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This is a discussion on Dragon Ball Z within the Guess the type forums, part of the What's my personality type? category; Majin Buu I think is ESFP. Generally taking things at face value and being active in exploring the tangible aspects ...

  1. #351

    Majin Buu I think is ESFP. Generally taking things at face value and being active in exploring the tangible aspects of the world. Generally does not think of the consequences, wanting to liven the moment. He is quite sensitive in his emotions and is generally willing to consider appeals regarding morality as simplistic as he processes it, being willing to listen to Mr Satan without feeling a need to scrutinise his argument like an ESTP might. Upon this, he resorts to never kill again and generally has a strong need to keep to his promises.

    As for enneagram- 7w8-8w7-2w3 (The Free Spirit).
    Constantly looking for fun experiences to pursue in the external world, generally preferring a carefree approach to life and in just wanting their to be satisfied/content- whether that comes in food or combat. He tends to treat life like an entertaining game. Yet tends to lose controls fairly easily when being threatened or insulted, being unafraid to show and react upon aggression. He did not like the idea of being controlled by Babidi, eventually killing him upon being tired of feeling restricted. Buu had no problem engaging with random acts like healing the eyes of a blind boy and upon realising he likes helping people, gives him some carton of milk (albeit through turning someone into it).

    I'm starting to doubt my previous typing of Mr Satan as ESFJ. Is he truly that emotionally attuned to the environment around him? I mean he does show a lot of lower Ne in his worrying but still...

  2. #352

    I'm starting to doubt my previous typing of Mr Satan as ESFJ. Is he truly that emotionally attuned to the environment around him? I mean he does show a lot of lower Ne in his worrying but still...
    So I know alot of people want to prescribe a bunch of the really negative/unhealthy tendencies to one's tertiary function, but I've found that usually the really negative tendencies come out in specifically the inferior, and the tertiary is used more playfully or mischievously. For instance, EXTPs typically use Fe to poke, jab, provoke, and argue with people rather than fearing what others think of them or feeling compelled to comply to social rules. With the ESXJs, I see tertiary Ne come out as playful wit rather than a bunch of worrying. Obviously they can worry like any other type and when they do so it'll probably be in an Ne way, but I find that holds true to anyone with Ne in their stack, no matter the position. Whereas all those with Ni, worry in an Ni way.

    Mr. Satan certainly appears to have Fe so I guess the question is... Is he an EXTP or an EXFJ?
    Last edited by Hunter1611; 07-26-2019 at 04:56 AM.

  3. #353

    Heh.. when a topic goes off the rails and ends up being about Goku: https://www.reddit.com/r/mbti/commen...x_hunter_mbti/

    It feels like all these ENFP proclamations end up going back to Goku though, strangely enough.

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  5. #354

    Quote Originally Posted by Hunter1611 View Post
    Heh.. when a topic goes off the rails and ends up being about Goku: https://www.reddit.com/r/mbti/commen...x_hunter_mbti/

    It feels like all these ENFP proclamations end up going back to Goku though, strangely enough.
    That’s bmuddy120, a user on PerC. They have proclaimed the whole ENFP argument for Goku and Luffy many times. Funny I now think Goku, Luffy and Naruto are all ESFPs.

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    That’s bmuddy120, a user on PerC. They have proclaimed the whole ENFP argument for Goku and Luffy many times. Funny I now think Goku, Luffy and Naruto are all ESFPs.
    Heh, yeah, I mean, I speculate back and forth on Luffy. An argument does exist for him to be an ENFP... Plus, another thing I think about with extroverts is that maybe in some ways they can be more physical, even the intuition doms, simply because extroversion will drive them to interact in the external world. (It seems logical to me) And I think sometimes the tendency is to make any physical action about Se, and to make Ne naturally more cerebral and I don't really agree with either. Luffy could potentially just be a dumb ENFP. BUT, I'm not really interested in discussing Luffy nor am I interested in derailing this thread. When it comes to Goku, however, a good argument for ENFP just doesn't exist. He appears to be about as stereotypical as an ESFP can be. Same with Naruto.

    I just find it amusing that any thread about any "ENFP" protagonist ends up (more often than not) boiling down to an argument over Goku.

    I'm starting to doubt my previous typing of Mr Satan as ESFJ. Is he truly that emotionally attuned to the environment around him? I mean he does show a lot of lower Ne in his worrying but still...
    I had another thought about this. There is a form Fe dom that I have observed that is rather oblivious and self-centered which I've seen people mistake for Fi... Hmm.. how can I make this not sound rambly...
    So, Fe desires validation, but so does Fi, and just like how I mentioned in some earlier conversation with you, both can be fake, but the scenarios are different. Fi users gone wrong will conceive an ideal image of themselves which is inconsistent with reality and present that to the world, and then try to get others to agree with their own self-interpretation. Whereas, Fe users gone wrong tend to draw any possible attention to themselves that they can, and in the process can end being many different people depending on the scenario. That's how they become "fake" in comparison with how I described an Fi user become fake. Fe users like that are frequently not in tune with the social environment beyond how it's directly affecting them. They have this tendency to turn every conversation into a conversation about themselves as a desperate attempt for validation and attention. Mr. Satan definitely has that fake persona that he puts forward, but is it out of idealism? He doesn't really strike that way. I really need to watch more Dragon Ball, but glancing over a wiki page on his personality, he sounds more Fe than Fi... when I'm seeing it mention stuff like generosity, over protectiveness, forgetting at times that he hasn't done all the grand things that he claims (losing himself in the act)....
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  7. #356

    Is there any chance to Piccolo is not an INTJ? Yes he sort of does fit the stereotype of put cold, stoic, calculating tactician who doesn't like people but is he an Ni-dom? I have yet to see people put forth much evidence to prove it aside from assuming it based on the vibe.
    Interesting to look at the portrayal of the younger Piccolo in Dragon Ball back when he strongly identified with King Piccolo. Baring in mind that of course Nail and Kami's influence upon him makes his cognition a bit harder to actually understand.

    I think back to the moment after the Dragon Team were defeated by the androids and Piccolo was insistent that he was still 'evil' and how he was going to take over the world. Why put on that facade I wonder? Perhaps is it is because by making the decision to fuse with Kami, he may have to let go of all the evil inside of him and he feels like he would lose a sense of identity? Piccolo is someone who does contemplate his identity quite a bit. He is insistent to be brought back to Namek whilst in King Kai's world not only to fight and restore Kami/Dragon Balls, but also because of Frieza's slaughter of Namekians. He had barely known his people up till this point but part of him feels drawn towards seeking this part of his identity out.

    I don't even know how this is relevant. He doesn't seem like a Ne-user seemingly focused on one thing at a time and he has that blunt brutality of a Te-user (his methods for training Gohan initially being necessary for the sake of needing his manpower). Alright that does fit INTJ, but where is the Ni-dom ness?

  8. #357

    Quote Originally Posted by Pensive Fine View Post
    Is there any chance to Piccolo is not an INTJ? Yes he sort of does fit the stereotype of put cold, stoic, calculating tactician who doesn't like people but is he an Ni-dom? I have yet to see people put forth much evidence to prove it aside from assuming it based on the vibe.
    Interesting to look at the portrayal of the younger Piccolo in Dragon Ball back when he strongly identified with King Piccolo. Baring in mind that of course Nail and Kami's influence upon him makes his cognition a bit harder to actually understand.

    I think back to the moment after the Dragon Team were defeated by the androids and Piccolo was insistent that he was still 'evil' and how he was going to take over the world. Why put on that facade I wonder? Perhaps is it is because by making the decision to fuse with Kami, he may have to let go of all the evil inside of him and he feels like he would lose a sense of identity? Piccolo is someone who does contemplate his identity quite a bit. He is insistent to be brought back to Namek whilst in King Kai's world not only to fight and restore Kami/Dragon Balls, but also because of Frieza's slaughter of Namekians. He had barely known his people up till this point but part of him feels drawn towards seeking this part of his identity out.

    I don't even know how this is relevant. He doesn't seem like a Ne-user seemingly focused on one thing at a time and he has that blunt brutality of a Te-user (his methods for training Gohan initially being necessary for the sake of needing his manpower). Alright that does fit INTJ, but where is the Ni-dom ness?
    I always saw ISTJ for Piccolo actually. He doesn't appear to have Ni going on. ISTJ fits singular focus just as well with only inferior Ne, and he most certainly has high Te. And I know you might say that he doesn't seem security oriented enough, but it's completely possible for an ISTJ who thinks he's all powerful and undefeatable to appear to act more impulsive and less security oriented simply because he believes himself to be safe. ISTJ seems to fit well in the way he trains Gohan.. watching over him directly the whole time even when Gohan was supposed to be surviving alone. ISTJ also seems to fit in Dragon Ball Super, and he keeps practically raising Goku's children for him with seems more ISTJ to me than INTJ. I also seem to remember him having a very straightforward approach to killing Goku at first.. There was no complex underhanded manipulative plan, just joined a tournament to face off against people individually which ultimately put him up against Goku. Of course, you could pull him inheriting his father's will as Si but that's weak at best, along with him clinging to his desire for revenge for a long time so far as to decide to train Gohan so he could get revenge on Goku through him.
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  9. #358

    So, I'm struggling a bit with Dragon Ball because I feel like the characters are lacking depth... some more than others.
    Usually, I can just kind of watch something and get an impression of a character, which usually leads me into the ball park of what their type is.. which I then work backwards from to produce the logic and examples... Not that you needed to know that, but the point is, usually I can look at a character and have a type spring to mind as my starting point, essentially. I then test out that theory and then compare the character against other potentials... That's not working so well for me in Dragon Ball Z. Some characters maybe, but for instance, Krillin was specifically drawing a blank for me... but after a few minutes of conscious thought, my brain wants to put him in the SFJ spectrum, but I'm seeing a lot of people try to call him an ESFP... and that just doesn't seem quite right.
    Last edited by Hunter1611; 08-19-2019 at 09:00 AM.

  10. #359

    Quote Originally Posted by Hunter1611 View Post
    So, I'm struggling a bit with Dragon Ball because I feel like the characters are lacking depth... some more than others.
    Usually, I can just kind of watch something and get an impression of a character, which usually leads me into the ball park of what their type is.. which I then work backwards from to produce the logic and examples... Not that you needed to know that, but the point is, usually I can look at a character and have a type spring to mind as my starting point, essentially. I then test out that theory and then compare the character against other potentials... That's not working so well for me in Dragon Ball Z. Some characters maybe, but for instance, Krillin was specifically drawing a blank for me... but after a few minutes of conscious thought, my brain wants to put him in the SFJ spectrum, but I'm seeing a lot of people try to call him an ESFP... and that just doesn't seem quite right.
    I had the same sense too. I too felt Krillin was hard to type. Definitely not an ESFP, completely different from Goku. A Fe-user I would say. As a kid he seemed quite different compared to how he was as an adult.


     
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