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This is a discussion on A conniving ESFJ against an INTJ within the ESFJ Forum - The Caregivers forums, part of the SJ's Temperament Forum- The Overseers category; I am sorry to say this in front of all esfj here. @ chelon Fe dom user really has the ...

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    I am sorry to say this in front of all esfj here.
    @chelon Fe dom user really has the uppercut in disarming inf/tert Fi users. That is their natural flair, practiced, tried and true for their whole lifetime. Shall for whatever reason you ever cross their line you will not be spared.

    It is exfj ultimate strength. A man can only admire.
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  2. #52
    INTJ - The Scientists

    Quote Originally Posted by contradictionary View Post
    I am sorry to say this in front of all esfj here.
    @chelon Fe dom user really has the uppercut in disarming inf/tert Fi users. That is their natural flair, practiced, tried and true for their whole lifetime. Shall for whatever reason you ever cross their line you will not be spared.

    It is exfj ultimate strength. A man can only admire.
    He's the one who keeps intertwining our paths.

    Urggh.

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  3. #53

    Quote Originally Posted by chelon View Post
    He's the one who keeps intertwining our paths.

    Urggh.

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    You know he always will.

    Your call.

    Sent sans PC
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    INTJ - The Scientists

    Quote Originally Posted by contradictionary View Post
    You know he always will.

    Your call.

    Sent sans PC
    You're right. I don't know why he keeps on.

    My call though.

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  6. #55

    Quote Originally Posted by chelon View Post
    Yes, because I have known him for more than 2 years. I see how he interacts to everybody.


    He doesn't play the stereotyped ESFJ in real life though. He did already create that awkward situation with me a few years back, pertaining to my original post about him.


    I really do appreciate that from him, I just don't want to be part of his struggle and be used as a dummy for him to decide which life he would choose to take.

    I am sorry, I am dragging the topic with you. I don't mean to put you in a difficult situation.

    I have seen how he expresses his love for his girl on their social media accounts. I just cant let him further on with this, I feel pity for his girl that I allow him to express his suppressed sexuality with me, or the other people he flirts with.
    Fair enough and please don't apologise - I appreciate I don't know this guy the way you do and I am guilty of hoping the best in situations involving people's friendships. Sadly this isn't always logical (even my ISFJ friend tells me off for this haha).

    Flipping the coin, I think you need a brake from this guy - mentally. I know you can't avoid him physically because of work, but outside work, I think meeting someone new could help?
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  7. #56
    INTJ - The Scientists

    Quote Originally Posted by orion83uk View Post
    Fair enough and please don't apologise - I appreciate I don't know this guy the way you do and I am guilty of hoping the best in situations involving people's friendships. Sadly this isn't always logical (even my ISFJ friend tells me off for this haha).

    Flipping the coin, I think you need a brake from this guy - mentally. I know you can't avoid him physically because of work, but outside work, I think meeting someone new could help?
    That's what I'm trying to do to divert my mind.

    Thanks.

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  8. #57
    INTJ - The Scientists

    I thought I'd give an update about this thread. I don't know, I kinda think it would be better having details with this story.

    We went as a group to an out of town trip, well I didn't really expect much from him on this trip considering how he was before and how he is with me in a crowd.

    I'm very happy though that as a friend, he is very dependable. For the whole duration of it he shared his toiletries with me, coz I didn't bring any.

    He still acted detached sometimes, perhaps his way of dismissing issues that might arise if we get too clingy. In relation to that, our hesitation didn't give us a chance to share a bed. Instead, our superior was the one who took the space with him. It's ironic that one fellow gave a feedback that he was expecting that he and I would share a bed, weird but maybe they were thinking our relationship was like that.

    I got paranoid tho coz we were drinking before sleeping and I didn't want that restraint would be affected by it. I kept awake for a couple of hours just to observe. I was put off somehow that everytime he changes position he would make a sound like a gentle moan of relief. It kinda gave an impression of an innuendo to whomever it was supposed to, either to the gay superior he shares the bed with or just wanting to call someone's attention in the room. He did keep his space tho and his body position wasn't inviting.

    Generally he was okay, maybe it help that I didn't expect from him and that I didn't allow him to somehow spur me in acting first by him overtly making a pass on me.

    We went home together after that event, he asked me to ride a taxi with him. We had some small talks, it was obvious that our body language was trying hard to make things not awkward.

    I was surprised when he remarked, you are still fresh no one has touched you ye, he meant a virgin. I know he lost his to his current girl. What makes it awkward is that I always put out green jokes and people always think I'm a fuckboy because of that and the way I project an aura. But I'm not, and I abhor casual sex. I didn't know what made him say that, but it caught me offguard I wasn't able to rebutt it. I just crumpled the receipt in my hand and threw it at his head. He just smiled, avoiding to look at me.

    I got off the taxi, I said a gentle goodbye and take care. He abruptly replied with a kinda grunting sound saying t'care. How passive was that. Haha.

    I'll be leaving my employer for good for I'll be relocating soon. He knows it and usually asks me when. I always give a vague, I'm not yet sure. It's because I don't want him to make a ultimate move to win me back hoping I'll stay or whatever purpose would suit him.
    He has expressed none interest to follow where I'm going so I'll leave it to that.

    He's taking a test as well and I initiated messaging him to encourage and make him feel that I care. I guess by how he replies, he is preoccupied with someone else. He even just seen my last message. Even though it's been hours since he finished his exams. He's still online and seem uninterested chatting with me.

    Anyway, when he comes back from his leave for the exams I'll be slowly detaching my association from him. I guess it would make things easier and avoid separation anxiety - for me atleast.

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