I might say from a core Y-er's perspective, they are, even though some mid-late '90s fashion doesn't seem that outdated yet to a certain extent in my opinion. Music-wise, I would say that 1990-1996 are legit old school, or if anything, ancient. I might give 1997-1999 another 5 years or so.
Yes, the 90s are old. To put it this way I am currently an adult, I am by law restricted from nothing but certain electoral positions by my age. In as little as 3 years I could be a practising engineer with a washington accord degree. I was only alive for 3 months of the 90s.
It hit me pretty hard to think about it when I realised that even though everyone in my family has at least one degree, I am studying the highest level of mathematics of anyone in my extended family except my uncle who I will overtake in a matter of months. and yet I was essentially born in the new millennium.
The 90s was long gone by the time I was old enough to even understand culture at a basic level
It's ancient. Even the early 00s feel dated to me. I remember the time I was quarantined at home for a week during the early 00s because of SARS outbreak in my country. All of us kids were just too happy not to go to school.
I regard the 1990s as the first decade of the Information Age. To be more precise, the period from 1991 to 2005 would be a cusp between Industrial and Information Ages, so it's still old-school to some degree. Anything after 2006/7 is fully Information Age: MySpace, iPhones, etc.
1980s are truly old fashioned. Personal computers were a rarity in most countries. The Soviet Union still existed. WW2 veterans wielded considerable political power. People born before WW1 (who remembered the "Constantinian order" of thrones and altars in mainland Europe) remained numerous.
With regard to pop culture, the period I'm most nostalgic for is 2003-5 so I do see 1990s as old-school. I also see 2010s pop culture as old style in a way (compared to the early 2000s) because of the revived 1990s elements!
I regard the 1990s as the first decade of the Information Age. To be more precise, the period from 1991 to 2005 would be a cusp between Industrial and Information Ages, so it's still old-school to some degree. Anything after 2006/7 is fully Information Age: MySpace, iPhones, etc.
1980s are truly old fashioned. Personal computers were a rarity in most countries. The Soviet Union still existed. WW2 veterans wielded considerable political power. People born before WW1 (who remembered the "Constantinian order" of thrones and altars in mainland Europe) remained numerous.
With regard to pop culture, the period I'm most nostalgic for is 2003-5 so I do see 1990s as old-school. I also see 2010s pop culture as old style in a way (compared to the early 2000s) because of the revived 1990s elements!
That's because this decade has been the prime for 90s nostalgia.
I won't be surprised when the 2020s hit and people bring in 2000s decade nostalgia (20-year cycle).
Lol and I'll finally know what people will be referring to (at least in the mid-late part of the decade).
I'm 37 so being at that weird cusp between X and Y gives me a very different feeling for the 90's than those that came before or those who came after.
90's coincided fully between years 10 and 19 for me. That's pretty much the formative age. Too young to care about things like pop culture etc in the early 90's, too deep into teenage rebellion and hormone rages to have very fond memories of the mid 90's and the late 90's are very, very fresh in my mind to the point where sometimes I have trouble imagining that 18 years have passed since the 90's were over.
There also hasn't been that much of a cultural shift over the last 18 years. The most I'd say is that there are more people using similar services to the ones I was already using in the 90's. It seems like this is an information boom, but only if you weren't exposed to it in the 90s because we did have all the same services. Those old enough to be in their teens will remember that our internet wasn't that much different.
That said ... This is probably because by and large I stopped adopting new tech into my life around the year 2011. I've become slower and less excited. I am more into finding things that make my life convenient as opposed to caring about trying every shiny new thing - so the 2010's have been incredibly boring culture-wise for me.
So for me, no --- Old School is mid 80's because I remember a lot of the 80's as well.
I'm 37 so being at that weird cusp between X and Y gives me a very different feeling for the 90's than those that came before or those who came after.
90's coincided fully between years 10 and 19 for me. That's pretty much the formative age. Too young to care about things like pop culture etc in the early 90's, too deep into teenage rebellion and hormone rages to have very fond memories of the mid 90's and the late 90's are very, very fresh in my mind to the point where sometimes I have trouble imagining that 18 years have passed since the 90's were over.
There also hasn't been that much of a cultural shift over the last 18 years. The most I'd say is that there are more people using similar services to the ones I was already using in the 90's. It seems like this is an information boom, but only if you weren't exposed to it in the 90s because we did have all the same services. Those old enough to be in their teens will remember that our internet wasn't that much different.
That said ... This is probably because by and large I stopped adopting new tech into my life around the year 2011. I've become slower and less excited. I am more into finding things that make my life convenient as opposed to caring about trying every shiny new thing - so the 2010's have been incredibly boring culture-wise for me.
So for me, no --- Old School is mid 80's because I remember a lot of the 80's as well.[/QUOTE
The 90s has definitely reached its "old school" status, in a new old school way(old, but not too vintage). I would say 90s nostalgia today is what 70s nostalgia was back in the 90s. I remember as a kid seeing my parents reminisce about their adolescence years of the 70s and thinking that the 70s was so long ago. 70s was very distinctive compared to the 90s. The fashion and music to use for an example of the 70s is vastly different from that of the 90s. But we would be lying to ourselves, if we didn't admit to there being a big cultural shift from the 90s to now because obviously there is. Technology has really shaped our lives dramatically. We didn't have social media, or media streaming services, and the 90s internet was very different from today. Cell phones were a novelty, not a necessity. People still relied on landlines, because that was the norm. There was no Google to look up everything. Remember YellowPages? Yeah, we used Yellow Pages to locate local numbers for businesses,etc. Fashion has changed, but thanks to nostalgia when see the 90s wave influenced in many styles today with a modern twist. The way music sounds is different from that of the 90s. I do think there is some sort of denial when we act as if there hasn't been that much of a change. Radically, in the sense of completely different way of life...nope, but big of enough to notice a sizable change of how we live our life compared to the 90s.
Yes. I was looking at this video a day or two ago and when I saw the cars parked up they were all shiny and stuff whilst I expected them to be old rusty cars. But this was 1996, the car's fucking era.
It's a strange realisation these cars were new someday. They're collector's items now at car meetings...
Yes, the 90s are old school. But I do think they still seem much more modern than the 80s because the pop culture of the 2000s and 2010s was built on what the 90s started. The 80s on the other hand was still largely built on what the 50s and 60s started.
Also, the 90s had the Internet, though usage of it was still uncommon in the early 90s. But just the fact it existed and was available to the public makes the 90s seem pretty 21st century like.
80's to early 90's is old school.
I don't know why other people call 70's , 80's and 90's vintage though. To me, vintage is anything pre-1960's.
90's is more retro, 00's is almost retro.
If you have been on retrojunk ( like I have in the mid-late 00s ), 90s have been retro for about a decade and a half. I would not consider it oldschool until we hit the 2020s ( 2022-2023) or when most of the early-mid 90s babies enters there 30s. .
80s to me are very core oldschool. Seems like influences and nostalgia for this time ( wether you lived it or not ) just does not want to die...
I would say the things "born on the internet" like memes, social media based enterprises and the like quickly evolve, become old, and fade away while commercially produced pop culture; older television companies (CBS, ABC and the like in America), big record labels and such; tend more toward a constant style which is still reminiscent of the early 2000s.
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