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    Emm, honestly, I always picked Sunset as a thinker.

    She gained empathy powers and can read people, but very often she's more into giving practical advise rather than emotional conseling.

    For example, in Rainbow Rocks, she told to the girls that if they don't work their issues, the magic of friendship can go on the opposite way rather than being helfyul, which in turn allowed the rainbooms to defeat the dazzlings.

    Inn friendship games, her first approach to Twilight was more into the "what are you doing with the magic" rather than the final heartwarming talk. She was concerned about the damage magic can cause. Now, we must remember than T or F doesn't dictamine more moralist or more logical by itself. Sunset's moral is about "everybody in the school being fine", which while it might be supported by usual F's, moralist and healthy T's pretty much go in the same route, usually in a "needs of many" way, and if Twilight was tampering with magic, then she should do something about it, even if it means not being that nice to this Twilight.

    In Legend Of Everfree, she told Flash to get over Twilight because Sci-Twi was clearly not interested on him. Keep in mind she aimed to explain "Twilight is form another world, this isn't your Twilight" way and didn't sugarcoat anything.

    It worths nothing that living in the human world alone for a time probably forced Sunset to mature some things, and as such she's more in contact with the four funtions, making her hard to pin her down at times. Notice how in-development characters are easier to pin down according the MBTI.

    Sunset's biggest flaw comes into how prone tor age outburst she is. Because she tends to hold herself all what she can during a crisis, she tends to get on her way to act fairly irrational and incredibly destructive to everybody around. It should be noted that very often the biggests flaws of a person usually shines in the inferior sides of ourselves: Sunset is more of a pasionate yet levelheaded and rational being who wants to find the logical ways to solve problems, but under pressure her weaknesses comes from the emotional side of the spectrum, indicating that her Feeling function might not be at the high points, just more developed and well controlled under normal circumstances, and helpful when it comes to use them in the right moment.

    In one short of multiple options from the digital series, her first answer leans more into the practical advise rather than emotional support thing: When Sci-Twi was confused with a text messages full of emojis than Timber sent to her, Sunset's answer was Have you thought about maybe asking for what he means?. She gave first before everything something pragmatical rather than emotional, you don't understand the language? ask to someone who knows it. And when Sci-Twi asked her how to say it in emojis Sunset decided to intervene. It makes Twilight unconfortable at first, but just because she's a T doesn't mean she's outright mean, and when things are cooled down she acts warm.

    We can't also disgregard her time as an alpha bitch in the first movie, where Sunset was pretty much an unhealthy thinker who aimed for power and the recoignance she thought she was being denied too. And given that the more recent stories are trying to reconcile both characterizations, Sunset might still be a thinker after all.

    Is just my opinion, but I often think that people expect F=warm T=cold. Fe is often seen as an empathy functions and all and some people relatate that with Sunset's typing as ENFJ, but that's not a golden rule. For starters, Si makes more sense for loyalty because of the guardian temperament, guided to preserve society in order to keep us alive and all, but the element of loyalty is Rainbow Dash, which is pretty much a dominant Se attention and thrill seeker and stereotypical speaking Se is far more vinculated for YOLO behaviors and personalities, and she HAS shown to deserve the element of loyalty at the same time.
    Last edited by ClownToy The Whiteface; 07-30-2018 at 01:09 PM.

  2. #832
    INFP - The Idealists

    Quote Originally Posted by ClownToy The Whiteface View Post
    Emm, honestly, I always picked Sunset as a thinker.

    She gained empathy powers and can read people, but very often she's more into giving practical advise rather than emotional conseling.

    For example, in Rainbow Rocks, she told to the girls that if they don't work their issues, the magic of friendship can go on the opposite way rather than being helfyul, which in turn allowed the rainbooms to defeat the dazzlings.

    Inn friendship games, her first approach to Twilight was more into the "what are you doing with the magic" rather than the final heartwarming talk. She was concerned about the damage magic can cause. Now, we must remember than T or F doesn't dictamine more moralist or more logical by itself. Sunset's moral is about "everybody in the school being fine", which while it might be supported by usual F's, moralist and healthy T's pretty much go in the same route, usually in a "needs of many" way, and if Twilight was tampering with magic, then she should do something about it, even if it means not being that nice to this Twilight.

    In Legend Of Everfree, she told Flash to get over Twilight because Sci-Twi was clearly not interested on him. Keep in mind she aimed to explain "Twilight is form another world, this isn't your Twilight" way and didn't sugarcoat anything.

    It worths nothing that living in the human world alone for a time probably forced Sunset to mature some things, and as such she's more in contact with the four funtions, making her hard to pin her down at times. Notice how in-development characters are easier to pin down according the MBTI.

    Sunset's biggest flaw comes into how prone tor age outburst she is. Because she tends to hold herself all what she can during a crisis, she tends to get on her way to act fairly irrational and incredibly destructive to everybody around. It should be noted that very often the biggests flaws of a person usually shines in the inferior sides of ourselves: Sunset is more of a pasionate yet levelheaded and rational being who wants to find the logical ways to solve problems, but under pressure her weaknesses comes from the emotional side of the spectrum, indicating that her Feeling function might not be at the high points, just more developed and well controlled under normal circumstances, and helpful when it comes to use them in the right moment.

    In one short of multiple options from the digital series, her first answer leans more into the practical advise rather than emotional support thing: When Sci-Twi was confused with a text messages full of emojis than Timber sent to her, Sunset's answer was Have you thought about maybe asking for what he means?. She gave first before everything something pragmatical rather than emotional, you don't understand the language? ask to someone who knows it. And when Sci-Twi asked her how to say it in emojis Sunset decided to intervene. It makes Twilight unconfortable at first, but just because she's a T doesn't mean she's outright mean, and when things are cooled down she acts warm.

    We can't also disgregard her time as an alpha bitch in the first movie, where Sunset was pretty much an unhealthy thinker who aimed for power and the recoignance she thought she was being denied too. And given that the more recent stories are trying to reconcile both characterizations, Sunset might still be a thinker after all.

    Is just my opinion, but I often think that people expect F=warm T=cold. Fe is often seen as an empathy functions and all and some people relatate that with Sunset's typing as ENFJ, but that's not a golden rule. For starters, Si makes more sense for loyalty because of the guardian temperament, guided to preserve society in order to keep us alive and all, but the element of loyalty is Rainbow Dash, which is pretty much a dominant Se attention and thrill seeker and stereotypical speaking Se is far more vinculated for YOLO behaviors and personalities, and she HAS shown to deserve the element of loyalty at the same time.
    I 100% agree with everything you said. I honestly feel like there is a heavy desire to type warm caring individuals as Fs and insensitive jerks as Ts. When it comes to discerning whether one is a T or F, the best place to start is with the basics. How do they prefer to make their decisions? With Sunset Shimmer, she's very caring and she'd be one of those individuals who may be hard to type on this. I know what this can be like as I have an ENTJ dad who tests extremely close on the F and T dimension as well as an ENFJ sister.

    There is ultimately one easy rule of thumb. How inclined is she to say or do something regardless of someone else's feelings? You gave a great example with the Sci-Twi short. Sunset overruled that Twilight's short term stress of taking her phone would be outweighed by the decision ultimately helping her. ExTJs are extremely more likely to take such a risk, whereas ExFJs do the opposite. An ExFJ is more likely to alter how they act and come across to promote others feelings. It's for this reason ESFJs and ENFJs are superb at hiding their personal feelings.

    But Sunset, well Sunset doesn't do that. She subconsciously expresses her feelings without the intention of doing so. A great example is in the Friendship Games when her snippy remark clues her friends in on her stress. That's not something an ENFJ would do. But even more than that there are no clear examples of Sunset ruling in favor of hiding her feelings or altering her emotional behavior to shape the group atmosphere. She's much more task oriented and cannot help but express how she feels even when she doesn't want to. That's Fi.

    I think Sunset Shimmer is an ENTJ whereas I actually think Twilight (not Sci-Twi) is an INFP. A great comparison between Sunset's dominant Te/inferior Fi and Twilight's dominant Fi/inferior Te is in Friendship Games and Rainbow Rocks. In Friendship Games, Sunset was focused on the task and her struggles stressed her out to the point that it was extremely noticeable. All that said, she wasn't focused on her feelings though and she was more aware and present of things happening around her. After being consoled though, she let the task go to the wayside. Her friends made her realize how stressed she was getting and so she refocused onto the Friendship Games. Twilight, on the other hand, in Rainbow Rocks was faced with her own magic challenge and asked herself at multiple turns "what if I can't do this?" Giving so much thought to your feelings that you drift off the subject at hand during stress is a pretty Fi dominant habit. She was trying to solve the situation, but she was much more aware of her feelings on the issue and repeatedly drifted to that subject. She became so laser focused on the task though that she became blind to everything happening around her. When things got worse, she reflected inward with statements like "How could *I* fail like this?" Sunset had to point out to her what was actually happening and how things weren't working. To review, in Friendship Games, Sunset became blind to her feelings of stress and subconsciously expressed them. In Rainbow Rocks, Twilight became blind to what was going on and over focused on the one task she had ignoring everything else around her.
    Last edited by EquestrianHistorian; 02-23-2019 at 01:16 AM.

  3. #833

    Does anyone still watch this show?

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  5. #834

    Quote Originally Posted by Scoobyscoob View Post
    Does anyone still watch this show?
    This show had me when "The Everfree Forest" was a terrifying place where the seasons changed by themselves. That kind of humor died pretty quickly, though.

    It really started to fall apart for me after the second season, but I kept watching up through the third season and then sporadically after that, hoping it would get better.

  6. #835

    Quote Originally Posted by Squirt View Post
    This show had me when "The Everfree Forest" was a terrifying place where the seasons changed by themselves. That kind of humor died pretty quickly, though.

    It really started to fall apart for me after the second season, but I kept watching up through the third season and then sporadically after that, hoping it would get better.
    I tried watching the first episode because several of my adult friends said they regularly watch it, and would talk about at work. It was surreal but that was the workplace small talk topic at the time.
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  7. #836

    Quote Originally Posted by Scoobyscoob View Post
    I tried watching the first episode because several of my adult friends said they regularly watch it, and would talk about at work. It was surreal but that was the workplace small talk topic at the time.
    Yep.

    I just fuckin miss Bevis & Butthead.
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  8. #837

    Gonna revise my typings from a year ago, new typings in bold
    Twilight- ISTJ
    Fluttershy- ISFP (INFP/ISFJ)
    Rainbow Dash- ESFP
    Pinkie- ExFJ (ESFJ)
    Applejack- ESFJ
    Rarity- ENFJ

    Trixie- ESTP
    Starlight- ExTJ (ENFJ)
    Sunset- xNFJ (ENTJ)
    Discord- ENTP
    Diamond Tiara- ENFJ
    Gilda- ESFP (ESTP)

    Celestia- INFJ
    Luna- INFP
    Cadence- ExFx (ExFJ)
    Shining Armour- ISTx? (ISTJ)

    Lightning Dust- ESTP
    Chrysalis- ENTJ
    Tirek- xNTJ (ESFP)
    Sombra- INTJ (ISTJ)
    Adagio- ENTJ
    Aria- ISTP
    Sonata- ExFP (ESFP)
    Cinch- xSxJ (ESTJ)
    Gloriosa- ENFJ


    Now for some new characters:
    Quibble Pants - INTP
    Sunburst - INTP
    Cosy Glow - ENTJ
    Apple Bloom - ENTP
    Sweetie Belle - xSFJ
    Scotaloo - xSTP
    Babs Seed - ESTP
    Spitfire - ExTJ
    Coco Pommel - ISFJ
    Suri Polomare - ENTJ
    Thorax - INFJ
    Ember - ESxP
    Daring Do - ISTP
    Starswirl - ESTJ?
    Granny Smith - ESFJ
    Grogar - ExTJ
    Silver Spoon - ISFJ

  9. #838

    Anyone going to type the MLP?

  10. #839
    ESTP

    All of the ponies: HOMO

    Sorry I think shit like that is funny. MLP seems pretty rad.


     
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