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This is a discussion on 🦋Hortus Personarum🦋 within the General Chat forums, part of the The Cafe Lounge category; Originally Posted by Vixey Kinda get it but curious if you have an example? Well maybe what you said is ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vixey View Post
    Kinda get it but curious if you have an example?
    Well maybe what you said is an example?

    I'm not sure, I tend to take things very seriously and head-on (like, frivolously and weirdly) whereas I feel like you skip over things mentally, maybe it is some dichotomy thing though

    Don't really remember what I was thinking about, I'll mention it again if it comes up again in my mind

    Same with creepy, gross food descriptions like oozing custard and juicy meat but opposite with dinner, I just want to eat, never really talk while eating, so focused on actual food that it feels anti SFJ, I don't include anyone else
    And always so annoyed when people try to make sure all food is done at once so everyone could eat at the same time, or now we don't have official dinner anymore but when I was younger dad had this phase when he tried to make dinner a thing and I remember it just making me very angry.
    Yeah, I need dinner to be an actual thing, stresses me out a lot to have people just eating
    Part of it is that I'm really easily distracted, or I do enjoy eating and I want more of a ritual than just randomly...putting food in my mouth, then it feels like wasted food, like by myself I always need to find a particular activity for eating

    Not quite related but remember him being mad at me for not wanting to go cemetery on All Saints' Day, he just had this very weird phase when he tried to make me do So-ish things, wonder if that points to So last, it just seemed stupid to me to go no matter what anyone said, the only thing that convinced me to go was going at nighttime)
    Ohh, that sounds cool though, that's not a thing here))

    But partly relate to food being an excuse for dinner in sense that it's often interchangeable with other things, like the other day I bought something really cool around dinner time and I didn't have to eat dinner because in my mind I already had something for dinner even though it wasn't at all edible.
    not sure that's ever happened to me

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    keep taking earplugs into car by mistake in the morning but my mother takes the car from my work so I don't have them until she comes back so I can't read or do anything

    I used to wonder often if it was type-related not to be able to concentrate when people were making noise, probably not now I think

    really annoyed, can't find anything to do that is well accompanied by music, had great plans to be very accomplished
    Last edited by Dangerose; 11-20-2018 at 05:21 AM.
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    ugh I was really happy once to find this shirt but I only want to wear it once a year (because it has a Thanksgiving theme?) and I've searched all my boxes of clothes and it doesn't exist((((

    which is upsetting because I can't imagine having thrown away but part of me thinks...but did I??

    no idea why people aren't frequenting this thread though, I'm telling so many great stories

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    Got even more money than he said
    Edit: ok realized I deleted the post, basically someone offered double the money and gave me some extra on top of that
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    Lol hate myself for talking so much about these weird Si-ish things but was thinking today, a thing that feels not Si about me, was buying stuff today and I bought some makeup thing , doesn't really matter but basically I got normal one even though they are scented versions and what not, didn't care, and then 10 hours later I realized coconut would have been better because I remembered one song, or even rose because it sounds like something, and this sounds so Si I realize but it's like I'm so disconnected from those things, I forget about them and then remember on a whim that I want to be a girl whose face smells like nice things but I never pay real attention to it, especially from perspective of my own experience, I actually don't give a fuck about how I smell or how things smell to me 99.9% of the time or don't really think with that in mind but then sometimes I get into some kind of Si-ish mindset where I want my life to be infused with rose water and peach lip gloss and covered in flowers and velvet, don't have a better way to put it.


    But it's hard to explain why it feels SO distinctly not Si, it's like my understanding of scents, textures and similar is limited to a couple of images I have in mind and feels separate from everything else, at the same time it can feel like I think so much about very obvious things.

    Don't quote.
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  5. #515

    Quote Originally Posted by Nissa Nissa View Post
    yesterday I was late to dinner so my family were watching some baking show, sat down and immediately the people on the show started talking about how such and such a custard was oozing, and other things, it was so disgusting and I was obliged to leave

    makes me feel really not-Si

    Not just HOW MUCH I hate hearing people talking about food (guess that could be Si too) but also, never feel like my dad for example realizes how little I care about food (this is ironic because I care about food way too much), but when I come to eat with my family I am there because I want the event, not the food

    or maybe just so > sp priority, hard to explain from this story too, but he always focuses really materially on the food and for me the food is just the reason for having dinner
    I'm also grossed out by how some people describe food, or maybe other sensations too. Or people chewing with their mouth open so I can hear the weird smacking sounds...ick. Can't really think of other specific examples right now...but, I sometimes feel an unpleasant, visceral chill or shiver from that stuff, like being suddenly unsettled by awareness of my body.

    I also hate how my hands feel after I wash them, what I'm guessing people mean by 'squeaky clean', but it feels something like nails on a chalkboard for me, so I always use lotion afterwards.

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    Lately I've been getting, like, mildly lightheaded when I'm tired? Might be a mix of not sleeping well with some dehydration, plus focusing on a screen for too long...but I only just started noticing it, and I try to drink more water, so...I'm guessing being too focused when I'm doing certain things on the computer has a lot to do with it... makes my mind foggier. Annoying. Guess I should take more breaks from technology to rest my brain. Lol.
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  6. #516

    @Vixey I honestly wonder if that could be Ni in a way, I mean I think about it for myself (it can feel more Ne-ish for me and yours is more effectively Si-imitating if it is imitating, in scoopy sexy way, makes me think of role Si??) that I often have these concepts of things instead of the thing, I do it so...head-on and blatantly that it feels more connected to an extroverted function I literally write down on some paper 'coconut is tropical and magical' (not the perfect words for coconut) and I always associate it with some sort of trope in my mind and I don't think it's Si, it could seem like Si to hear about it but it's like a ghost's attempt at Si

    can feel Ni-ish for me too because I want to be like Rosewater Girl if I've settled on rosewater or something, Ni filtered through Ne but I think Ni can be like that, don't think it always has to be mind-labyrinth crypto-theological whatever, doesn't make sense as a function if it does

    If that makes sense?

    was going to add, main thing about ESTP that seems wrong for you is Te demonstrative

    Quote Originally Posted by Lunar Lamp View Post
    I'm also grossed out by how some people describe food, or maybe other sensations too. Or people chewing with their mouth open so I can hear the weird smacking sounds...ick. Can't really think of other specific examples right now...but, I sometimes feel an unpleasant, visceral chill or shiver from that stuff, like being suddenly unsettled by awareness of my body.
    People who chew with their mouths open should be hung, drawn, and quartered.

    I also hate how my hands feel after I wash them, what I'm guessing people mean by 'squeaky clean', but it feels something like nails on a chalkboard for me, so I always use lotion afterwards.
    Hm, never heard that but now I'm inspired to always use lotion after washing hands, feel like that would impart a lot of beauty to my hands

    Lately I've been getting, like, mildly lightheaded when I'm tired? Might be a mix of not sleeping well with some dehydration, plus focusing on a screen for too long...but I only just started noticing it, and I try to drink more water, so...I'm guessing being too focused when I'm doing certain things on the computer has a lot to do with it... makes my mind foggier. Annoying. Guess I should take more breaks from technology to rest my brain. Lol.
    being too much on the computer can definitely make my head feel...odd

    (getting sick I think, very dehydrated, in a good way though, reminds me of my childhood (I lived in a really dehydrating place))

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    Got to say, my current typing does not feel like that much of a farce as I go about my daily business, keep going along and thinking 'yeah, that's kinda what an ESFJ 5 would do'

    will probably go back to 2 but I keep thinking how almost anyone who knows me in real life would be a lot more amused at 2 (especially +extroversion and even feeling) than 5

    not sure to what extent I've been typing the things that only come across on the Internet

    got a hotel room last night because I was too annoyed at my family being awake at a perfectly normal time for people to be awake

    partly I think because I've travelled a lot and it's just second nature for me to get hotel room?

    love it so much, it was just sad that I didn't have more time to enjoy being in a hotel room (just in silly Si making coffee, ironing things, and feeling really brand new way)

    but was sad I couldn't take my very large book with me

    so it felt like an ESFJ 5 situation

    haha

    at least, seriously considering 5 fix
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    today was so exhausting
    Last edited by Dangerose; 11-21-2018 at 10:10 PM. Reason: this was not the place for this rant
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  7. #517

    ^Ok, I think I'm 99% NFJ, ESTP is potentially ok but yeah don't know how I feel about demonstrative Te and don't know how ESTPs of the world feel about me being the same type as them.
    Ni thing/role-ish Si thing makes sense to me and there are other things like that, things of all kinds, will try to explain later.

    But also I realized I like to get typed as SFJ every now and then , maybe one of those things?
    Don't quote.




    Also really wish I could randomly get a hotel room.
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    Why do I have this passion for throwing away perfectly good and new things I don't want anymore?
    Just feel the need to get rid of things, like I guess fresh start, not patient enough to sell them and never feels like it's worth it because like the money I spent on them is gone already, just out of the picture, and it's more annoying to have to bring it back than to live without it, and there are things I don't want people to see, or partly like bringing it back would just give me more money I don't know what to do with, really on some level my goal is to run out of all money, maybe terrible, terrible Te or Sp (but doesn't feel bad Sp related because like...I'm self preserving more by simply throwing things away and that money doesn't really affect anything but idk)
    Edit: but I guess I see like 20% of money I have as money I kinda need and 80% as money I'm allowed to literally chew on when I'm bored if I feel like it, think it has to be some type thing.

    Edit: talking about it somehow reasures me of that my logic is very good and I should keep thinking the same way till the day I die, maybe some low Ti thing, like it creates a system out of a bizarre habit or something, not sure how to explain
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    Last edited by Dangerose; 11-24-2018 at 07:42 AM.
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    Hey @Wisteria I was stalking the Gently Honest thread and I liked your post about instincts (you should talk about Enneagram more; you're very sensible about it)

    this is the most reasonable sx/so description I've seen in a while:

    I can tell when people are SX/SO as well. They are very gregarious people who willingly try to connect with everyone, but I can tell they have a few people who are more significant to them and they try to present themselves attractively (especially if they're an image type). They come off as having a poor sense of boundaries, but are very approachable and not as socially selective and reserved as SX/SP types.
    not sure if I come across this way, I think it could apply (except that I'm not that gregarious)

    I tend to try to connect with everyone in part to cover (?) for who I really want to connect with but I feel like it's always obvious anyways

    (or my guide for action is extreme democracy but I'm not sure how effective it is, don't necessarily want it to be effective either...I don't just mean trying to hide crushes or whatever, but I'm too stupid to explain right now)

    I genuinely think I'm one of the most approachable people in existence, not sure it actually comes through, but everyone has to know there's no need to be intimidated by me

    (Wisteria I'm just meandering mentally, don't feel you have to respond, just wanted to tag you since it was your thing)
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