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    Defining Gen Y

    I know generation is a tricky, subjective business, and I want to add a disclaimer that I am expressing my educated opinion according to what I have studied, and I am not attempting to "police" the generation forums, as I too had some early questions about Gen X v. Gen Y, and now there appear to be Y/Z issues.

    Characteristics of Gen Y include growing up with more technology than Gen X but not as taken for granted as Z. We grew up with more commercialism and corporate BS and branding than Gen X. We are more likely to have "gold star" syndrome or narcissistic traits.

    Part of the reason for our narcissism is being able to remember a pre-9/11 world where we were given everything, sheltered, and promised as long as we went to college, we could have ANYTHING, then had our entire childhood snatched away from us, leaving us feeling both exceptional and cheated, having to adjust to a more realistic economy and having to pick up the pieces from what we enjoyed in our childhood.

    9/11 is the major political event of Gen Y. It is part of what shaped our psyches, as well as 80s/90s childhoods among affluence and American exceptionalism.

    Gen Z on the other hand has no or unclear memories of 9/11 and can't remember the 20th century and had a childhood in a tougher economy during a time of war when America as an empire was mocked and challenged.



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    By the way, anyone is free to challenge or disagree, but the years set on this forum are fairly agreed upon by marketing and business people (77-94)...however I find loose terms like ambitious, family oriented and tech savvy to be too vague, like astrology, which is why I challenge people for deeper definition.

    I actually like the top Urban Dictionary definition (because we were told we were all going to die) as well as the second one, and these are obviously also loose and subjective. (Note that by today's teens, it meant in 2005).

    Urban Dictionary: generation y

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thalassa View Post
    I know generation is a tricky, subjective business, and I want to add a disclaimer that I am expressing my educated opinion according to what I have studied, and I am not attempting to "police" the generation forums, as I too had some early questions about Gen X v. Gen Y, and now there appear to be Y/Z issues.

    Characteristics of Gen Y include growing up with more technology than Gen X but not as taken for granted as Z. We grew up with more commercialism and corporate BS and branding than Gen X. We are more likely to have "gold star" syndrome or narcissistic traits.

    Part of the reason for our narcissism is being able to remember a pre-9/11 world where we were given everything, sheltered, and promised as long as we went to college, we could have ANYTHING, then had our entire childhood snatched away from us, leaving us feeling both exceptional and cheated, having to adjust to a more realistic economy and having to pick up the pieces from what we enjoyed in our childhood.

    9/11 is the major political event of Gen Y. It is part of what shaped our psyches, as well as 80s/90s childhoods among affluence and American exceptionalism.

    Gen Z on the other hand has no or unclear memories of 9/11 and can't remember the 20th century and had a childhood in a tougher economy during a time of war when America as an empire was mocked and challenged.
    Yeah this is pretty accurate, the next generation (Gen Z) has no recollection of the 20th century at all, the post 9/11 era is "when they were born". Born in the late '90s?...well you're on the "cusp". Born in say 2005? You're Gen Z...

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    @XcrashX @OcarinaFan96

    Here's what these articles say.

    Urban Dictionary: Generation Z

    Todays teens and children born from 1995-2010. Most of the members of Generation Z either don't remember or vaguely remember key events such as the September 11th terrorist attacks or the invasion of Iraq. Most however have been affected by the current "Great Recession"(2008-present). Unlike Millenials, or Generation Y, Generation Z will grow up in a childhood and teenhood without the luxury of a strong economy. Many compare Generation Z to the Silent Generation who were in between the Greatest Generation and the Baby Boom Generation.

    This definition made sure they included the vaguely part of it so they could include like the 1995-1996 born's who were in Kindergarten & 1st grade at the time 9/11 had happened. Anyways, here's the rest of what this definition says.

    Alternate names for Generation Z include the Homeland Generation or the Homelanders and the Vacant Generation or the Vacants.
    Baby Boomer: Peace man!!!!
    Generation X: Long live Cobain!!!!
    Generation Y/Millenial: Who needs Peace and Grunge when you have Lady Gaga!!!
    Generation Z: I wish I could buy an iPad, but I'm in debt!

    Now here's what the site says for Generation Y
    Urban Dictionary: generation y

    Generation Y (born between 1980-1994) are also called the Echo-boom generation because their parents are Boomers. This is the last generation to remember the 20th century and the time before the fully digital age. Some grew up with no internet, others remember when dial-up was the big thing, before HDTV, before cell phones were commonplace, when CD players were a must have, when basic cable was luxury and when you went to the video store to rent a VHS and remember the days of Super Nintendo and Sega Genesis. The cutoff for Generation Z is not 9/11 as earlier thought, it is the mid 1990s, normally 1994. The last of Generation Y is in high school and no, they do not like Hannah Montana, that is Generation Z. While some of Generation Y is certainly over obsessed with social networking and is very narcissistic, it is still the last generation to remember the pre-Youtube/Facebook/Myspace era and to have connection to the 20th century. Early Yers remember the Cold War, good MTV and all Yers remember when kids TV meant something. Their icons include Michael Jordan, Will Smith and our pin-up girl was Pamela Anderson during the Baywatch days.
    When were you born? 1991...ahh, you're Generation Y; remember Sonic for Sega Genesis

    That and Super Mario World!

    What about you?

    "1996"

    You're Generation Z. Do you remember when Yahoo was the #1 search engine?

    "Yahoo? It's Google...and why would anyone like CD's?"

    Educated dishwashers.
    Parents told them to educate theirselves.

    Employers told them to go f*** theirselves.

    Now that's what Generation Y is about!

    Anyways, do y'all agree with these definitions and quotes? I think these aren't cut and dry but these were the first definitions that popped up.

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    Precise date range: 1995-2009
    - Come of Age (turning 18 Years old): 2013 - 2027

    The generation born completely within the technological age, war on terror, and multiculturalism. This generation is the first true global culture as their characteristics and trend is more uniform across the globe as they become the most open minded generation to date.

    The earliest will vaguely remembers the 20th century, little affinity (mental age factor) or no memory of September 11th 2001, and the last golden years of TV animations in the western world, in Asia and elsewhere, Rise in standard of living, exposure to Computer and Internet and grow up in the reduction in moral, traditional values.

    Comparable to grandparents Silent Generations and parents, Generation X. As of 2010 however, Generation Z culture are rising, they are predicted to be more cautious, more conservative and connected than ever with everyone around the globe. Despite the trend of them conforming to the Postmodernism counterculture or "spoiled culture". Generation Z's awareness will certainly derived them from the former generation mindset. They will help shape the fragile 21st century (Though not pioneer them like Gen Y) into a new understanding and approach of the global society.

    Internet MEME!!!!, Youtube, Facebook, YOLO, Viral Videos, global warming, Ben 10, teen pregnancy, The 99% Movement, Gangnam Style, President Barack Obama, Iphones, Ipad, Samsung Galaxy, HTC, Global Financial Crisis, Twitter, loss of traditional culture, some SWAG or fag shit, Kpop, Jpop, Generation Z

    Note: These measurements are cross referenced considerations mental development age and memories, significant events, and culture conditioning, regardless of their affinity towards former culture interest or attitude

    I have to admit, what I have in bold in very true.

    However, what I have in red I find very hypocritical.

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    Gen Z on the other hand has no or unclear memories of 9/11 and can't remember the 20th century and had a childhood in a tougher economy during a time of war when America as an empire was mocked and challenged.
    The economy might have been tough in the US, but not everywhere. The 2000s were a decade of economic prosperity in the UK, and the 1990s were a decade of economic hardship for Scandinavia.

    Just saying - there's more to the world than America. Many of your experiences are unfamiliar to me.

    I also disagree that the span of Generation Y is universally agreed upon. Most resources I see set the start of Generation Y as being 1980 or 1981, while a few start it as late as 1984 and as early as 1976.

    1994 is usually seen as the last year of Generation Y, but I think that's because it is chronologically 'tidy' as opposed to there being some noticeable gap between people born in 1994 and people born in 1995, when experience with both would tell you that there isn't. It's like the Baby Boomer generation ending in 1964, but I doubt most people born after 1960 affiliate with the Baby Boomer generation. The Baby Boomer generation is seen as the generation that screwed over the world, but people born from 1961-1964 were too young to have much of an impact.

    Not to mention that a person born in 1981 probably isn't unified with a person born in 1994 in any sense - I mean, that's a 13 year age gap! When a person born in 1981 was 20, a person born in 1994 was only 7. A person born in 1981 will remember 9/11 without a doubt, but a person born in 1994 might not, and were too young to understand it.

    This is why I think it's silly to say that generations begin and end in set years - generational divides are gradual and don't occur overnight. A person born in 1995 might be Generation Z according to most people, but they have qualities of both - and can probably relate to people born on either side. Somebody born in 1981 will have an easy time relating to people born in the late 1970s but also the mid 1980s - but probably not much or at all with people born in the late 80s and early 90s.

    I was born in 1995, and have no problem being part of Generation Z, but I can easily relate to people born in 1992 - but not at all to people born in 2002. I consider my 'age group' to be 1993-1997 - people born in 1993 are two years older, and people born in 1997 two years younger, so I can relate to both quite well -but someone born in 1993 probably doesn't relate to a person born in 1997 much.

    People born in 1994 and 1996 are my peers. I was born in August so I went to school with people born in late 1994, but if I was born 2 weeks later I would have been at school with people born in early 1996. I related to these people very well.
    Last edited by oreocheesecake; 08-14-2015 at 04:43 PM.
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    Most accurate definition to me is the last group born in the 20th century that didn't become adults until the 21st century. Birth range is around 1980-2000...give or take a couple of years.

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    I have to lean towards 1978-1995ish as generation Y. I'm on the far side of the 80s group and have cousin on the mid 90s, the way we see the world is very different. The rise of the internet in mid 1990s to late 90s changed the landscape of the world. Those born of 1995 would never have known pre-internet.

    Plus, to me I can remember the world as a different place growing up, there was a wall (sometimes real, sometimes just a dotted line on a map) down the center of Europe. The fall of the wall was life changing. My younger cousins have no idea of life before communism fell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mqg96 View Post
    Precise date range: 1995-2009
    - Come of Age (turning 18 Years old): 2013 - 2027

    The generation born completely within the technological age, war on terror, and multiculturalism. This generation is the first true global culture as their characteristics and trend is more uniform across the globe as they become the most open minded generation to date.

    The earliest will vaguely remembers the 20th century, little affinity (mental age factor) or no memory of September 11th 2001, and the last golden years of TV animations in the western world, in Asia and elsewhere, Rise in standard of living, exposure to Computer and Internet and grow up in the reduction in moral, traditional values.

    Comparable to grandparents Silent Generations and parents, Generation X. As of 2010 however, Generation Z culture are rising, they are predicted to be more cautious, more conservative and connected than ever with everyone around the globe. Despite the trend of them conforming to the Postmodernism counterculture or "spoiled culture". Generation Z's awareness will certainly derived them from the former generation mindset. They will help shape the fragile 21st century (Though not pioneer them like Gen Y) into a new understanding and approach of the global society.

    Internet MEME!!!!, Youtube, Facebook, YOLO, Viral Videos, global warming, Ben 10, teen pregnancy, The 99% Movement, Gangnam Style, President Barack Obama, Iphones, Ipad, Samsung Galaxy, HTC, Global Financial Crisis, Twitter, loss of traditional culture, some SWAG or fag shit, Kpop, Jpop, Generation Z

    Note: These measurements are cross referenced considerations mental development age and memories, significant events, and culture conditioning, regardless of their affinity towards former culture interest or attitude

    I have to admit, what I have in bold in very true.

    However, what I have in red I find very hypocritical.
    Quote Originally Posted by mqg96 View Post
    @XcrashX @OcarinaFan96

    Here's what these articles say.

    Urban Dictionary: Generation Z

    Todays teens and children born from 1995-2010. Most of the members of Generation Z either don't remember or vaguely remember key events such as the September 11th terrorist attacks or the invasion of Iraq. Most however have been affected by the current "Great Recession"(2008-present). Unlike Millenials, or Generation Y, Generation Z will grow up in a childhood and teenhood without the luxury of a strong economy. Many compare Generation Z to the Silent Generation who were in between the Greatest Generation and the Baby Boom Generation.

    This definition made sure they included the vaguely part of it so they could include like the 1995-1996 born's who were in Kindergarten & 1st grade at the time 9/11 had happened. Anyways, here's the rest of what this definition says.

    Alternate names for Generation Z include the Homeland Generation or the Homelanders and the Vacant Generation or the Vacants.
    Baby Boomer: Peace man!!!!
    Generation X: Long live Cobain!!!!
    Generation Y/Millenial: Who needs Peace and Grunge when you have Lady Gaga!!!
    Generation Z: I wish I could buy an iPad, but I'm in debt!

    Now here's what the site says for Generation Y
    Urban Dictionary: generation y

    Generation Y (born between 1980-1994) are also called the Echo-boom generation because their parents are Boomers. This is the last generation to remember the 20th century and the time before the fully digital age. Some grew up with no internet, others remember when dial-up was the big thing, before HDTV, before cell phones were commonplace, when CD players were a must have, when basic cable was luxury and when you went to the video store to rent a VHS and remember the days of Super Nintendo and Sega Genesis. The cutoff for Generation Z is not 9/11 as earlier thought, it is the mid 1990s, normally 1994. The last of Generation Y is in high school and no, they do not like Hannah Montana, that is Generation Z. While some of Generation Y is certainly over obsessed with social networking and is very narcissistic, it is still the last generation to remember the pre-Youtube/Facebook/Myspace era and to have connection to the 20th century. Early Yers remember the Cold War, good MTV and all Yers remember when kids TV meant something. Their icons include Michael Jordan, Will Smith and our pin-up girl was Pamela Anderson during the Baywatch days.
    When were you born? 1991...ahh, you're Generation Y; remember Sonic for Sega Genesis

    That and Super Mario World!

    What about you?

    "1996"

    You're Generation Z. Do you remember when Yahoo was the #1 search engine?

    "Yahoo? It's Google...and why would anyone like CD's?"

    Educated dishwashers.
    Parents told them to educate theirselves.

    Employers told them to go f*** theirselves.

    Now that's what Generation Y is about!

    Anyways, do y'all agree with these definitions and quotes? I think these aren't cut and dry but these were the first definitions that popped up.
    Those sources from Urban Dictionary are from 2009 and 2012, so those are definitely not accurate and outdated. By the time this decade ends, I'm sure 2000 will be considered the last year to be a millennial.

    Some people forget that generations have 2 decades. For example, our generation is the 2000s and today. Although the Z culture is rising, ours is still in full force and it end around 2020. By then, our generation will be between 20 and 40 years old.

    Not only is 9/11 a defining moment, but so is the Iraq war, Obama's presidency, 2008 stock market crash, and the rise of rapid technology.

    I'm going to link articles from today and the last few years about this subject. I've read some and the ending year of being a Y'er and the beginning of Z varies.

    Here Is When Each Generation Begins and Ends, According to Facts - The Atlantic

    Date/Age Range of Baby Boomers, Generation X, and Generation Y » The Echo Boom

    Generation X, Generation Y, Generation Z, and the Baby Boomers

    What is Generation Y? (with pictures)

    Why are the Generation X and Millennial birth years so muddled? | So-Called Millennial

    How Old is Gen Z? | Getting to know Generation Z

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    Meh. I generally see someone on the 30 side of 20 as Gen Y and everyone younger as Gen Z. As for the cultural difference between the two? Hardly any if I'm being honest, except that hateful internet rants about Boomers tend to be written by more Gen Y's than Z's.


     
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