spot- if we're somewhere we're comfortable and think there's value to engaging, we're loud, often the center of attention, and intense. We bring a lot of energy, but we don't have the flightiness of the EPs.
    My sister is actually ENTJ so I kinda have experience with that type..just wonder if there is huge difference between male/female ENTJ :p It's kinda obvious maybe haha

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    ISTP - The Mechanics

    How can I be as hip as an ENTJ?

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    ENTJ

    Quote Originally Posted by angeleyes View Post
    How can I be as hip as an ENTJ?
    hip surgery
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    ENTJ - The Executives

    Quote Originally Posted by angeleyes View Post
    How can I be as hip as an ENTJ?
    I dunna... The istp in my life (colleague) is quite the bad ass... You all have a good thing going. Focus on being the best istp you can be!
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    My boss is an INTJ, so dealing with her belongs on a different thread. My boss's boss, is an ENTJ. I have a corporate job and the work I do is a step above clerical, but barely. I graduated 3 years ago, bounced around some contract jobs and I'm 26. My weekly production is at 140% of what's required while most people are 90-110%. I'm going into my third month and I've been consistent, except one day where I was an hour & half late after sleeping through the alarm. I knew better than to make excuses and owned up to it, and it seems to have passed (happened last week).

    With this in mind, my ambition is to get involved with data analysis. The ENTJ does some of the spreadsheets that deal with the numbers and I've independently calculated them on my own and build a database from scratch. My actual data is not useful, since they already have it, but I did this to show that I am capable of working with data and I have natural analytic abilities, as I've typed up a report of what I've done. I told the INTJ about this, but she wasn't impressed because she copy and pastes an SQL entry to generate the data, which is something I'm learning. Also, if anyone is wondering how an ENTP can follow through with all of this, I take adderall.

    Questions:
    1. Because the INTJ was not impressed, could I risk going over her head to show the ENTJ what I've done?
    2. If yes, how long should I wait to present?
    3. How much could my tardy be held against me?

    Psychologically, the ENTJ appears as a 8w7. At the very least she commands with enthusiasm. She's also 32 years old, so she might not be biased against younger employees. The INTJ is 1w9. I'm still learning to recognize Enneagram which is why I only listed the main type + wing.

    Hopefully this structured and direct post also demonstrates that I am capable of addressing an ENTJ on their terms, but I might be out of my mind. After all, I didn't start my own "special snowflake" thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drunk Parrot View Post
    My boss is an INTJ, so dealing with her belongs on a different thread. My boss's boss, is an ENTJ. I have a corporate job and the work I do is a step above clerical, but barely. I graduated 3 years ago, bounced around some contract jobs and I'm 26. My weekly production is at 140% of what's required while most people are 90-110%. I'm going into my third month and I've been consistent, except one day where I was an hour & half late after sleeping through the alarm. I knew better than to make excuses and owned up to it, and it seems to have passed (happened last week).

    With this in mind, my ambition is to get involved with data analysis. The ENTJ does some of the spreadsheets that deal with the numbers and I've independently calculated them on my own and build a database from scratch. My actual data is not useful, since they already have it, but I did this to show that I am capable of working with data and I have natural analytic abilities, as I've typed up a report of what I've done. I told the INTJ about this, but she wasn't impressed because she copy and pastes an SQL entry to generate the data, which is something I'm learning. Also, if anyone is wondering how an ENTP can follow through with all of this, I take adderall.

    Questions:
    1. Because the INTJ was not impressed, could I risk going over her head to show the ENTJ what I've done?
    2. If yes, how long should I wait to present?
    3. How much could my tardy be held against me?

    Psychologically, the ENTJ appears as a 8w7. At the very least she commands with enthusiasm. She's also 32 years old, so she might not be biased against younger employees. The INTJ is 1w9. I'm still learning to recognize Enneagram which is why I only listed the main type + wing.

    Hopefully this structured and direct post also demonstrates that I am capable of addressing an ENTJ on their terms, but I might be out of my mind. After all, I didn't start my own "special snowflake" thread.
    Nicely done. And, we bear some of the burden for some of the special snowflake threads. We should have had a thread like this a long time ago.

    I think this is less about personality types and more about new employee vs management.


    1. "Going into your third month" implies a work history of about 8 weeks. Most businesses have a probationary period, usually about 90 days. Keep in mind that your probationary period is sort of an audition. You have to prove you can do the job you said you could when they hired you. During this time you are also being evaluated for other items like appearance, attendance, working well with others, and so on. They're not only looking for someone who can do the job, but someone who is a good fit, and works well with the rest of the department. It's not the time to start jockeying for position, or trying to circumvent your boss (the INTJ).

    2. Your production rate is very impressive. It will get you noticed. I would wait before trying to push for more responsibility. Do what you were hired to do. Going to your boss and saying, "Look, I can do this, instead." this early in the game - You're shooting yourself in the foot. It's saying "I don't really want to do this, I'd rather do that." (then why should they keep you? It's to their advantange to fill the postion with someone who wants do the job.)

    Do what they hired you do to, and do it really well. That's what will get you more responsibilities and opportunities in the future. Going to your boss's boss looks arrogant. Don't do that. If an opportunity arises to discuss your future goals, for example if the ENTJ asks if you are enjoying the work, it's fine to say "Yes, but I have and interest in [whatever] and hope to one day [whatever]. Duly noted.

    3. It depends what your company policy is. Managers usually have some leeway with this sort of thing. It draws negative attention, but you can recover from it. It might carry more negative weight because you are a new employee.

    Personally, I wouldn't be too troubled by one isolated tardy. An hour and half is a bit excessive, though. Everyone gets one free major malfunction before I would take action. It happens. You could be tardy on day one or three years in. When is random. It's not necessarily a reflection of your ability to be responsible and show up on time. Just don't do it again.
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    ENTJ - The Executives

    Do you keep your computer desktop minimal? (I keep the recycle bin in the top left corner and nothing else.)

    How about organizing the rest of your computer?

    How about physical work space? Clean? Neat?

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    ENTJ - The Executives

    Do you keep your computer desktop minimal? (I keep the recycle bin in the top left corner and nothing else.)
    Yes. I have a recycling bin, and 3 - 4 of my most frequently used software programs.

    How about organizing the rest of your computer?
    All neatly organized in labelled folders. Photos are sorted by year and event. Songs are sorted alphabetically by artist. Movies are sorted separate from TV shows.

    How about physical work space? Clean? Neat?
    Always neat. Everything has it's place and within reachable distance. Items I use the most are closer.
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    ENTJ - The Executives

    Quote Originally Posted by stiletto View Post
    Do you keep your computer desktop minimal? (I keep the recycle bin in the top left corner and nothing else.)
    Yes. I have a recycling bin, and 3 - 4 of my most frequently used software programs.

    How about organizing the rest of your computer?
    All neatly organized in labelled folders. Photos are sorted by year and event. Songs are sorted alphabetically by artist. Movies are sorted separate from TV shows.

    How about physical work space? Clean? Neat?
    Always neat. Everything has it's place and within reachable distance. Items I use the most are closer.
    I had a hunch.

    I once knew a guy whose hard drive had no folders, not one, just every file in one big long unorganized list. It made me feel ill.

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    ENTJ - The Executives

    Quote Originally Posted by qyune View Post
    I had a hunch.

    I once knew a guy whose hard drive had no folders, not one, just every file in one big long unorganized list. It made me feel ill.
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