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This is a discussion on GOOD Examples of ENTPs in Media? within the ENTP Forum- The Visionaries forums, part of the NT's Temperament Forum- The Intellects category; Hello, ENTP forum! I'm a bit infatuated with this type, always have been. Never met one in real life, though, ...

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    GOOD Examples of ENTPs in Media?

    Hello, ENTP forum! I'm a bit infatuated with this type, always have been. Never met one in real life, though, sadly, and so I haven't gotten a chance to get a good feel for how you guys ACTUALLY act outside of what I hear from others' experience. And, being an ISFP, the best way for me to learn about a type is to sink my teeth right in myself!

    So, since I lack the ability to really seek out any ENTPs in real life (I live in a small town in Indiana and suffer from severe social anxiety!), I figured, for now, the next best thing is to find movies, TV shows, etc. that have good, in-depth examples of ENTPs that I can sort of analyze instead.

    I'm mostly looking for characters who are explored well in their source material, that will give me a good feel for how the type acts in real life, and will give me insight into the inner workings of the type. Nothing that fits the stereotype. No Junkrats, for example. You get it.

    Do you guys have anything that fits the bill?



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    If I was a character you'd just watch me think for months with no idea of what it's about. Then one day I'd write a thing that makes no sense if you don't know what it's for, then I go back to thinking. Then I start an activity and you don't get what I'm trying to achieve. Years later, it starts to make sense to you. Years later, you realize it wasn't what you thought it was about, but it's too late you missed the wagon. What you think is amazing about me is no big deal, as for my biggest achievements, you won't see their value.

    That's why there is no fictional character of me. The only person I don't bore is myself.
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    That's kind of a wild claim, in my opinion! That's like if I asked for ISTP fictional character examples, and my ISTP dad came on here and said ISTPs are too "boring" to make a character of because all they do is spend months procrastinating on their real responsibilities and watching TV instead, because that's what he does. Like, yeah, sure, that is a real part of his personality, but fiction opts to leave out the less exciting parts of EVERYONE. That's why you don't usually see every time a character goes to the bathroom or goes to sleep, etc., unless you're in a David Cage game, which are widely regarded as, uh, less than great. Because these details generally don't tell us much about the characters involved, don't move the plot forward, and therefore aren't necessary to include.

    There's a lot more to ENTP as a type than what you've described, a lot more to explore, (though I'm sure that aspect of the type has been explored by someone, somewhere, but that's beside the point) and so I'm certain that some ENTP on this forum has found characters that have resonated with them. Because there is an ungodly amount of fiction in the world, and only 16 types for people to squeeze into. Someone along the way is bound to have written SOME realistic portrayal of an ENTP, surely.

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    My thinking process is certainly interesting, but only I know how I built my breakthroughs and it also happened because I'm not mentally built to go into details and write novels and shit. The people who can do that cannot imagine how I did it, they'll just imagine how they would have. Only what's left to describe is the surfacing breakthrough, which is a slow sporadic process that won't change the world brutally so there's no movie material here.

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    I don't know if you are going to find fleshed out ENTPs. That's kind of the the beauty of ENTPs .
    Examples of ENTPs in fiction/media in my opinion:

    1. Dumbledore
    2. Gandalf
    3. Jon Stewart
    4. Chandler (Friends)
    5. Bayaz (The Blade Itself)

    someone will say that some of these are debatable. To those I say, whatever. There's only so much you can do with a character is displayed 2-dimensionally with very little back-story. and I see/relate to the Healthy ENTP in these characters.
    Point is... The ENTPs in fiction are going to be mostly 1-2 dimensional. I'm not aware of any ENTP that is going to be so prominent in the story as to be undebatable on their type and an example to those who want instruction in the innerworkings of an ENTP. :)


    editI would disagree with the previous poster, and say ENTPs do make for interesting characters. But they are as interesting as they are mystical. I think if a book tried to dive to deeply into an ENTP character (like some of the ones listed above), they would lose that mystique and be less interesting.

    Kind of like that movie on Netflix about this thing that people see and it causes them to kill themselves, but we the audience never actually see what it is. It is better that way because any attempt to create a concrete representation of it would just let it down. it is better to let our own minds create the horror in the abstract (aided with crazy sketches by the lunatic that don't actually "capture" the beast but more of its essence) than try and show it to our senses. the only way to possibly to do the monster justice, would be to make it so horrifying that we the audience would kill ourselves as well... and we don't want that. Nightmare Fuel.
    Same with the ENTP...
    I think other types are more suitable for having their back stories explored. ENTPs are better left to the imagination.
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    Is the swap of Se for Ne really that huge? There are plenty of intriguing main-cast ESTP characters in fiction who undergo real character development throughout their respective stories while showing off beautiful examples of how the cognitive functions can work together (or fail miserably to work together -- unhealthy depictions of low Fe-using types are the most interesting and gripping to me). What about Ne/Si makes that impossible to do? Why isn't that change as significant in other sibling types, such as in ENFP->ESFP or INFP->ISFP?

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    Cross "Family Guy" humor with Albert Einsteins intelligence and you have an ENTP. Its wierd and indescribable!
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    Quote Originally Posted by bokuto View Post
    Is the swap of Se for Ne really that huge? There are plenty of intriguing main-cast ESTP characters in fiction who undergo real character development throughout their respective stories while showing off beautiful examples of how the cognitive functions can work together (or fail miserably to work together -- unhealthy depictions of low Fe-using types are the most interesting and gripping to me). What about Ne/Si makes that impossible to do? Why isn't that change as significant in other sibling types, such as in ENFP->ESFP or INFP->ISFP?
    Absolutely it is. SPs are much more entertaining characters than NTs. Especially in this day and age. You think about just from the 4 temperament perspective. SPs are entertaining. They can be irresponsible in a way that makes for entertaining stories. They can be hedonistic. etc. These are the characters of sitcoms, etc. they do things that are fun/based on how they feel (in the Se sense) and then have to learn lesson.

    SJs are good to throw in as secondary characters. In general they are probably not going to be the primary characters because they already have their act together in the eyes of the world. I mean they are the world. They are society. Good to have them in there to appeal to majority. but also they are probably going to be picked at for being so... SJ-like.

    NFs and NTs tend to be the more mystical/dull/crazy characters. therapists, advisors, scientists, wizards, mystics, etc. they tend to be unrelatable to most of the population, and also tend to play more of teaching/guiding role than a learning role. at least for the characters that come to my mind. I welcome anyone to post counter examples to what I'm saying because, those would be good responses to this thread.

    For a good example of what I am saying, take the popular show Friends. all the "Friends" are either SP or SJ (specific types debated, but temperaments are consistently SP and SJ) except Phoebe who most see as a NF and Chandler which everyone sees an an ENTP.

    Same with Seinfeld where Kramer might be an ENTP and George an NF or NT. but everyone else is an SP or SJ

    Everybody Loves Raymond they are all SJ and SP. This might be the exception with main characters being SJs, but it works, some argue, because the SJs subscribe to different societies. Debra is a Feminist whereas the mother-in-law (marie) is not. and so they are both SJs of their own cultures being forced to interact. Raymond is an SP.

    Numb3rs: Charlie and Larry are NTs, but everyone else is probably SPs

    I think SP just makes for a more relatable and entertaining character to most people with more relatable and entertaining stories for everyone. I can't say why the Se would make the difference. But perhaps it has something to do with the SPs being a bit more "stereotypically" shallow, or on the surface), (these are tv show charicatures of types), as in it is a bit quicker and easier to identify their feelings and motives, and they are just more "of this world" than an ENTP is. If that possibly makes sense.
    And I don't mean this in any insulting way. SPs are more complex, I'm sure, than TV portrays them, just like any other type. And Just like with any type, there are times when the SP attitude is a good thing. I often wish I could live in the pleasure of the here and now the an SP "stereotypically" does rather than watching time slip through my fingers as I do a lot of nothing except think, study, read, etc.
    I often wish I did more to get out there and have fun in the here and now.
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    Seth Rogan is probably ENTP.


    An ENTP famous for being an ENTP. Right off the bat he does what the guy in the next video I linked is all about.


    Another ENTP famous for being an ENTP. Right in the beginning he explains a major ENTP thing to do.


     


    Another ENTP...famous for being an ENTP.


     

    2 ENTPs famous for being ENTPs


     

    Fictional Famous ENTP, famous for being an ENTP.






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    Quote Originally Posted by grandpa2390 View Post
    and Chandler which everyone sees an an ENTP.
    The heck is chandler doing to deserve the N

    There are no Ns in Friends.
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