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I think the Y and Z forums should be merged into a new forum called "Millennials".

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#1 ·
I think the Y and Z forums should be merged into a new forum called "Millennials".

Since the mainstream media just calls Gen Z Millennials as well, and blames Millennials for things like the tide pod challenge, we might as well go along with what everyone else in the general public thinks, lol.:tongue:
 
#2 ·
I don't. Millennials begin in 1977 and are more hopeful than Gen Z. Gen Z have revived "no future" from the 1970s Sex Pistols and I don't blame them honestly because Baby Boomers are pieces of shit who won't stop their petty habits even if it means saving humanity from certain death - and Gen Z is so REALISTIC about all of this. They've just given up. I have talked to Gen Z post-left anarchists on Twitter who are just like "we can't stop climate change, we're organizing ourselves for the inevitable collapse of society."

I'm Gen Y/Millenial and what I've seen with some of my peers is a kind of insane optimism. I had this optimism when Bernie was running in 2016 but some Gen Y still have a kind of optimism that is frankly idiotic and it makes me mad. I keep gravitating to younger and younger people (cause I'm on the "old" end of Gen Y) and I find Gen Z shares my realism and bitterness about climate change. Like they know what's happening. They know. So many people my age and older are such oblivious pieces of shit.

And this attitude towards climate change really defines it for me.

Baby Boomers: only care if it doesn't affect me too much, maybe recycle, don't talk to me about anything else

Gen Y: willing to do almost anything (though some still resist animal ag as a main driver) but focus on meaningless bullshit like "let's teach kids" ..yes well let's teach kids, but none of these people will be adults in 12 years when climate change becomes unmanageable you pepperoni pizza eating fuckheads

Gez Z: we're all vegan, everyone is going to die, this is Mad Max Beyond Thunderdome, let's go post-left

Or they've completely given up. I never felt like Gen Y ever gave up. Even the less-concerned phone-obsessed idiots still seem to want to do something, no matter how meaningless or symbolic, they'll at least DO IT

I just think this is a dumb idea, sorry that's my feelings.
 
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I'm opposed to merging the forums, but the PerC definitions of boundaries between generations should be altered.

Millennials begin in 1977
Why so soon? Most statistics use 1982, and I think it should be even later. Unless you use some other theory of generations. The Strauss-Howe definition is coming of age during the crisis era, which begun in 2008 (or maybe 2006). A person born in 1977 was 29 in 2006, that means having "come of age" already. Even a person born in 1982 was 24 in 2006, is this coming of age? So maybe 1986 would the best time to start, since anyone born in 1986 or later experienced being a teenager during the crisis era.

And this attitude towards climate change really defines it for me.

Baby Boomers: only care if it doesn't affect me too much, maybe recycle, don't talk to me about anything else
And it's baby boomers who popularised environmentalism!

BTW, have you forgot gen X ever existed?
 
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I get that, but they really are different. I was waiting for people younger than me to be different, and they served me hot smoking post-left anarchy and trans-twitter.

I was really proud of them for being vegan. I wanted to chase them to the ends of the earth and hold hands with them for being so frequently vegan, but I actually had to have the definition of "work" explained to me by a post-left anarchist, I had to learn it all from them, I studied them closely and lovingly...I'm so loving towards the young people...I always see my rebellious self in them so I can't help it...I take them very seriously...to my credit...I think smart people listen to the young....and what they talked about was their hopes and dreams being crushed by this Trump administration while ours were nurtured by Obama and his Hope....but I was listening to "Shove It" by Santigold while Obama was still in office, I have been an environmentalist for years even before I became a scientist, so I struggled with the mainstream left even as it strived. Only Bernie and Chomsky gave me hope. When those hopes were dashed, I sided with Gen Z.

But I knew I wasn't them. I was like Jackson Browne's "Pretender"/// "started out so young and strong, only to surrender" ...Millennials are averse to surrender. We either exhibited fight at a young age or maintain it despite all rationality. They are 18 years old wearing tee shirts saying "no future." I was listening to "god save the queen" thinking about how stupid I thought that song was 15 years ago, and how much sense it makes to me now with the state of things...they call her not a human being, and that's how I feel about Trump, and so do these teens who couldn't even vote then. One of my friends who was a Bernie delegate was literally 17 at the DNC in 2016.

I take this stuff VERY seriously.
 
#8 ·
I get you, because we have some things in common. I was born in 1999 and don't really know if I'm generation y or z. But baby boomers also have common issues with the generation x, and the x with the y, and they still are different. This happens because the clasification is so abstract. A lot of people in a lot of years, so they mix in between.
 
#9 · (Edited)
I knew you meant it as a joke (Millennials are very separate from Gen Z), but I would agree however, with having "cusp" forums....

Between the two generations, the cusp would roughly be from mid-90s borns to early 00s borns.

Oh and by the way, people always define Millennials as "18-34", for some arbitrary reason, which is why the "cutoff" for Millennials and Gen Z is pretty controversial (and, IMO, the hardest to define). As soon as someone born in 2000 reaches 18 (which most have this year), people would still consider them Millennials (which I highly disagree with).
 
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I've never been into the "generations" thinking so I don't know where people draw the lines.

Personally I was born in -91 and the only people I look up to are my grandparents and great-grandparents who lived through the world war and built the prosperity and success my country has today. They are now 70-95 and they experienced poverty and starvation. Many of them DIED for my future and still they never complained but worked hard to build something better.

The only generation I have any HOPE for is the one of my younger siblings that are now aged 12-17, so born after the new millennium.

The people born around the same time as me and leading up to the new millennium frustrate me to no end. Emotional wailing, SJWs and irrational "let's save this entire world by being sad and outraged" mentality instead of doing something for real.
Lazy, spoiled, entitled and whiny wimps is what we are. I'm embarrassed for our sake and I apologize to the world.

Why do I have hope for a generation with their noses stuck in smart phones even more than my own?
Because I've observed they take science more seriously, they know what they want even when they are currently unable to achieve it and when they do have an opportunity they actually put more work in.
They don't care about the political correctness crap that has undermined any real progress and change. They will be the generation that gets us moving again. Up or down, that's their decision.

Note that this view is of northern Europe, I have no idea if the generations are different in other countries and continents.
 
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Gen Y = Millennials.
Gen Z = Selfie stick generation.

Gen Z are just a continuation of the narcissistic and flamboyant behavior that's been encouraged with the rise of social media. So Gen Z has mostly picked up the bad habits of Gen Y, but also possessing a feeling of hopelessness that younger Millennials felt as young adults shortly after the Great Recession.

Unless the current rise of fascism is done away with, Gen Z are likely going to be the least child-rearing generation since the concept of Generations was introduced.

So some similarities but Gen Z are more extreme with the negatives and it's still too early to say what the positives of the generation will be compared to Gen Y.
 
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