ENTP- are any fellow young ENTP's having a hard time deciding on a career?

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This is a discussion on ENTP- are any fellow young ENTP's having a hard time deciding on a career? within the ENTP Forum- The Visionaries forums, part of the NT's Temperament Forum- The Intellects category; I can't for the life of me figure out anything that I want to do for a living. Not only ...

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    ENTP - The Visionaries

    ENTP- are any fellow young ENTP's having a hard time deciding on a career?

    I can't for the life of me figure out anything that I want to do for a living.

    Not only that but I feel that college would be a waste of time because of it's cost, along with my slipping work ethic when it comes to school. Then again I went to a high school where I was taught to conform for four years, but from what I hear that's pretty much what high school was made for.

    Classes bore me, even the college courses I'm enrolled in now, and the idea of partaking in another four years of education in the America school system makes me want to drop out and save up for a car.

    Is anyone having similar problems?
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    ENTP - The Visionaries

    Yes. First I thought I wanted to be a doctor (my father told me to), then as I got older and stopped caring about my parents I wanted to be a lawyer, then I learned that being a lawyers is not what you think it is (lots of paperwork, it's best suited to the ISTJ). Now I don't know what I want to do.

    I'm definitely going to college. Of the ENTPs I've spoken to, they ALL say that things improved dramatically when they went to college. It's probably related to the fact that:

    1. You are away from your parents, who probably hate you (am I right?)
    2. You have more freedom in class choices
    3. You have more freedom in studying methods
    4. You have intelligent professors who like to be challenged and encourage you to think critically

    Definitely going to college! As for career options, I was thinking about advertising or writing comedy for TV, but as in all creative jobs, it's somewhat risky (lots of money on the top, very little everywhere else).

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    ENTP - The Visionaries

    While this post may be a little bit late, this is exactly why I joined this forum. All my life I have been an ENTP, and on one of my favorite websites (personality pages) the description fits me to a T. (no pun intended :-) Actually, there is no question about my extroversion or my perception. On some scales I've scored as high as 99% in both of these areas. And about 75% intuition.

    But depending on my mood, or the occurrences that happen in my life, I can be a 51% Thinker or a 51% Feeler. This has always been a struggle for me, go with my head or go with my heart. In my relationship world, I am definitely a open book and very responsive to my feelings, but after attending law school from 1999 -- 2002 I was more of a Thinker. After spending the last six years working in social services, it allowed me to use my law degree in my more logical thinking but I did it to serve individuals with disabilities or those that were low income. Along the way, my Feeling area grew and grew. I now have a very hard time deciding whether or not I want to be labeled "The Visionary" or at the "The Inspirer". This is also one of my dilemmas.

    I resigned from my job on April 1, with actually know leads anywhere. The job that I did for 18 months was driving me crazy. This is where knowing your personality really helps. I worked for an organization that had 15 employees, and we were micromanaged down to every 15 minutes. We worked an eight hour day that was divided up into 32 units, or every 15 minutes. Every day on our timesheet we had to have 32 units and document exactly what we did, who we talked to, what we mailed out, what we researched, and every two weeks when it came to turn in the timesheet I was always short on units. It was either because I did not enter them in because I went on to the next project, or the 45 minute conversation I had with a woman or client would probably be frowned upon if I listed it. I realized that it was not my calling.

    A coworker of mine that I really respect turned me onto a guy by the name of Dan Hill. He has a book and a website that's called 48 Days to the Work You Love. I highly recommend it. Not only does it start off by identifying those things which you are passionate about, but also down to your gifts, talents, strengths, and weaknesses. It helps you think "outside the box". But it also has very practical common sense approaches to sending out introductory letters, resumes, interview tips, and follow-up letters. It's very much like Dave Ramsey.

    So some ideas that I gathered from this book that might help you my friend, or whether some of the subjects that you can talk about for two hours and are very passionate about? What is a topic or an area that you know so well that you could probably write 20 pages about it? What are all the jobs that you have ever had and the things that you enjoyed most about them? Once you start "pointing your compass" towards your passions, then it is like a mosaic and it is revealed to you -- the big picture.

    The problem with our personality types is that we have a restless spirit, and we are talented in many different areas, and unfortunately while we may be a jack of all trades, it's hard to pin us down to a desk job working 9-to-5 40 hours a week without giving us some autonomy. We are the visionaries. So I suggest that you not try to figure out the rest of your life in the next 48 hours, but rather breathe, sleep, exercise, and then do daily hours of research on the topic so I listed above: your passions, your talents, your skills, your strengths... and research areas that involve growth or program development because we kind of like to be our own boss. I know you mentioned that you do not want to go back to school, trust me, I can totally relate. I did not want to go to law school but I did not know what to do with a history degree. So one thing that I've always loved is teaching. And there is a definite need for good teachers. One thing I'm trying to decide is what my audience would be. High school kids, college-age kids, or students in law school. At the same time after having developed my resume and cover letter, I am shooting out 15 to 20 cover letters and resumes a week. Don't even bother looking online for jobs, because one of the little tidbits of advice is that if you wait to see a job posted somewhere you're already behind the curve. Market yourself and your skills and the job will come to you. With your personality profile, you can do just about anything from starting your own business to managing a growing company or helping them grow. You do not have to figure this all out overnight. You also don't have to stay with the company for more than a year if you are not happy. Nobody should ever work just for a paycheck. When you do that, and are unsatisfied with your work, other areas of your life will start to become depleted. Physically, emotionally, relationships, exercise, social... it just isn't worth it and in this economy it may be a great idea to go back to school and work on an advanced degree that specializes in an area that you are already well versed in but want that certificate to prove it. As I write this, I hope it helps, but it is also a way for me to "journal" my thoughts as well. Best of luck!
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    ENTP - The Visionaries

    Depends on what your definition of "young" is. If by young, you mean 14, I'm all ears. ;D

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    ENTP - The Visionaries

    I've thought about being a air traffic controller, an adventure guide, a journalist, buying and running a franchise, a lawyer, a photographer, make my own path, a nuclear engineer, and now I've pretty much decided I'll look at doing something fun, and then become a professor at an university when it's time to settle down. I'm not going to be a hundred percent happy with myself if I don't do something adventurous for while, I'd love to have josh gate's job, and you only live once so. I'm going to go for something I can travel and do field research, and then settle at a nice university to start a family, may not be the 6 figure income I really want but, the possibility is there if I play my cards right and if not I'll still be happy life. (I'm sure I'll make enough to be comfortable.)
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    INTP - The Thinkers

    I'm an INTP who didn't know what he wanted as a career when he was a teenager and doesn't know what he wants as a career and is beta testing 30. There is no law that says you have to do one specific thing for income for the rest of your life.
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    ENTP - The Visionaries

    Not really a hard time, I mean the best careers for an ENTP...

    *counts on fingers* You've got your dictators, your tyrants, your overlords, your lawyers.

    It's fairly straightforward. It's the laziness to overcome, really. Lazy rulers are always getting 'overthrown',
    or 'exiled', or 'beheaded' or 'sued'.


    It's a thankless job.

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    ENTP - The Visionaries

    The best is to assume you're going to want to change jobs frequently, and then plan accordingly. I have a similar view on marriage, as I know I'm probably going to want to change wives frequently
    MOGwok, CJ99, The Dude and 4 others thanked this post.

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    Unknown Personality

    i've narrowed it down. psychologist, philosophy professor, or entrepreneur...and maybe some acting on the side.
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    ENTP - The Visionaries

    Get used to changing jobs or professions. It's not just part of our personality or in our DNA, it's also part of the economy today. In this book that I am reading, the average person stays in the job 3.5 years or changes jobs 15 to 17 times in their lifetime. For people like us, that are talented and interested in lots of different areas that is going to be also apparent in relationships with the opposite sex. I can date a girl for 18 months, but then I get restless and start to withdraw. Same thing in my careers. They are fun for about 18 months and then I get bored with the routine. I think being a psychologist, counselor, lawyer, entrepreneur are all great professions because you're dealing with different people every day in different situations. We are not the scientists, data crunchers, routine or remedial work. Dream big! And it doesn't matter if you're 14, 44, or 85, our personalities do not change that much, we can modify our behavior but that's only going to frustrate us in the end if we are not true to ourselves.

    The bottom line is to pursue your passion no matter how distant or unrealistic it is. You know the old phrase, it's the thrill of the hunt not the actual capture. When it has come to finding a job, dating a girl, picking out an apartment or house, deciding on which school to go to, we can see the opportunities in all different areas, and there is excitement. But if things become stagnant you have to change. And depending on how extroverted you are, if you're not working with people you are going to be miserable. Never look for a job where you are stuck behind a desk working 8 to 5 or staring at a computer screen all day. We need social interaction. Like a flower needs sunlight.
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