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    INTP - The Thinkers

    Why do people think duality is the ideal relation? I just don't see it. I always thought people were more attractive to their shadow functions aliened perpendicular in the right order.

    http://www.cognitiveprocesses.com/16types/ESFJ.cfm
    http://www.cognitiveprocesses.com/16types/ISFP.cfm
    Last edited by XZ9; 02-10-2015 at 05:30 PM.

  2. #42
    INTP - The Thinkers

    Okay, I can see the appeal for duality. What people want in a romantic relationships is that people are attractive to their to contrasting function. Se is attractive to Si. ESFP's match is either ISTJ or ISFJ's. However, duality takes a different spin. The function that ESFP's desire is the third function for INTP which is Si. In contrast, ESFP's third function is Te. The relationship can be romantic because they both have the function they desire. People don't actually have a problem using their third function. In duality, the relationship is psychology different . ESFP's are life of the party while INTP are analytical and abstract. That is the appeal.

    I think one famous duality relationship is The Hunger Games. Katniss is ISTP. Gale is ENTJ while Peeta is ENFP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Great_Thinker View Post
    Okay, I can see the appeal for duality. What people want in a romantic relationships is that people are attractive to their to contrasting function. Se is attractive to Si. ESFP's match is either ISTJ or ISFJ's. However, duality takes a different spin. The function that ESFP's desire is the third function for INTP which is Si. In contrast, ESFP's third function is Te. The relationship can be romantic because they both have the function they desire. People don't actually have a problem using their third function. In duality, the relationship is psychology different . ESFP's are life of the party while INTP are analytical and abstract. That is the appeal.

    I think one famous duality relationship is The Hunger Games. Katniss is ISTP. Gale is ENTJ while Peeta is ENFP.
    FYI it's ESFP-INTJ, socionics INTp is Ni-Te. Se-Si attraction seems to hold some truth though.

    What do you think about ENTJ-ISFP?

    Te-Ni-Se-Fi
    Fi-Se-Ni-Te

    See the appeal now?

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    I am 29y/o and one of my roommates (21y/o) in the house, that 4 of us share, is an ESFP. I was initially like you, attracted to her exuberance and excitement and cheer leading attitude which is something that is hard for me to express. So it felt good to have someone lead the charge on that front, but once you realize that it isn't just a mood they are in, but a lifestyle, I burned out within like 2 days and started closing my door. The biggest problem that I have between us though is just the shallow nature of everything she does (I really don't intend "shallow" to be taken as a con, it's just polar opposite from me). I am the kind of person that would love to sit by a calm fire at night with a few friends and discuss deep, indeterminable topics, AND... she makes jokes and peaces out to a club or bar/s. And when she first came to the house, all of us roommates went to bars and clubs for the first few nights, and I just stood on a wall or sat at the corner of the bar near the exit, rejecting over and over her insistence to go dance. What we both thrive on are the turn-off's to the other. I am very aware when people are showing genuine interest and I have never seen it from her, even though she insist that everything I do is great and interesting and yada yada :D. I understand now that it's just to keep things light and avoid the awkwardness of admitting she doesn't care. But, that screams of dishonesty which is an insurmountable turn off for any INTP, we have no grey area. So.. yeah, it's difficult.

    (This was not an attempt to achieve duality or anything, lol. I didn't even know I was an INTP at the time. Just expressing that the connection barrier can be a massive challenge.)
    Last edited by GWhitman; 05-17-2015 at 10:24 PM.

  7. #46
    INTP - The Thinkers

    I'm an INTP and I'm deeply attracted to ESFP's. I cannot stand most ESFJ's, though. This concept of "duality" is just complete bullshit and people should stop brainwashing themselves into believing they'll have a perfect or "most ideal" relationship with a certain type simply because someone theorized it.

    Get a fucking brain.


     
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