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    INFJ - The Protectors

    So it seems like with ESTJs...

    ...everything is a case closed scenario. Am I right? (I highly doubt it).



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    INTP - The Thinkers

    one could assume that. On a wider level of situations but might be open on other situation.

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    INFJ - The Protectors

    I don't really want to make assumptions about it though. I want to know!

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    INTP - The Thinkers

    oh sorry *leaves thread*

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    ESTJ - The Guardians

    Quote Originally Posted by Halloween Decor View Post
    So it seems like with ESTJs everything is a case closed scenario. Am I right? (I highly doubt it).
    What do you mean by "a case closed scenario"? Explain.





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    INFJ - The Protectors

    Quote Originally Posted by WickedQueen View Post
    What do you mean by "a case closed scenario"? Explain.



    Everything is cut & dry, black & white, or just easily justified in the eyes of the ESTJ, no theories, but cold hard facts, right?

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    ESTJ - The Guardians

    Quote Originally Posted by Halloween Decor View Post
    Everything is cut & dry,
    Only if you upset us or refused to cooperate.

    black & white, or just easily justified in the eyes of the ESTJ, no theories, but cold hard facts, right?
    Unlike what others think, we do have some considerations before we made a decision. The decision was made base on facts, the common ethics, justice, the effects to other people with similar cases, and the impacts to others in the future.

    People who doesn't understand the process of the decision making will usually hate us for the decision. They think we're being cold hearted. But we think that we're just do what we think is right, not just for ourselves, but also for other people.






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    INFJ - The Protectors

    That clears that for me. Thanks.

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    INFP - The Idealists

    People who doesn't understand the process of the decision making will usually hate us for the decision. They think we're being cold hearted. But we think that we're just do what we think is right, not just for ourselves, but also for other people.
    This is why i often come to blows with my ISTJ dad (even if i love him). It is sometimes hard to make him understand that a solution for him could sometimes not be a solution for someone else. And when he's full of good intentions and forces people to do what should be good for them by taking the initiative for others, he doesn't understand why people get angry at him and become avoidant. And so afterwards he's angry at the whole world.
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    ESTJ - The Guardians

    Quote Originally Posted by Kokos View Post
    This is why i often come to blows with my ISTJ dad (even if i love him). It is sometimes hard to make him understand that a solution for him could sometimes not be a solution for someone else. And when he's full of good intentions and forces people to do what should be good for them by taking the initiative for others, he doesn't understand why people get angry at him and become avoidant. And so afterwards he's angry at the whole world.
    I know what you're talking about. And I agree. ESTJ must learn that they can't save the whole world and not everyone wanted to be saved. We must learn to believe that each person has their own way to survive. And that is hard, I'm telling ya.






     
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