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    ENTP

    My Life Bible. Feeling lost? Maybe you'll find something useful here. Or maybe not.

    Hello everyone,

    Brace yourselves. Huge message is coming.

    If you are an ENTP and you are feeling lost, please give this message a shot.

    I may come off a bit harsh, however I am always open to criticism.

    I am an enneagram 8 ENTP, so although I identify a lot with the ENTP description, some things did not feel right from the start, so that is why I considered being an ENTJ or ESTP, but when I saw my enneagram, it finally made sense.

    First of all, I do not understand all that ego stroking I see among ENTPs in the forums. I mean yes, we are good at producing ideas but at the same time REALLY shitty at following through. One realized idea, no matter the outcome, is better than a 1000 ideas that never flourished. Moreover, I feel that we tend to boast that we are jack of all trades. And I actually liked that. I liked that I was good at math/biology/chemistry/philosophy, good at formating/building PCs, knowledgeable about Stock Market, good at almost every sport that I tried. I still like it, and I still get a lot of compliments for it. But, as the saying goes, I was master of none. My unwillingness to commit to a path, or in other words my fear in commiting in the wrong path and not succeeding, was making me a master of none.

    ENTPs think that they are smartasses and I think that most of us aspire to impact the world. However, the statistics have room for few of us, we can't ignore that. Out of 100 aspiring people I've met, 1-2 (maybe 5 if I stretch it?) will actually have a real impact in the world . The rest of them will either endlessly float from one job to another or end up at a typical 9-5 job, come back home to argue with their wife, sleep, repeat the miserable life (ok, exaggerating a bit now, but you get the point).

    As a result, I have to work my chances on my favor if I want to do something more in life.

    What I decided to do in order to tilt the scale to my favor? I constrained my life and my impulses. Pulled my shit together and created fundamental rules that would help me develop my underdeveloped sides. In that way, I've adapted myself to behave a lot like an SJ, unleashing my Ne when needed(Ne is truly magnificent, and it can help you to stand out among your peers, but at the same time it can be the Achilles tendon of an ENTP). I actually came to enjoy these life adjustments. I still have some weird thoughts running wild from time to time, but ever since I've persisted in changing, my life became better and my mental calmness improved. I used to snob Sensing types, thinking of them as idiots, but when I came to realize that the Sensing world has its own beauties, I was more open in embracing that life attitude in everyday tasks (best friend is an ISFJ, and loyal to death, so maybe he had an impact on me after all). And don't misunderstand me, I am not talking about suppressing Ne, I am talking about harnessing it to actually benefit your needs.

    So, these are my life rules, I've decided to share them, because maybe they could help a fellow ENTP who feels unmotivated or "smart but too scatterbrained to succeed" as a teacher once told to my parents (then I went and scored among the first 100 out of 11000 people who were competing for a position in Medicine, in my country, "showing" the middle finger to anyone that doubted me, awesome though petty feeling, I admit). I feel like that they are a bit adjusted to an ENTP, but could apply to anyone. Ever since I followed these simple rules, I became much more content with my life and I got a real sense of moving in the right direction.

    So let's start:
    1) Do something productive by the first hour of waking up, especially in the days when you don't have to go to work/university/school. Small or big does not matter. Feeling tired? At least make your bed and clean your house. Feeling motivated? Learn new Japanese phrases or work out. It may seem like unimportant, but eventually this helped me do much more than one productive thing every day. I start with one small target, like reading 10 pages from a book, but the instant gratification I get from it makes me want to move on to a next one. In that aspect, I'm copying the attitude of Js, who I feel they seem to have their shit together more than Ps. (Yep, there will be chill P days, but if 8/10 times you follow that rule, everything will feel better in the end of the day, because you end the day being better than yesterday)

    2) Learn to appreciate mundane tasks, because they teach you discipline. If you can't wash your clothes, or pay your bills, how the fuck are you going to run a company, or why would the world (dominant S) take your ideas seriously? Moreover, mundane tasks require little brain power, so they give you the opportunity to think your next steps in life, while doing something productive and being active at the same time.

    3)In ANYTHING I choose to commit, I never stop in the middle. NEVER. I used to leave things unfinished, and this lead me nowhere besides obtaining good bullshitting skills. I feel that ENTPs stop their work too early, before the real satisfaction starts. A simple example of this rule: I decided to gain 5kg of lean muscle mass. I started studying about healthy eating, restistance training etc. At first I was enthousiastic, then the second(maybe third) week sticking to it became difficult. But giving up was not a choice. Was it worth it? Although there where times that I was feeling unmotivated, and I wished to stop, in the end it was totally fucking worth it. And actually, now working out became a habit, or as I say a healthy drug. So, yes, take your time to set a goal, but when you set it, do not look back and do not hesitate on your decision. Finally, decide if it was worth it after you reached your goal.

    3) STOP TALKING GODAMMIT. Size up the situation, improve your emotional intelligence. Are people interested in what you have to say? Then talk. Over 80% of communication is non-verbal, so try to understand what people really need from you from their position, their faces, their gestures. Especially if you are around friends, because understanding their needs is fundamental for your friendship. Yep, I know that you feel like ranting about the future of robotic arms and how Elon Musk flew a car to Mars, but, sometimes you just need to shut up, or even show interest in the vroom vroom exhaust your ESTP friend just purchased for his motorbike. Moreover, social connections can sometimes help you to achieve your goals later in life, in ways you can't predict, so try to establish as many as possible.

    4)Take care of your health. Imaging buying a car that you are going to use for the rest of your life. If you take care of it, change oils frequently, put the best quality gas on it then it is going to drive you around with maximum efficacy everyday, without impeding your journey. That car is your body. So start eating healthy, exercising and sleeping well(if you have difficulties in any of these aspects, start reading a lot about them, or you can ask me to send you links). I value my brain a lot, so I maintain a good health not for the sake of being healthy but to be sure that my brain is functioning as efficiently as possible everyday.

    5) Choose the people around you wisely. I feel that having positive people around is of utter importance to your well being. Where do you think a flower will flourish better, at a mundane town or at a green grassland full of sunshine and fertile soil? I can talk for hours about this, but then my message will become unreadable. Oh, and you eventually become what you believe, so take the negative thoughts of other people and shove them up their asses. I'm not saying to never listen to bad criticism, but trust me, if someone really wants to help you become better, his/her criticism won't feel hostile or wrong. I know we are Thinkers, but we are perfectionists at the same time and seek validation, so I think that we have all the potential to become butthurt and bitter on the inside.

    6) You should dress according to the expectations of the audience spoken to. I used to not give a fuck about my appearance, until I realized that it could come in the way of my goals. Now I know enough not to let my clothes, my appearance, my manners get in the way of what I care about. A lot of people feel they must assert their ego and do their thing their way, however, they pay a steady price for that.

    7)Realize that you are a part of a living organism called society. Learn to be polite, learn to smile more, try to cheer people up, learn to unite people. Even if you see it from a materialistic way, one day it will pay of, trust me. The better you try to understand society, the better you will be able to adapt society to your goals, your needs, your desires. Or you can try to fight it and see what you can accomplish (spoiler alert: not much)

    8)Last one and most important. Don't hesitate to set goals and don't hesitate to fail again and again. Even if you want many things, there is always a way to combine them to one goal. I was not sure if I wanted to pursue Business, Medicine, or Scientific research. I thought that I had to choose only one. But, guess what, there are people in the world who combine all of them, few, but they exist. So the wisest thing to do, was pursue Medicine, and then maybe try to combine this career with Business and Research (actually right now I am considering Surgery because I like a bit of action + research to feed my Ne). Did I do the right choice? I think yes but check rule nr 2.

    Will I succeed even after doing all of these? I really do not know, success is a chances game after all, but what I do know is that in the end of my life, I will not be able to blame procrastination or indecisiveness for anything that went wrong. And that alone, makes me feel at ease.


    Finally, as I said, I am open to any questions or criticism you have. I do not think that you will find a hole in my arguments that I haven't already noticed, so the answer will be ready.(well, I am an ENTP after all, a bit arrogance is in my blood). Oh, and not all these rules are mine, some of them I got from speeches of successful people or interesting books. However all of these are adjusted and implemented to serve my life and they seem to work. They look easy, but to put them into your subconscious and function with them in mind is hard, and I am still struggling with some of them from time to time. But as the saying goes, "Easy choices, hard life. Hard choices, easy life."

    That's all folks.

    Hope I was worth your time and thank you for reading all of these.

    P.S. Totally subjective opinion: Medicine, although requiring a lot of memorization, needs us. Don't hesitate to follow it if you are thinking about it. They say it is too rigid and mundane, but compared to other jobs, it is way ahead in terms of diversity and potential, and thus great for an ENTP, if he/she can stand the rigorous training and enjoy the journey. Oh, and you need to kinda like and respect people, to say the least.
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    Thanks for the pep-talk. Look man, it’s really easy to forget just how god damn difficult it was to make yourself “just do the shit you know you should be doing even though you don’t like some of it” when you’re riding high on some success. Which, incidentally, if you wanted to be more concise (also helpful in being successful in a lot of areas) you could have boiled the entire thing down to just that. It’s real easy to say “be goal oriented” or some other platitude, but let’s not forget that the type of success you’re talking about is defined by what is known as “scarcity”. Do I need to explain that to you? No, you talked about being 1/110, right?

    I would say though, that dropping a couple rules down that you could pick up on a Saturday afternoon by crashing a sales conference at your local hotel doesn’t really get at the issue if one can even call it an “issue”. There is a keystone decision to be made upon which all those other things are built. Do you actually want whatever is being defined for you as success? Or, do I value my slovenly ENTP existence as it is - bad habits and all - more than being a doctor, or, god forbid, changing the world. I have things that I want, and some of them require me to follow some of the rules you’ve laid out, but some of them do not.

    It’s a conscious decision, man. It’s not that I don’t know what I could do to alter my life for better or for ill or for what someone might call “success”. I just choose to optimize my own personal consumer utility in the way that makes me the happiest. Sometimes that means leaving shit undone because I realize it was a bad idea. Sometimes that means dressing to go unnoticed or to impress. Sometimes it does mean shutting the fuck up and sometimes the joy I find in being a blabber mouth is worth any number of bullets to my foot. Just some examples.

    I wouldn’t jump to the conclusion that everyone is ignorant of what they could or couldn’t have and just don’t know any better. Give ENTPs a little more credit than that.
    Last edited by Haldir; 01-26-2019 at 08:37 PM. Reason: Frozen fingers

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    Quote Originally Posted by Haldir View Post
    Thanks for the pep-talk. Look man, it’s really easy to forget just how god damn difficult it was to make yourself “just do the shit you know you should be doing even though you don’t like some of it” when you’re riding high on some success. Which, incidentally, if you wanted to be more concise (also helpful in being successful in a lot of areas) you could have boiled the entire thing down to just that. It’s real easy to say “be goal oriented” or some other platitude, but let’s not forget that the type of success you’re talking about is defined by what is known as “scarcity”. Do I need to explain that to you? No, you talked about being 1/110, right?

    I would say though, that dropping a couple rules down that you could pick up on a Saturday afternoon by crashing a sales conference at your local hotel doesn’t really get at the issue if one can even call it an “issue”. There is a keystone decision to be made upon which all those other things are built. Do you actually want whatever is being defined for you as success? Or, do I value my slovenly ENTP existence as it is - bad habits and all - more than being a doctor, or, god forbid, changing the world. I have things that I want, and some of them require me to follow some of the rules you’ve laid out, but some of them do not.

    It’s a conscious decision, man. It’s not that I don’t know what I could do to alter my life for better or for ill or for what someone might call “success”. I just choose to optimize my own personal consumer utility in the way that makes me the happiest. Sometimes that means leaving shit undone because I realize it was a bad idea. Sometimes that means dressing to go unnoticed or to impress. Sometimes it does mean shutting the fuck up and sometimes the joy I find in being a blabber mouth is worth any number of bullets to my foot. Just some examples.

    I wouldn’t jump to the conclusion that everyone is ignorant of what they could or couldn’t have and just don’t know any better. Give ENTPs a little more credit than that.
    Quite respectable points. You are "successful", from your own unique point of view, which I totally respect. Actually, "success" is a weird word, it doesn't feel right, maybe I shouldn't have used this word from the beginning. What I am talking about is feeling content and satisfied with yourself and your actions. So, to rephrase, I am sharing what makes me content in the end of the day. And if I can benefit, or encourage, one person with what I said, then it is more than enough for me. Because being full of nihilism and feeling lost in life is something I really wouldn't wish to anyone.

    However, I wouldn't diminish what I said as "couple of rules that I picked crashing at a sales conference", because it took time to me to try a lot of things, fail, see what works, see what makes me happy etc and finally end up with these thoughts. But, it is just me, and of course someone else might find them too general or unmeaningful. Besides, that is what makes our world beautiful, diversity.

    Oh, and of course what I am talking about is scarcity, who is really willing to do what I am suggesting?(I know that you were probably talking about the scarcity of my abilities, but on the contrary, I want to point out the scarcity of my actions, which maybe define the scarcity of my abilities in the end)

    P.S. Today, I did not do anything productive in the morning. Just woke up and watched Djokovic-Nadal(awesome match btw). It's not that I am suggesting to be totally rigid with these rules, but what I am suggesting is to have them in mind when you want to make excuses that divert you from the path of evolving and becoming a better version of yourself.

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    I understand what you’re getting at, @Shingeki . And I know you’re not trying to put out a self-help book any time soon. It’s a natural response to want to share something that has given you a sense of satisfaction, and I don’t fault you for it. I have just spoken to enough NTPs irl and otherwise to know that it’s nice to hear the other platitude that if what you want, or who you are, doesn’t make everyone want to tell their friend about you that’s okay.

    As far as “scarcity” I was using it in the economic sense (I’m paraphrasing here from my memory) meaning the existence of a certain desired commodity at any given time. There are only so many people that can do what you do right now, and the fewer there are the more valuable it is (in many cases - please, ENTP commenters, don’t point out the exceptions to the rule, I’m sure you’re awesome at something obscure that no one cares about and you can’t make money at). Whether that’s your skill set (as you mentioned) or you were just born looking a certain way I would call that an aspect of scarcity. It is what makes “diversity” cool. I’m speaking in platitudes again here, but the idea that everyone’s diverse being can add something is what is really central to the self-esteem movement (which i’m Not a huge fan of because the ability to do what I’m about to say next is also scarce). The problem is that sometimes you DO have to come to terms with the fact that not enough people find that scarce thing about you to be of significant monetary value. However, that is also okay. You can still be happy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shingeki View Post
    ENTPs think that they are smartasses and I think that most of us aspire to impact the world. However, the statistics have room for few of us, we can't ignore that. Out of 100 aspiring people I've met, 1-2 (maybe 5 if I stretch it?) will actually have a real impact in the world . The rest of them will either endlessly float from one job to another or end up at a typical 9-5 job, come back home to argue with their wife, sleep, repeat the miserable life (ok, exaggerating a bit now, but you get the point) .
    It's wonderful you came up with this list and that it's something that has been helpful to you. Thanks for sharing! One thing I just wanted to highlight was that I think most people this day and age want to feel like they're making an impact. I would disagree with the statement above that only 1-2 out of 100 will actually have a true impact on the world. Perhaps if you're only looking at "impact" meaning heading up some major international humanitarian non-profit or something. I truly do think that each one of us has the power to impact this world. Maybe not popular to write on an ENTP board, but I think helping others out and making this world a kinder place definitely makes an impact. Not saying this has to work for you, but I would think about what the little things you do that make a difference in someone's day are and start counting that as making an impact. If you need it to be on a larger scale for it to have a sexier title and feel more important than obviously go for it, just here to tell you you're probably already making a difference without realizing it.

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    ENTP

    Great argument @SummerRoads . You ESFJs are real rainbows, making our world a little less gloomy, I like having you around. I just think that you should take more into account the word "aspire" I used. For me, "aspire" entails something more than just improving my microenvironment. However, when I see people that truly care about the little things, helping their neighbor, comforting their friend, taking care of their grandma etc, I really appreciate and admire them. And come to think of it, if everyone did the little things needed to improve his immediate environment, then noone would even talk about changing the world. In that way, of course everyone that follows that path deserves utmost respect. I do not even think that it is easy. Moreover, I really think that you can follow that mindset your whole life and be happier than I'll ever be. (but remember, in my example I am talking about people who aspire something higher, hence the percentage, and I feel that many ENTPs fall in this category)

    All in all, I've thought about it and came to the conclusion that what you are saying will not sustain me long-term, I want to at least test the limits of my capabilities and see where this goes.
    Last edited by Shingeki; 01-27-2019 at 03:30 PM.

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    ENTP - The Visionaries

    So let's see how I measure up:

    1) Do something productive by the first hour of waking up, especially in the days when you don't have to go to work/university/school.

    That's already when I'm often most productive and get the most work done. I might sleep in, but when I wake up, I usually get straight to work or exercise. I'm not one to watch tv and lounge around in the morning. ....though I will tend to focus on work around house that will cause me to still be in pjs till the afternoon.

    "Feeling tired?" not an issue...I'm a coffee fiend.

    2) Learn to appreciate mundane tasks, because they teach you discipline.


    I agree w/ this .... makes sense on paper.... but I still lack discipline to do mundane things and not put them off ... I keep working at it, but that will always be my weakness.

    3)In ANYTHING I choose to commit, I never stop in the middle.

    I agree.... and not an issue... I'm def someone who operates by being all or none. Either I'm giving it my all or I can't motivate myself to put any effort. I hate half assing anything. I naturally can't operate any other way.

    3) STOP TALKING GODAMMIT.

    I tend towards being a quiet anti-social person .. so not an issue for me. I can def be very talkative when I do open up.. but there's few people I open up to.

    4)Take care of your health.

    Agree completely. I am 1/2 good at this I would say. I exercise, eat healthy, am conscious about that stuff.... but I also do stuff like not get any sleep and such.

    5) Choose the people around you wisely.

    :( I don't have any people around me. My problem is lack of people around me.

    6) You should dress according to the expectations of the audience spoken to.

    Something else I don't think applies to me. I always prefer to be over dressed than underdressed. I find business casual dress shirts and pants shoes to be the most comfortable and easiest clothes to wear. And while I can be lazy about a lot of stuff w/ cleanliness like clutter in my room hygiene has always been a priority ... so don't think this is an issue for me.

    7)Realize that you are a part of a living organism called society.

    No man's an island. I think this is something that is obvious to entps... but most other people seem oddly obvlivious to.

    8)Last one and most important. Don't hesitate to set goals and don't hesitate to fail again and again.

    Been working on a singular goal for the last 10+ yrs.


    ...so a lot of this felt like preaching to the choir for me, telling me things I already naturally live by.

    Only thing that I need to work on is "2) Learn to appreciate mundane tasks" ...but that's something that is always going to be a weakness.

    I appreciate this list even if it wasn't that helpful to me :)

    I always strive to better myself and really like when other people strive to better themselves (that's prob the characteristic I like most in others). And I'm guessing if you're anything like me, writing out everything you did it meant just as much or more to help you organize your thoughts for yourself than it is to share w/ others... so I'm sure there'd be tons of value in writing all that out even if you didn't share it w/ us.

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    ENTP - The Visionaries

    A few more comments regarding your 1st paragraph:
    Quote Originally Posted by Shingeki View Post
    First of all, I do not understand all that ego stroking I see among ENTPs in the forums.
    I think that mostly comes from people who are not actually ENTPs who a label themselves and then take pride in the positive entp stereotypes because they think being labeled entp makes them somehow clever or whatever.

    ..actual entps don't need that title to tell them whatever or not they're clever and charming ... we know how we are (sometimes charming and clever when the planets align, but just as or more often bumbling assholes)... actual entps are more concerned about the negative aspects and how learning about their types and other people w/ their type can help them to improve on their weaknesses ... like the things you mention in your OP.

    Quote Originally Posted by Shingeki View Post
    I mean yes, we are good at producing ideas but at the same time REALLY shitty at following through. One realized idea, no matter the outcome, is better than a 1000 ideas that never flourished.
    I think most ENTPs ( or at least myself) are very aware of this dilemma we face... we got great ideas... but what good are they if we don't actually accomplish anything?

    I know myself I have grandiose ambitions and it's def a struggle... constantly I'm scolding myself in my head w/ things along the lines of "If you can't wash your clothes, or pay your bills, how the fuck are you going to run a company, or why would the world (dominant S) take your ideas seriously? "

    ... the prob is simply being aware of the problem doesn't help us to fix our problems. And I think these character flaws are prob pretty obvious to most of us entps... at least the ones a few yrs over 20. There is still value though I think us pointing it out to each other, even if we're still aware of it... helps motivate us to focus on those weaknesses and work harder at them.

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    ENTP - The Visionaries

    I think one of the things about ENTPs ( or at least my own) style of operation is that we don't stick to just one strategy... if a strategy isn't working then we take up a new strategy ...so as a result that can look a lot not accomplishing anything.

    So for instance if I have a major goal I am shooting for in life... if one path/strategy isn't working than I will try another, if that doesn't work than I will try another ... and so on .... and as I bounce from one strategy to another it just looks like I'm floundering.

    Myself I've been trying to write and self publish a book since 2009. During that time it's been a struggle figuring out how to make a living. I've bounced around from one job to another... at some times focusing on writing and trying to achieve that main goal... at other times, trying to pursue more practical goals, putting writing on back burner and focusing trying to pursue jobs that I'd hoped would allow me to live comfortably so that I could write in free time.... to no avail. In a few months I'll be unemployed w/ a lil money saved w/ the hopes that this time unemployed focusing on writing ( 3rd such time) I'll finish book and publish it. I've never lost sight of my main goal... but I've changed my strategy multiple times... to someone looking at me from the outside it might look like I've been drifting and not sticking to any goal... but in reality I've been pursue the same singular goal the whole time.

    Other entps might not be sticking to one goal... but for those of us who are, I think it might not often look like we are since we change our strategy which can make it look like we have different goals.
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    ENTP - The Visionaries

    I am going to play the devils advocate on this. Some of what I say
    I believe to be true. As in all things..grain of salt.

    Quote Originally Posted by Shingeki View Post
    Hello everyone,

    Brace yourselves. Huge message is coming.
    Compared to some of my post your post is a header.

    Quote Originally Posted by Shingeki View Post
    If you are an ENTP and you are feeling lost, please give this message a shot.
    If an ENTP ever feels found? The first item they will do is get lost.
    Lest they fall victim to their own mind. Either that or they
    will turn into pure energy and go ethereal.

    Quote Originally Posted by Shingeki View Post
    I may come off a bit harsh, however I am always open to criticism.
    Spoken like a true NTP.


    Quote Originally Posted by Shingeki View Post
    I am an enneagram 8 ENTP, so although I identify a lot with the ENTP description, some things did not feel right from the start, so that is why I considered being an ENTJ or ESTP, but when I saw my enneagram, it finally made sense.
    You may not choose who you are. It was chosen for you.
    What ya gunna do about that?
    (If I understand correctly..Jung is more personal extraction of type. M&B? Not so much)
    If using Jung to ascertain Type you need to take of the PJ's. (always wanted to use that)


    Quote Originally Posted by Shingeki View Post
    First of all, I do not understand all that ego stroking I see among ENTPs in the forums. I mean yes, we are good at producing ideas but at the same time REALLY shitty at following through. One realized idea, no matter the outcome, is better than a 1000 ideas that never flourished. Moreover, I feel that we tend to boast that we are jack of all trades. And I actually liked that. I liked that I was good at math/biology/chemistry/philosophy, good at formating/building PCs, knowledgeable about Stock Market, good at almost every sport that I tried. I still like it, and I still get a lot of compliments for it. But, as the saying goes, I was master of none. My unwillingness to commit to a path, or in other words my fear in commiting in the wrong path and not succeeding, was making me a master of none.
    Although it may be frustrating to see that we are good at some items, great at others yet never a master?
    It is that idea of a person to me that makes a person a well adapted being. I mean think about it.
    You are commiting to a path. A path of exploration. I fail to see how learning a lot about everything
    is less relevant then learning a ton about one thing. I would argue that constant exploration
    is far more fulfilling. If not at the end of every year it certainly is at the end of everyday.

    Fear of commiting to a path due to a self induced fear of failure is stupid.
    Stop it. Failure is a way too learn properly. Anyone can parrot others
    correctly. Who gives a care about that? 100% certain you will never master anything
    worth mastering if fear of failure has rested in your psyche. All we
    have is failure as it is a recognition of actual. Success as well.
    In the current context anyhow.

    If I fail 10 times I have succeeded in 10 ways. Assuming
    I recognize the failures as such.

    Quote Originally Posted by Shingeki View Post
    ENTPs think that they are smartasses and I think that most of us aspire to impact the world. However, the statistics have room for few of us, we can't ignore that. Out of 100 aspiring people I've met, 1-2 (maybe 5 if I stretch it?) will actually have a real impact in the world . The rest of them will either endlessly float from one job to another or end up at a typical 9-5 job, come back home to argue with their wife, sleep, repeat the miserable life (ok, exaggerating a bit now, but you get the point).
    I find this statement charged for making one feel better about not achieving.
    Your statement seems to be tied to inventing something or saving the damsel
    from King Kong at the top of a tower. Possibly being that guy who drives the
    airplane into the alien ship and saves humanity. Here's a truth for you;

    I have two inventions under my belt. I have less than a grade 8 education.
    I have a 20 year successful marriage. I have two adult boys both of which
    are achieving fulfillment. You know what my biggest achievement was to
    my mind? My family. Not my work. Not my inventions. Not anything I thought
    may matter.

    How can one define "impact" nay grasp for great things
    when great things are not defined by anything other than what the persons deems
    recognizable by the masses? Great things should start from within and need
    not be witnessed. Great things happen they are not calculated. Furthermore
    great things and impact are certainly not exclusive to what may be right and/or just.



    Quote Originally Posted by Shingeki View Post
    So let's start:
    1) Do something productive by the first hour of waking up, especially in the days when you don't have to go to work/university/school. Small or big does not matter. Feeling tired? At least make your bed and clean your house. Feeling motivated? Learn new Japanese phrases or work out. It may seem like unimportant, but eventually this helped me do much more than one productive thing every day. I start with one small target, like reading 10 pages from a book, but the instant gratification I get from it makes me want to move on to a next one. In that aspect, I'm copying the attitude of Js, who I feel they seem to have their shit together more than Ps. (Yep, there will be chill P days, but if 8/10 times you follow that rule, everything will feel better in the end of the day, because you end the day being better than yesterday)

    2) Learn to appreciate mundane tasks, because they teach you discipline. If you can't wash your clothes, or pay your bills, how the fuck are you going to run a company, or why would the world (dominant S) take your ideas seriously? Moreover, mundane tasks require little brain power, so they give you the opportunity to think your next steps in life, while doing something productive and being active at the same time.
    Its an SJ world no doubt. Although I agree that to live within it and achieve what
    they deem acceptable is/can be important. Never let that truncate you.

    I will never appreciate mundane task. Nor should I. They are mundane.
    By very definition appreciate eludes them. May I recognize that they
    may be needed for a larger goal? Heck yeah! Appreciate them? Not
    in 10000000000000 NTP life times. You dont need to wash clothes to
    run a company. You dont need to be good at cleaning to have a great job.
    You dont have to make your bed to be rich. You dont have to do dishes to
    feel fulfilled.

    If that helps? Well that may be. Yet I do none of the above.
    I feel great! Actually quite happy I dont do mundane task.
    I feel as if I would rather spend that time daydreaming.


    Sheesh ... I am only through step two .. damn.

    Well heck.. they pay me to be here so I best go work for a bit...
    BBL.

    Nice to see another ENTP around. Welcome.
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