Do you have a working wake/sleep cycle? What is that like? If not what do you do?

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This is a discussion on Do you have a working wake/sleep cycle? What is that like? If not what do you do? within the Health and Fitness forums, part of the Topics of Interest category; I never have. Granted, it's worked out. Most of my best ideas have been insomnia fueled. It's just strange to ...

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    Do you have a working wake/sleep cycle? What is that like? If not what do you do?

    I never have. Granted, it's worked out. Most of my best ideas have been insomnia fueled. It's just strange to realize that it's not everyone's reality. I took Ambien for a while, but that stuff is crazy. Besides, I take amphetamines instead of coffee in the morning (perscribed, I'm super ADHD) so it just didn't seem like the greatest idea to use amphetamines all day and then knock myself out with Ambien. I stopped taking it when I woke up outside. Haha. I'd also rather treat impulse, distractibility and adhd to have a manageable life than sleep.

    For now, I've just been falling asleep around 1 or 2 am and then waking up around 4 ish for a bit then sleeping again. Sometimes I get great ideas at night, but I've been writing them down instead of trying to continue fleshing out the idea so I can look at it when I wake up and not stay up thinking about it. Idk.

    If you've struggled with insomnia or mania or anything that keeps you awake, how you cope? Does anything help? Do you use melatonin or chamomile or anything stronger? Do you just lie awake? If you've never had insomnia or sleep issues what is that like? Do you have a regular nightly routine or something? Do you stop watching TV, reading, or looking at your phone after a certain time? Etc. Thanks.
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    I've gone through shitload of medication to cope with insomnia, the only ones that work for me are benzos but I have to regulate them (independently) to not build a tolerance and addiction, I monitor my own use. It's the only thing that brings me sleep. When I have pause days, I sleep well, then it gradually slips back into the cycle and hee-o-hoy, here we go again!

    Sometimes I listen to the simple stream of consciousness until I fall asleep. I wish I could perform trepanation on myself to relieve the pressure.

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    I used to suffer from insomnia due to anxiety, about a decade ago. Treating my anxieties ofc is what ultimately cured it, but in the meantime I also discovered that heavy chamomille (3 bags in 1 cup) helped. My psychiatrist 'prescribed' me that when I started antidepressants instead of giving me sleep medication and I think it worked quite well. Just make sure you don't drink a lot of water near bed time coz it's quite diuretic.

    Now I sleep normally with few exceptions and it's so much better. Bad sleep is really bad for metabolism and hormone regulation. Exercise during the day also helps quite a lot, and generally being very active. I wonder what effect would HIIT have to ADHD, if any. Might be worth a try.
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    I have one. It's usually just going to bed and getting up at specific times. Oh, and laying of any computer or related tasks a bit earlier.
    A book helps. :)
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    I used to just sleep/wake whenever I felt like it. Was pretty much a night owl and would sleep all day late into the next night. At one point I was sleeping twice a day. A few hours, get up and do stuff, and naturally just feel tired and go back to sleep for a few hours. Recently I've been trying to hit a few consecutive 90min sleep cycles, but I keep getting distracted. It's like everyday I say Imma go to bed at x time, and then waste time listening to music or reading nothing worthwhile on the internet. It's like, at least if I went through the backlog of teen novels I have I'd at least be half productive!

    It doesn't always work, but I'll just lie in bed(or a comfy recliner) with acoustic earmuffs, eye mask, and try to just not think. Maybe concentrate on my breathing for a bit. Sometimes I get lucky, and just end up waking up from a dream without realizing wtf happened. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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    I've had severe insomnia in the past. I once stayed up for like seven days, which I didn't even know was possible if you weren't being tortured or on meth or something. Granted, it was shortly after a traumatic event which I think exacerbated it, but it had been a problem before too, if not to that extent.

    One of my issues is that I like the ideas I get and how my mind works when I've gone without sleep for a while also, and I've learned how to push myself to that state even when I do get tired. I have mastered the second wind. lol. (and third, fourth, fifth, etc).

    Knowing that about myself, when I feel sleep come I just let it come. If I'm still in jeans with the lights on, whatever, at least I'm sleeping. Routines don't tend to help all that well because I'll think, ah, nope, I gotta change, turn off the lights, etc - and then when I settle back in I'm not tired anymore. It helps to declare myself in for the night and just do that kind of stuff super early so it's done, whenever sleep does decide to happen.

    A huge game changer for me was buying a weighted blanket. Mine's either fifteen or twenty pounds. It was the first thing in years that provided consistently regular sleep. It helped with my anxiety too. (Which it claims to do, and I guess it's not false advertisement, lol - it also claims to help with autism and ADHD). I've become somewhat dependent on it though... to the point of needing to drag it with me every night when I started seeing this new guy. I guess a better solution would have been just buying a separate one to keep at his place, but those things are expensive. It was amazing how it still worked. Having a hard time falling asleep next to someone (like, I maybe sleep an hour, tops), not being in my own bed... these things have made dating difficult for me. I would just stare at the ceiling at first, but then I brought it with me, and boom, I was out.

    I used to do nightcaps, but alcohol can increase insomnia over time. I try not to keep alcohol in the house anymore, and when I drink it's usually a martini lunch or something, unless I'm at a social event.

    CBD oil helps too. You get the relaxation effects of marijuana without the psychoactive ones.
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    I have not had massive problems with insomnia, but find I struggle a bit with it periodically and moreso in the past. What I believe has made it much better, is the following:

    - Exercise/be active every day. I don't necessarily mean vigorous exercise every day, just going for a walk or cleaning the house is being active :) I also want to end the workout at least 2h before bedtime as the body needs to settle and calm down again...

    - Get a decent amount of sunlight and just generally staying outside part of the morning/day. As I'm from Norway, sometimes I've used a daylight lamp during the darkest times of the year. Daylight stimulates serotonin. Poor serotonin levels during the day also means poorer melatonin levels at night.

    - Have nutritious and regular meals throughout the day and only a small meal at night.

    - Meditation, mindful breathing and yoga (to deal with anxiety, changed my life completely)

    - A short list of things I wanna get done throughout the day so that when I go to bed at night I feel like I have achieved what I was supposed to. I am not diagnosed with it, but I believe I have innatentive ADHD, so having simple (but sort of strict) schedules help me stay on track and not try to do everything (read: nothing!) all at once.

    - Regular sleep schedule that deviates with max 2h at weekends and other special occasions (i.e. I get up 7am during weekdays and thus get up at 9am the latest Saturday and Sunday). If for some reason I am up super late, then maybe I will schedule in at least 5h of sleep so I'll be tired at my normal bedtime.

    - A morning routine. I get up at specific time, have a big glass of water, toilet, 5 min yoga/stretches and 10 min meditation)

    - A night routine (i.e. having a cup of chamomile tea in bed while reading a book at the assigned bedtime)

    - Avoid screens 1 hour before bedtime (exception is to call/message my partner)......

    - Get stuff off my chest. Whenever I am with my partner (or calling) we massage each other and generally just have a sweet conversation. If necessary we spend this time getting stuff off our chest (now, if there's serious mental health issues going on, seeing a therapist regularly is definitely the best option) and if you don't have anyone to talk to, you can write in a journal just to get shit out of your mind.

    - Another thing I am getting into the habit of doing is thinking or writing down 3 good things that happenes during the day that I'm happy or grateful for. We often obsess about everything that went wrong or makes us stressed/manic, but thinking of the few lovely moments throughout the day is something we have to teach our mind to do.
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    I did have an issues with being awake at night... that was during my teenage years when anxiety ruled my life. Nowadays I get the right amount of sleep I must say. I work on few things currently so I usually forget that I am tired IF I am. Also I am a slight caffeine addict. ^^; Despite of my heathly sleeping I am not able to wake up early without an alarm. On weekends or day off I wake up randomly without it.

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    I have a hard time falling asleep and while pregnant, I would wake up at random times and then not be able to go back to sleep at all. Now with a baby in my bed I still wake several times a night but we pretty much just roll over, he gets access to milk and we both sleep. It’s one of the main reasons I won’t try and get him to sleep by himself; I’d actually have to sit up fully awake and I doubt I would be able to go back to sleep again within the hour because it takes me such a long time to calm the mind right down.

    White noise or the track Weightless by Marconi union on repeat helps me zone out enough to get to sleep.


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