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This is a discussion on What makes a woman? within the General Psychology forums, part of the Topics of Interest category; Give it another 50 years and nearly all of the bigots who whine about trans people existing will die off ...

  1. #111

    Give it another 50 years and nearly all of the bigots who whine about trans people existing will die off along with their ill-informed opinions.

    It will be seen as ridiculous as people who are against interracial couples.
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  2. #112

    Sex is a reproductive role.
    All sex differences stem from that.

    So the physical or mental characteristics that divide men and women are not in themselves necessarily what defines them, but are just used as fairly reliable external indicators of it.

    I'm not quite sure what could be seen as the most fundamental driver of sex that ultimately does define it. XX is female, XY is male. But XXY? I'd have to say it's the lack of a second X chromosome that makes a male, since the Y chromosome is shorter than the X one, thus expressing the more recessive elements of the X chromosome, which leads to greater extremes which are expressed in things such as a wider spread of IQ scores to either extreme in males. I guess someone who is more into biology could confirm exactly how it works.

    But I do take the stance that sex is a physical reality and not merely perception. I think if you could maybe take a virus and use it to alter the genetics of every cell of your body, and that somehow lead to your body completely re-making itself according to that genetic change (which seems unlikely too, since you've presumably already grown under the influence of certain genes and changing them later wouldn't necessarily reverse that), then it might be legit to claim a sex change. Other than that, I don't think so.

  3. #113

    Your biological sex is most important, followed by your sexuality, followed by whatever you want to call yourself because it's trendy.

    Quote Originally Posted by SpectrumOfThought View Post
    Nothing. We have all internalized patriarchal concepts of sex and gender. Take off the patriarchy glasses, look at the world through the lenses of Feminism, and you will see that we are all the same <3 ;)
    Enjoy the decline.

  4. #114

    Biological essentialism, because treating gender dysphoria properly based on APA standards of care is literally denying someone's sex, and that is, like, the worst thing ever to happen to society. Like, worse than Hitler, gaiz.

    Now if you excuse me, I will creepily fixate on a trans woman's penis and call her a man just because I have hangups that I don't want to admit.

    And if she doesn't want to be called a man, and doesn't reveal her status right when she first meets me because of that (among other reasons), I will call her a liar because I have nothing better to do than to whine about how treating trans people as human is literally oppressing me.
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  5. #115


    I like 'em short, I like 'em tall
    I like 'em big, I like 'em small
    I like 'em with hair, I like 'em bald
    To make a long story short, I like 'em all
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  6. #116

    Quote Originally Posted by johnnyyukon View Post

    I like 'em short, I like 'em tall
    I like 'em big, I like 'em small
    I like 'em with hair, I like 'em bald
    To make a long story short, I like 'em all
    Poetic + !
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  7. #117

    Quote Originally Posted by quinnthequail View Post
    I agree- however there has the be a palpable difference between the two genders otherwise why else would transgenders feel uncomfortable with their original gender?
    Our individual experiences and worldviews are not the only experiences and worldviews that exist!

    Gender dualism (and associated behaviour, roles etc.) is so heavily ingrained in our society, combined with a great deal of human diversity, with much biological overlap, it is almost to be expected that there will be more than a few who identity far more strongly with the opposite gender.

    No single or small list of things "makes a woman".
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