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This is a discussion on ESFJ Chit Chat within the ESFJ Forum - The Caregivers forums, part of the SJ's Temperament Forum- The Overseers category; Originally Posted by Sophi @ orion83uk it seems all the ESFJs have found a different forum. Well, that's okay! I've ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sophi View Post
    @orion83uk it seems all the ESFJs have found a different forum.

    Well, that's okay!

    I've thought about doing a road trip too, and going to the Grand Canyon and California. I always wanted to go to the red wood forest. It would be great if I could go camping there! But it probably isn't allowed knowing California lol. And I know it doesn't exist, but if there was a hotel carved into the remains of a giant redwood tree, that would be sooooooooooo cool.

    Have you learned any other languages BTW? You said you live in Scotland, is that right? Can you speak Gaelic? I technically have roots from Scotland, and my dad found the village we were originally from (I can't remember the name). He wants to buy a kilt and go to there for some village festival. I told him that would be so weird lol.

    I'm currently studying Korean. It's a really fun language, but quite difficult for an English Speaker.
    It is a quiet area this. I'm not on here often either, hence my low post count too.

    The grand canyon would be cool! Only seen it in photos Does California have strict rules on wild camping? Oh, and if not a hotel, then perhaps some sort of overly elaborate tree house hotel :-P

    I'm ashamed to admit I don't know any other languages beyond English. I don't know how to speak Gaelic either - believe it or not, its not taught in schools generally here in Scotland, at least not in the central belt. Mainly its just the north west coats and north Western Isles (Outer Hebrides) that speak it fluently. You'll need to ask your Dad what the name of the village was for me :-)

    I've heard Korean, as well as Japanese and Chinese are quite challenging. Are you at the point where you can have a basic conversation yet or still starting out?

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    ESFJ

    Quote Originally Posted by orion83uk View Post
    It is a quiet area this. I'm not on here often either, hence my low post count too.

    The grand canyon would be cool! Only seen it in photos Does California have strict rules on wild camping? Oh, and if not a hotel, then perhaps some sort of overly elaborate tree house hotel :-P

    I'm ashamed to admit I don't know any other languages beyond English. I don't know how to speak Gaelic either - believe it or not, its not taught in schools generally here in Scotland, at least not in the central belt. Mainly its just the north west coats and north Western Isles (Outer Hebrides) that speak it fluently. You'll need to ask your Dad what the name of the village was for me :-)

    I've heard Korean, as well as Japanese and Chinese are quite challenging. Are you at the point where you can have a basic conversation yet or still starting out?
    Oh, that's too bad you didn't learn Gaelic! I've always thought it would be cool to know. Korean, Japanese, and Chinese, and maybe a couple more, are the most challenging for an English Language speaker to learn. The opposite is also true (Korean to English, etc.) The reason has to do with the grammar structure, which is 100% opposite of English.

    100%.

    For example, in English if we want to emphasize something, we will place it near the beginning of the sentence. Example "I worked until 5pm yesterday." vs "Yesterday, I worked until 5pm." <--in the second sentence we are emphasizing that it happened yesterday. So we placed it near the beginning of the sentence.

    In Korean, the most important part is at the end. You could basically not listen to the first part of a sentence, tune in at the end, and probably get the gist of it.

    That's how opposite Korean and English is! Everything is the opposite in Korean (English is Noun Verb Object, Korean is Noun Object Verb). Then there are a hundred and one ways to conjugate the verbs. I could go on and on.

    Anyways, I would say I now can have a very basic conversation, and I get maybe 25% to 50% of what is being said. It's a very slow process, though. My motivation is very ESFJ though...I just want to be able to talk to people lol. Most Koreans know some basic English, but you can't have more than a very shallow conversation. I would like to one day be able to talk about many things with them. So we'll see!

    If you could learn a language, what would you be interested in learning?

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    Merry Christmas everyone! I hope you had a great one. &#x1f60a;
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    Happy New Year
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