[ENTP] What SPECIAL attributes suits best in ENTP in fallout 4?

What SPECIAL attributes suits best in ENTP in fallout 4?

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    What SPECIAL attributes suits best in ENTP in fallout 4?

    h t t p s : / / homeofmbti.tumblr . com/post/133136157244/cognitive-functions-fallout-special <- (remove the spaces)

    ^ according to this post we would have superior luck, high intelligence, a bit above-average charisma and inferior perception, (the other attributes would be average) what do you think?

    ~sry for the typo hehe~
    Last edited by Falange; 03-03-2018 at 09:44 AM. Reason: Typo



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    I think that that's a joke. And a very poorly done one at that.

    Strength
    Perception
    Endurance
    Charisma
    Intelligence
    Agility
    Luck

    Te = Strength? Fi = Endurance? Si = Perception? Se = Agility?

    Strength is a purely physical trait. It has no bearing here.

    Se has got to be the most dominating in real-world perceiving. So concrete, so direct. So ESTPs and ESFPs should be right in the money on Perception as it is usually classified. "Noticing shit in the real world." Ne is better at alerting on complex scenarios rather than direct observation. Si should be good at noticing things that are happening within you but SPECIAL doesn't really cover that. Si is covered by your pip-boy who tells you what the eff is wrong with you at all times. LoL

    Endurance is a purely physical trait, it has no bearing here. Knowing the signs of your limits might be an Si trait.

    Charisma is a bit challenging, and it really depends on trait combination. IMHO Fe+Se (ENFJ), Ne+Fe (ENTP), Fe+Ne(ESFJ), Se+Fe (ESTP), Te+Se (ENTJ)/(ESTJ) tend to be pretty damn charismatic in different ways. You need an extroverted function in the top of the stack, and would rank charisma based on Fe > Ne > Se > Te in that order. Fi can be charismatic, but I still think it's the dom Se/Ne that really makes Fi stick out.

    Intelligence. This is hard because the definition of "Knowledge, Wisdom, and the ability to think quickly" isn't really a measure of anything. Wisdom, is a complicated concept which happens to cover knowledge...:
    From Merriam Webster-
    a : ability to discern inner qualities and relationships : insight
    b : good sense : judgement
    c : generally accepted belief
    d : accumulated philosophical or scientific learning : knowledge
    Insight is intuition. No intuition, no insight. Ne/Ni/Si.
    Judgement/good sense, I'd argue are Te/Fi.
    Knowledge, Te/Ti.
    Probably in this order if those are equal: Ne+Ti/Ne+Fi/Te+Ni/Ni+Te -> Ti+Ne/Fi+Ne -> Ni+Te/ etc etc.

    Agility is a purely physical concept.

    Luck. I'm touched that they put Ne/Ni at the top of the list, but lets be real. Luck is bs.


    Guess I really didn't answer the question. But P/I out of the 7 is your best. Everything else, w/e.
    Last edited by Desthro; 03-04-2018 at 09:36 AM.

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    As far i know one of the characteristics of the Se is the physical awareness so would help a lot with motor coordinations, so makes sense the agility be an Se factor, also yes strenght is purely physical but the thing is what combat style is prefered for each mbti? maybe some cognitive functions aim more for raw strenght in combat and other prefer be faster and aim the weak spots of the enemy, and luck could be the hability to inconcious see the "domino effect" of things and events and than reshape little things to good events happen to you, like the mind of the luckiest people see an opportunity in the subconscious and react accordingly

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    Quote Originally Posted by Falange View Post
    As far i know one of the characteristics of the Se is the physical awareness so would help a lot with motor coordinations, so makes sense the agility be an Se factor
    Physical Awareness != Physical Capability. There are plenty of ESxPs who are clumsy as F.

    also yes strenght is purely physical but the thing is what combat style is prefered for each mbti? maybe some cognitive functions aim more for raw strenght in combat and other prefer be faster and aim the weak spots of the enemy
    That's grasping at straws. Really? Stereotypical "Strength vs Speed" is utter nonsense. There's a reason the best physical combatants on Earth aren't hulking meatheads or skinny lanky fuckers.

    and luck could be the hability to inconcious see the "domino effect" of things and events and than reshape little things to good events happen to you, like the mind of the luckiest people see an opportunity in the subconscious and react accordingly
    1) You can't unconsciously see anything.
    2) You can't consciously "reshape" things that are unaware of in the first place (that's what unconsciousness is).
    3) You can't consciously see something in your subconscious (it wouldn't be your subconscious then would it?).
    4) You can't consciously react to something you are unaware of.
    5) The "domino effect" of "things and events" is infinitely complex. Infinitely. There is no amount of perception or intelligence that allows one to discern or "guide" the outcome of random events. (This chest I opened happens to have MORE stuff in it because I opened it and not this other guy? Wait, no, what was put in there was predetermined by the person(s) that put the shit there in the first place.)


 

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