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    Curse of Apathy

    Apathy (not from google or any kind of source), is a state in which the person involved lacks motivation and interest in tasks, things, or life. Apathy can have many sources, such as emotional trauma, depression, personality imbalance, etc. My question to you, have you ever been apathetic or shown apathy in any area of life? Have you been indifferent towards a situation or a person or anything for the matter? Indifference is a good synonym to apathy. If you have experienced such state, what did you do to get past it and how ? (To speak of myself, I've shown a state of apathy towards life for many years now, and it continues to this day, nothing in life ever sparks interest in me anymore, and I'm not depressed, but I have been in the past). My apathy was probably caused by way of life combined with mental health issues, but it has been kept as a state for years, which doesn't change no matter the activity, or circumstance. There is nothing that provokes emotion in me, and I show little reaction to things, I'm bored even when I'm fully stimulated, and I don't see the point or meaning in anything.



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    Quote Originally Posted by alex829 View Post
    Apathy (not from google or any kind of source), is a state in which the person involved lacks motivation and interest in tasks, things, or life.
    There are only three emotions. Fear, anger, and desire. Often apathy is actually not a lack of motivation, but an excess of either fear or calming anger. Misunderstanding that these two MOTIVATIONS are causing apathy explains a lot about why treatment for apathy is often plagued with failure. In other words the person is MOTIVATED not to act.

    Quote Originally Posted by alex829 View Post
    Apathy can have many sources, such as emotional trauma, depression, personality imbalance, etc.
    Yes, but, unless there is damage in those cases, and even if there is, choice is all powerful. Even a slow trickle of water through a hole will destroy a mighty dam. When it seems like nothing is happening, going through the motions with no energy, using a mantra to drum it up within yourself, you can build a flow that will move mountains. It is all choice. You are empowered to change it.

    Quote Originally Posted by alex829 View Post
    My question to you, have you ever been apathetic or shown apathy in any area of life?
    It happens all the time to me. And I must go through all these self motivating choices to get going EVERY SINGLE TIME, and ... I LOVE IT!

    Quote Originally Posted by alex829 View Post
    Have you been indifferent towards a situation or a person or anything for the matter?
    Indifference is normal, actually. It is not not caring. It a calm attitude, a balance. It is proper. That is why apathy is very normal. Overly exuberant people, like motivational coaches, are out of balance and not healthy in that sense, normally. Apathy is fine base to work with. Call it balance instead. Call it potential and readiness. Words and how you use them to yourself are important. In that way the motivational coaches are correct.

    Quote Originally Posted by alex829 View Post
    Indifference is a good synonym to apathy.
    So are calm and balance.

    Quote Originally Posted by alex829 View Post
    If you have experienced such state, what did you do to get past it and how ?
    There are only three emotions, therefore at one level of granularity three paths to motivation.

    1) Fear - You can convince yourself that it is worst NOT to act than it is to act.
    2) Anger - You can demand of yourself that you act and that it will be more calming to act than not to act. This is willpower.
    3) Desire - You can seek worthiness via action. This is longing.

    Letting yourself think is usually a trap that leads to paralysis. Anger demands that thinking stop and action occur. Use your anger. Literally get mad and get going. Work yourself up like a Norse berserker.

    Anger is also responsible for laziness or addiction to calm. This particular apathy is quite hard to address as anger is normally the best emotion to demand of the self. In this case desire is often the best tool to use.

    Be careful of the special case of Nihilism. Nihilism is an immoral feeling that nothing matters and that there is no meaning in being or doing. This is a fear based paralysis and cowardice. In the face of love and the awe of all that meaning the Nihilist shrinks back proclaiming apathy. It is a defense mechanism. Both anger and desire can demand you participate in meaning and life. Use both.

    Quote Originally Posted by alex829 View Post
    (To speak of myself, I've shown a state of apathy towards life for many years now, and it continues to this day, nothing in life ever sparks interest in me anymore, and I'm not depressed, but I have been in the past). My apathy was probably caused by way of life combined with mental health issues, but it has been kept as a state for years, which doesn't change no matter the activity, or circumstance. There is nothing that provokes emotion in me, and I show little reaction to things, I'm bored even when I'm fully stimulated, and I don't see the point or meaning in anything.
    This sounds like fear. It sounds like a paralyzed state that has left you cowering within yourself. Use BETTER language as a start and begin to infuse action. It's true that if you do not choose to believe in this working, it will not work. Belief is powerful and empowering. You have to want to want to want. That is to say, in order to want, you have to want to want. I know that sounds crazy, but that exact number of words was needed. I said exactly what I meant to. You have to want to want to want.

    I hope that helps.

    PS NOTHING gets to you? Not even humor? No favorite teams to cheer for? No causes to work at? Sex?

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    Seems like one of those dysfunctions of the materially privileged (unless it also applies to being alive). People who have to worry about food, shelter, safety, etc. are probably rarely apathetic.
    If you genuinely don't care about shit and want to shake up your routine to change that, try going without something crucial for a while. Like just leave your house/apartment for a couple of days with nothing but the clothes on your back. It may make you feel more alive.
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    Tbh I wouldn't care if I died tomorrow; is that apathy? I don't know.

    But I don't have an overarching goal in life and being aimless is not fun.

    So, what I do to get past it? I just set random goals and doggedly go after them.

    Rinse and repeat.

    Kept me afloat thus far.
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    Quote Originally Posted by alex829 View Post
    Apathy (not from google or any kind of source), is a state in which the person involved lacks motivation and interest in tasks, things, or life. Apathy can have many sources, such as emotional trauma, depression, personality imbalance, etc. My question to you, have you ever been apathetic or shown apathy in any area of life? Have you been indifferent towards a situation or a person or anything for the matter? Indifference is a good synonym to apathy. If you have experienced such state, what did you do to get past it and how ? (To speak of myself, I've shown a state of apathy towards life for many years now, and it continues to this day, nothing in life ever sparks interest in me anymore, and I'm not depressed, but I have been in the past). My apathy was probably caused by way of life combined with mental health issues, but it has been kept as a state for years, which doesn't change no matter the activity, or circumstance. There is nothing that provokes emotion in me, and I show little reaction to things, I'm bored even when I'm fully stimulated, and I don't see the point or meaning in anything.
    I believe what you are describing here is called anhedonia. I experience it almost all the time unless I'm on meds.

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    You have severe clinical depression. Usually I respond with extreme negativity to "apathy" because it usually actually means "distracted and self-absorbed and don't care if people are dying around me" ..but what you describe requires medical attention. Please seek help.

    If you refuse to seek medical help, please consider some sort of spiritual outreach or an extreme life-changing experience. For some modern day people being fully immersed in nature, in wilderness is a life-changing and eye-opening experience for them.

    Good luck.

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    I'm often in a state of apathy and motivate myself with music or chatting to people. During the week I pass time gaming or watching anime. I can't help feeling that everything is just a distraction, but I make an effort to show up and do stuff. Even going to therapy to deal with severe trauma.

    The weekends, then, are what I always word toward.

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    I also feel apathetic alot of the time I have been grappling w this issue. I think maybe a solution is to suffer more give too much of your money to someone who could use it work until your fingers bleed make yourself suffer maybe after that and you stop suffering we will feel something

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    Apathy is a somewhat immature psychological defense mechanism that can some times spiral into a self reinforcing negative feedback-loop. Ultimately it is devaluation, a form of minimization that will lessen perceived pain and experienced trauma.

    Through observation, we may perceive the underlying psychological mechanisms at play, and with this newly gained awareness address the 'apathy inducing' specifics of the given situation.

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    I think apathy may be a natural response to percieved lack of control of your environment some people just realize their not going to achieve their dreams so they lapse into apathy to avoid depression.

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